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Atheism -- Early works to 1800. 2005-03 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2005-04 Aptara Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2005-05 Mona Logarbo Sampled and proofread 2005-05 Mona Logarbo Text and markup reviewed and edited 2005-10 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion The ATHEIST's Objection , That we can have no Idea of GOD , REFUTED . A SERMON Preach'd at the CATHEDRAL-CHURCH of St. Paul , February the 7 th . 1697 / 8. BEING The Second of the LECTURE for that Year , Founded by the Honourable Robert Boyle , Esq By JOHN HARRIS , M. A. and Fellow of the ROYAL-SOCIETY . LONDON , Printed by J. L. for Richard Wilkin , at the King 's - Head in St. Paul's Church-Yard , 1698. PSAL. X. 4. The Wicked , through the Pride of his Countenance , will not seek after God ; neither is God in all his Thoughts . IN these words , I have , in a former Discourse , taken notice of these Three Particulars : I. The General Character or Qualifications of the Person here mentioned , which is , That he is a Wicked Man. II. The Particular Kind of Wickedness , or Origin from whence the Spirit of Atheism and Irreligion doth chiefly proceed , and that is Pride ; The Wicked , through the Pride of his Countenance , &c. III. The great Charge which the Psalmist brings against the Person here spoken of in my Text , viz. Wilful Atheism and Infidelity ; He will not seek after God , neither is God in all his Thoughts . The Two first of these I have already dispatch'd , and therefore shall now proceed to discourse on my Third Head , viz. The great Charge here brought against this Wicked Person , That he will not seek after God ; neither is God in all his Thoughts : or , as it is in the Margin , with good grounds ( as I have before observed ) from the Hebrew , All his Thoughts are , There is no God. Which appears to me to imply a wilful and malicious slighting and contemning of God , and his Laws , and an endeavour to banish the very Thoughts of his Existence out of their Minds . And under this Head , I shall make it my business to enumerate all the pretended Arguments and Objections which I have met with , and are of any weight , against the Being of a God , in general ; and then endeavour to shew how Weak and Inconclusive they are , and how miserable a Support they will prove for Atheism and Infidelity . But first it will be necessary , briefly to clear up one Point , and to obviate one Objection that may be made against this very Attempt of mine , of Refuting and Answering the Atheists Arguments and Objections . It will , I doubt not , be said , That there is not now , nor ever perhaps was in the World , any such Person as a Speculative Atheist , or one that believes , there is no God. It is said , with great assurance , by some , That the Ancient Atheists were only such as declared against the Plurality of Gods , and the Idolatry and Superstition of the Heathen Worship . And we are told by one , very lately , a That he hath travelled many Countries , and could never meet with any Atheists , ( which are few , if any ; ) and all the Noise and Clamour , saith he , is against Castles in the Air. To which I Answer , That nothing can be more plain and clear , than that both Ancient and Modern Writers do give us an account of such Persons as were known and reputed Atheists , by those that were Contemporary with them , and did well understand their Principles and Tenets . I need not insist on Proofs from any of the Ancient Christian Writers ; for 't is sufficient , that Plato , Diogenes Laertius , Plutarch , Cicero , and many others , do acquaint us , that such kind of Men there have been in the World. Tho' I shall particularly produce the Testimony of two Authors , one ancient , and the other , 't is probable , now living , to prove this Point ; and these are , Sextus Empiricus , and he that wrote the Thoughts on the Comet that appeared in the Year 1680. Sextus is express , a That Diagoras Melius , Prodicus Chius , Euemerus , Critias Atheniensis , Theodorus , and many others , were absolute Atheists , and denied that there were any Gods at all . And the French Gentleman b saith the same of most of those mentioned by Sextus , and other Ancient Writers ; and to the number , adds some others of a Modern date : And Mr. Blount saith , c that the Epicureans constantly affirmed , there were no Gods. Now the Evidence of these Authors will , I hope , be allowed , because they seem Well-wishers to the Cause of Infidelity themselves . To these I might add , were it necessary , That Vaninus himself tells us frequently of Atheists that he met with , ( and no one will doubt but that he knew where to find one at any time , ) and he calls Machiavel , expressly , Atheorum facilè Princeps d But indeed , this Assertion of these Gentlemen , That there is no such thing as an Atheist in the World , is like most other things that they advance , Uncertain and Precarious , and often contradicted by what at other times they deliver : for though they are sometimes , and in some Companies , for Reasons that are very obvious , unwilling to take the Title of Atheist on themselves or their Party ; yet they are often ready enough to bestow it on others ; and when it is subservient to their purpose , will insinuate , a That the greatest Lights and Teachers of the Church believe as little of Religion as themselves . But I say also , 2. That 't is one thing to disbelieve the Existence of a God , and another to declare so to the World. And it doth not at all follow , that a Man is not an Atheist , because he doth not openly profess himself to be so , at all times , and in all Companies . There are no Writers so insincere as these kind of Gentlemen ; they are very cautious and tender how they expose themselves to the just Punishment of the Law. Vaninus himself , though he did at last suffer Death madly , for his Infidelity , ( as one b saith of him , that died as madly himself , ) yet is he very cautious and careful , in his Writings , how he renders himself obnoxious to the Censure of the Inquisition ; and he declares , c That he will submit all things to the Judgment of the Roman Church . So a Gentleman of our own Nation , though he endeavours , as effectually as 't is possible , under-hand , to ridicule and undermine Religion ; yet he would fain appear to the World to be a good Christian , and one that hath a mighty Veneration for God and his Laws : but , in the mean time , 't is very easie to discover his true Principles and Design ; for he declares , d That he thinks it much safer to believe as the Church believes , and to pin his Faith always on my Lord of Canterbury 's Sleeve , as he saith he will do , and subscribe to any ridiculous Legend , rather than incurr the Censure of the Popish Clergy ; as he basely calls the Ministers of this most Excellent Protestant Church : for the same laudable Reasons also , he forbears communicating , what he doth , or ought to think Truth , to Mankind , ( as he tells us in many places . ) Now if this be the case with these Men of Honour , that they dare not speak their Minds , nor discover their true Sentiments plainly to the World ; we must by no means conclude over-hastily of their Orthodoxy , by what they say in Discourse at some times , or publish in Print at others : but , in short , if they set up such a Notion of a God , as is essentially inconsistent with the Idea that all Mankind have of such a Being ; if they make him either a Necessary Agent , or a Blind , Idle and Unactive One ; if they divest him of his Providence , or cramp him in his Attributes , as those that call themselves Deists generally do : in a word , if they make him such an Impotent and Careless Being , as either cannot or will not govern the World , give Laws to his People , vindicate his own Honour , and punish and reward Men according to their Actions : 'T is plain , I say , that though in words they may profess to believe and honour a God , yet in reality they deny him , and have no manner of Notion of his true Nature and Perfections . But 't is not the Name only , nor the empty Sound of the word Deity , but the Thing , that is wanting in the World ; 't is the true Knowledge and Belief of this only , that can clear a Man from the imputation of Atheism : If he be not right in this Point , i. e. if he have not such a belief of God , as implies in it a knowledge of the Perfections of his Nature , he may call himself by as fine and fashionable Names as he pleases , and pretend to Deism and Natural Religion ; but in reality he is an Atheist , and so ought to be esteemed by all Mankind ; for as one saith , a that knew very well what an Atheist was , Such are Atheists , as deny God's Providence ; or who restrain it in some particulars , and exclude it in reference to others , as well as those who directly deny the Existence of a Deity : And Vaninus b calls Tully Atheist , on this very account ; and in another place , he saith , c That to deny a Providence , is the same thing as to deny a God. This therefore being returned in Answer to the Objection , That there is no such thing as an Atheist : Let us now go about to examine and consider the Arguments and Objections that are usually brought by Atheistical Men , against the Being of a God. And these , one would think , should be exceeding weighty ones , and no less than direct Demonstrations ; for if they are not such strenuous Proofs as are impossible to be refuted , I 'm sure the Atheist ought to pass for the most senseless and stupid of all Mankind . He slights and despises that inestimable Offer of being Happy for ever ; he runs the risque of being eternally Miserable ; he bids open defiance to the Laws of God and Man ; and he opposes his own Opinion and Judgment , to the sober and considerate Sentiments of the judicious part of Mankind , in all Ages of the World. Now surely , in such a case , he ought to be very sure that he cannot be mistaken ; and to be as demonstratively certain , as of the truth of any Theorem in Euclid , that there is no God , no Moral Good nor Evil , no Revealed Religion , nor any Future State of Rewards and Punishments . But can any Man have the face to pretend to this ? Will not the common sense of all Mankind pronounce this impossible ? and that a Demonstration of the Non-Existence of these things , is not to be obtained ? Can any one be directly assured , that there is not so much as a Possibility that these things should be true ? And if so , then 't is plain , that for any thing he can directly prove to the contrary , the Atheist may be in the wrong , and consequently be Eternally damned and miserable . Now would any one , that can think at all , run this Dreadful Hazard 〈◊〉 much less sure , one that pretends to be a Man of Penetration and Judgment , and to Philosophize above the Vulgar : And yet this every Atheist doth ; and that too on no other Grounds but the Strength of some trifling Objections against , and seeming Absurdities in , the Notion of a God , and Religion , which the Extravagant Wit of wicked Men hath invented and coined to stop the Mouths of those that reprove them , to stifle and bear down the Stings of Conscience , and to gain some pretence to Reason and Principles in their Impious Proceedings . But surely these Persons must know well enough , that 't is a very easie thing to start Objections against the most plain and obvious Truths ; They know also , that in other Cases , themselves think it very unreasonable to disbelieve the truth of a Thing , only because they can't readily answer all the Objections a witty Man may bring against it , and because they cannot solve all the Phoenomena of it . Now , why should not they proceed so in Matters of Religion ? They know that all the great Truths of it , have been demonsrated over and over , by those Learned and Excellent Persons which have written in the Defence of it ; Nay , they know too , that most of their Objections have been already refuted and answered , and that they adhere to a Cause that hath been frequently baffled . They know the weight and importance of the Subject , and that if Religion should at last prove to be true , they must be for ever Miserable : All this , I say , they very well know ; and therefore it looks strangely like an Infatuation upon them , that they will run this Dreadful Hazard only on the Strength of a few Objections , and a bare surmise only that there is no such thing as a God or Religion . These Objections are their only Hold and Pretence that they can stick to and abide by , and what and how Great they are , I shall now proceed to Examine . These I shall take in their Natural Order : And , 1. Consider such Objections as are brought against the Being of a God in General . 2. Such as are alledged against his Attributes and Perfections . 3. Such as are advanced against the Truth and Authority of revealed Religion . The Groundlessness and Inconclusiveness of all which I shall endeavour as clearly as I can to Demonstrate . And First , I shall consider and refute the Objections and Arguments that are brought against the Being of God in General ; and these are ( as far as I can find ) all reducible to these two Heads . It is said , 1. That we can have no Idea of God. 2. That the Notion of a Deity owes its Original , either to the foolish Fears of some Men , or the Crafty Designs of others . I shall at this Time handle the former of these , and Refute the Objections that are brought against the Existence of a Deity , from our not being able ( as they say ) to have any Idea or Notion of him . The Atheist alledges , That whatsoever is Unconceiveable is really nothing at all : that we can have no Idea , or possible Notion of any thing that is not some how or other an Object of our Senses ; for all Knowledge is Sense : and we can only judge of the Existence of things by its Evidence and Testimony . Now God is by Divines said to be Incomprehensible , Infinite , and Invisible ; i. e. Something that 't is impossible to know any thing about ; that is every where , and yet no where ; that sees every thing , and yet no body can see him ; nor can we perceive any thing of him by any other of our Senses : We cannot tell what to make of such an Account as this of a God ; we can have no Phantasm , Idea or Conception of any such Thing ; and therefore we justly conclude , There is no such Being in Nature . And as for that precarious Notion of a God , that is so much talk'd of in the World , 't is nothing but a meer Phantome or Mormo devised and set up by Politick and Designing Men to keep the Rabble in awe , and to scare such Fools as are afraid of their own Shadows . The several Points of this Objection , I shall singly consider ; and , As to the First Part of it , That what we cannot attain any Idea of ; or , That what is absolutely Vnconceiveable , is really nothing at all ; perhaps it may be true , taking it in the most strict and proper sence of the words ; for though I am not of Protagoras's Mind , that Man is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 yet as I think , that That which is absolutely Unconceivable in its own Nature , is not possible to be Existent ; so what is absolutely so to us , we can know nothing at all of , nor reason , nor argue about it ; since there is no doing of this but from our Ideas . But I cannot see how this will be advantageous at all to the Cause of Infidelity : For there is neither any one that asserts ; nor is the Atheist able to prove , that That Being which we call God , is absolutely Unconceiveable . There is a vast difference between a thing 's being Vnconceivable , and Incomprehensible ; between our having no Idea at all of a thing , and our having an Imperfect one ; and between our knowing Nothing at all of a Being , and our comprehending all the Possible Perfections and Excellencies of such a Being . We readily grant that the Immense Nature of God is incomprehensible to our finite Understandings ; but we don't say 't is absolutely Unconceivable , and that we can know nothing at all about it . The common Notion c which all Mankind have of a God , is a sufficient Refutation of this Part of the Objection , as it is also a very good Proof of the real Existence of a Deity ; for if there were no such Being , 't is impossible to conceive how any Idea of him could ever have come into any one's Mind , as I shall hereafter more largely prove . 2. There is implied in this Objection , That we can have no possible Idea , nor Notion of the Existence of any thing that is not the Object of our Senses : And from hence these Sublime Thinkers argue against the Existence of a Deity , and conclude there is no God , because they cannot see him , and because he is not perceivable by any of our Bodily Senses . Thus one of our Modern Atheistical Writers asserts , That the only Evidence we can have of the Existence of any thing , is from Sense . And in another place , a Whatsoever we can conceive ( saith he ) hath been perceived first by Sense , either at once or in Parts , and a Man can have no Thought representing any thing not subject to Sense . And he defines Sense to be Original Knowledge . Which is but the Reverse of what Protagoras , long ago determin'd : for Plato , in his Theaetetus , tells us , That he defined all Knowledge to be Sense . Now , is not this admirable Philosophy ? and worthy of those that pretend to a sublimer pitch of Knowledge than the Vulgar ? There is no Knowledge , say they , but Sense . If so , then , as Protagoras saith , all Sense must be Knowledge ; and consequently , he that sees , hears , smells or feels any thing , must immediately know all that is to be known about it : By seeing the Letters of any Language , or hearing the Words pronounced , a Man or a Beast must needs understand all the Sense and Meaning of it ; and the Philosophick Nature of all Bodies will be perfectly comprehended , as soon as ever they once come within the reach of our Senses . This is , indeed , a good easie method of attaining Learning ; and perhaps very suitable to the Genius of these Gentlemen ! But I cannot account from this Notion , how they come to have so much more Penetration and Knowledge than their Neighbours . Are their Eyes and Ears , Noses and Feeling , so much more accurate than those of the Vulgar ? Yes , doubtless , these are truly Men of Sense ! their Lyncean Eyes can penetrate Mill-stones , and the least silent whisper of Nature moves the Intelligent Drum of their tender Ears ; nothing escapes their Knowledge , but what is undiscoverable by the nicest Sense , and can only be comprehended by Reason . Reason ! an Ignis Fatuus of the Mind , whose uncertain Direction they scorn to follow , while this Light of Nature , Sense , can be their Guide . Nor will it avail them to alledge here , that when they say , we have no Knowledge but what we have from our Senses ; they mean only , that all our Knowledge comes in that way , and not by Innate Idea's : for the Author I have mentioned above , is express , that we can have no thought of any thing not subject to Sense ; that the only Knowledge we have of the Existence of all things , is from Sense ; and that Sense is Original Knowledge , And if so , there can be no such thing as comparing or distinguishing of Idea's in our Mind ; but the simple Idea's of Sensible Objects being impressed upon our Brain , must needs convey to us , by that means , all the Knowledge that we can ever obtain about them , and that as soon too as ever the Objects are perceived . But than this , nothing can be more false and absurd : for 't is plain , that by our bare Sensations of Objects , we know nothing at all of their Natures . Our Mind , indeed , by these Sensations , is vigorously excited to enquire further about them : but this we could by no means do , if Sense were the highest Faculty and Power in our Natures , and we were quite devoid of a Reasoning and Thinking Mind . This , Democritus of old was very well aware of , ( however he comes now to be deserted by the Modern Atheistick Writers , ) for saith he , a There is in us two kinds of Knowledges ; one Dark and Obscure , which is by the Senses ; the other Genuine and Proper , which is by the Mind . And nothing can be more plain , than that we have certain Knowledge of the Existence of many things , which never were , nor perhaps can possibly be the Objects of our Bodily Senses . Protagoras himself saith , b 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 : Take heed that none of the Uninitiated hear you , who are such as think nothing to Exist , but what they can lay hold of with their Hands ; and who will not allow any thing that is Invisible , to have a place among Beings . The Epicurean Atheist must needs grant the Existence of his Atoms , and his Empty Space ; when yet they must be both acknowledged to be no way sensible . Those that hold a Soul or Life in Matter , Plastically diffused through all Parts of the Universe , by which all things are actuated and regulated , cannot deny but this Power is Invisible , and no way the Object of Bodily Sense . Nay , those that assert a Corporeal Deity , and say , that nothing can possibly exist but Body ; must needs own , that something of this Deity , as his Wisdom , Power and Understanding , which is certainly the Chief and most Noble of all his Essence , can no ways fall under our Bodily Senses . Let him that asserts , That what is not the Object of Sense , is really nothing at all ; let him tell me , if he ever saw that Power , Faculty , Understanding or Mind , by which he is enabled to make such a Determination ? That there is such a Power or Mind in him , 't is impossible for him to doubt or deny : for that very doubting and denying , will refute him ; and must convince him , that there must be something in him of a Real Nature , that can thus Think and Consider , Doubt and Deny ; and at last conclude , That there is nothing Actually Existent , but what is Sensible ; For what is really and absolutely Nothing , can never Think , Consider , Doubt or Determine . Now let him call this Mind or Soul of his what he pleases , I do not here consider its Nature ; let it be a Substance distinct from Matter , be it a happy Combination of Animal Spirits ; or the brisk Agitation of any fine and subtile Parts of Matter , 't is all one to our present purpose , it certainly Exists , or is ; and yet is it by no means an Object of Sense . For Animal Spirits , Motion , and the finest and subtilest Parts of Matter are no more sensible to us now , than an Incorporeal Substance is . And as he is thus assured that there is something real in himself , which yet is the Object of none of his Senses ; so he cannot but conclude the same of other Men that are round about him , that they also have a Soul or Mind of the same Nature : for he must know and be satisfied , that they can think , reason , doubt , affirm , deny and determine , as well as himself . Now , if he must grant that there are on this Account many things existent in the World , which do no way fall under the cognisance of our Senses , it will be strangely senseless and ridiculous to argue against the Being of a God from His not being so ; and to deny that there is any such thing , because he cannot see Him with his Bodily Eyes , because he cannot feel Him with his Hands , and hear the Sound of his Voice actually speaking from Heaven . For the Existence of that Divine Being whom no Eye hath seen nor can see , is as plainly demonstrable from Reason and Nature , from his visible Works in the World , and from the inward Sentiments of our unprejudiced Minds , as the Being of our Own and Others Minds is from the power of thinking and reasoning that we find in our selves and them . 3. But Thirdly , 't is objected further , a That we cannot have any Idea of God , and consequently may conclude , There is no such Being ; because he is , by Divines , said to be Incomprehensible and Infinite : ( That is , say they ) something which we can know nothing at all about ; for we cannot have any Phantasm or Conception of any such thing . Thus saith that famous Atheistical Writer , Whatever we know , we learn from our Phantasms ; but there is no Phantasm of Infinite , and therefore no Knowledge or Conception of it . No Man , saith he , can have in his mind an Image of Infinite Power or Time : And there is no Conception or Idea of that which we call Infinite . In another place , he asserts , c That the Attributes of God signifie Nothing true nor false , nor any Opinion of our Brain ; and are not sufficient Premises to inferr Truth , or convince . Falshood . And the Name of God ( he saith ) is used , not to make us Conceive him , but that we may Honour him . And he elsewhere saith , d That those that venture to discourse Philosophically of the Nature of God , or to reason of his Nature from his Attributes , losing their Understanding in the very first attempt , fall from one Inconvenience to another , without end or number , and do only discover their Astonishment and Rusticity . This Bold Writer doth in another place tell us , e That God must not be said to be Finite ; and so being neither Finite nor Infinite , he must be nothing at all : Which is the very same Dilemma that the Sceptick , Sextus Empiricus , f makes use of against a Deity . Another Modern Author of the same stamp , tells us , That he that calls any thing Infinite , doth but , Rei quam non capit attribuere nomen quod non Intelligit ; Give an unintelligible Name to a thing which he doth not understand . All which agrees exactly with what Sextus also saith , in many places of his Book ; and whom these Gentlemen follow pretty closely in most things , without taking any notice at all of him . Now to this , I return ; That as 't is very foolish and precarious , to deny the Existence of a God , because He is not an Object of our Bodily Senses ; so , to conclude , that there is no such Being , from our not being able perfectly to comprehend Him , and to have a true and adequate Idea of him , is equally absurd and unaccountable . For at this rate , we may soon come to deny the Existence of most things in Nature , since there are very many of which we do not adequately comprehend the Nature of , and know all that is to be known about them . There is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , something Incomprehensible in the Nature of all things . Are there not a thousand Beings , which we are sure are truly and actually existent in Nature , the manner of whose Operation and Action we cannot comprehend , and whose Phaenomena we cannot Philosophically explain ? Let any of these Penetrating Gentlemen try their Skill at Gravity , Light , Sound , Magnetism and Electricity , and oblige the World with such an adequate Account of any one of them , as shall make all impartial and curious Men acquiesce in it as satisfactory . Let him clearly shew us how his own Sensations are made ; how the Circulation of the Blood first begins , and continues its Vital Tour round his Body ; how Pestilential and Contagious Diseases first invade and are propagated ; how several Medicines , that may be properly enough call'd Specifick's , operate ; and particularly , how the Cortex Peruvianus cures an Intermitting Fever : In a word , let him tell us how his own Body ( setting aside Accidents ) decays , grows old , and dies , when the same Digestions and Assimulations are made to Day , as were Yesterday , and there is no apparent defect in the Nutriment of any one part of it . He that can account for these , and many other such like things , which are obvious to every one's daily Observation , will certainly approve himself to be a Man of very curious and acute Thought , and of very deep Insight into Nature : and when he hath fully convinced me , that he throughly comprehends the Nature of but these few things , I will allow that he hath some ground to disbelieve the Existence of whatever appears to him Incomprehensible . But if a Person will candidly own , as he that hath any Knowledge and Modesty must do , That there are many things in the History of Nature , of which he cannot meet with a satisfactory Solution and Explication ; he hath certainly no manner of reason to disbelieve the Existence of a God , on the same account ; and to say , There is no such Thing , because his Nature is Incomprehensible to our finite and imperfect Capacities . We cannot , by searching , find out God , nor discover the Almighty unto perfection , Job xi . 7. But again ; There is a vast difference between Apprehending and Comprehending of a thing ; between knowing a thing really to be , and knowing all that is possible to be known about that thing . We cannot indeed perfectly comprehend the Nature of God , because we have shallow , limited , finite , and imperfect Capacities and Faculties ; and the Deity contains in himself all possible Perfection . Every one must grant , that 't is impossible the lesser should contain and comprehend the greater , especially too when the Extent and Fulness of one , Infinitely exceeds the Capacity of the other . From hence therefore to inferr that we can have no Idea nor Knowledge at all of God , is very absurd and incongruous . 'T is a strange Method of Arguing , that I can know nothing at all of a thing , because I can't know every particular that belongs to it ; and he would deservedly be esteemed a Madman , that should deny that there is any such thing as the Sun , because he cannot tell how many Miles he is in Diameter , how far he is from us , and which way he comes by a supply of Matter to continue his enlivening Fire and Heat . When some great and advantageous Revolution is brought about in any Nation ; when the Publick Good is secured , the Laws and Liberties preserved , and Confusion , Bloodshed , and Misery of all Kinds , prevented , by the wise and deep Council and Conduct of Him , or Those that are at the Helm of Affairs : Would it not be gross Stupidity , for a Man to assert , That all this came about by Chance , and that there was no Wisdom nor Conduct , that so opportunely managed all things ; only because he cannot penetrate into all the secret Steps and Methods of it , and see all the hidden Springs , by which it was moved regularly on to its intended Perfection ? There are many things whose Existence 't would be ridiculous to doubt of , whose Nature and Qualities we are very far from being able perfectly to Comprehend and Explain . And amongst the rest , there is nothing but our own Existence , that we can be more assured of , than that there is a God. For as to all Objects of Sense , we may , as Monsieur Des Cartes shews , have some reason to doubt of their actual Existence without us , till we are first satisfied that our Senses do not deceive us : Till we know this , for any thing we can demonstratively prove to the contrary , all sensible Objects may be meer Phantasms and Delusions , and nothing but the internal Configurations of our own Brains , and the result of Imagination and Fancy . But when once we are assured that there is a God , who is perfectly Knowing , Wise , and Good , we shall discover that He can be no Deceiver ; we shall find that 't is not suitable to the Idea we have of Him , that He should delude and cheat us with false Appearances ; and consequently we may well conclude , that he hath appointed our Senses to be proper Judges of their own Objects , and that those Things are actually existing without us , whose Idea's we so plainly perceive in our selves , and which we truly judge to be so . And if we will impartially consult our own Thoughts , and reason clearly from those Idea's that we have within us ; I think , we may most demonstratively be assured of the Existence of a God , and that He is such a most Perfect or Infinite Being , as the Sacred Scriptures and Divines describe Him to be . I will allow that the greatest Certainty that we can have of the Existence of any thing , is of our own Being ; of which , as I have already said , no one can possibly doubt : for whatsoever can Think reason , doubt , will , and determine , must needs be Something , and have a true and real Being . And because we find by this means , that there is certainly something actually existing ; it will plainly follow , that something or other must always have been so : for if ever there was a time when there was Nothing , there never could have been any thing at all : for absolute Nothing could never have done , or produced any thing . Something therefore ( 't is plain ) must have been always , or eternally existing , and which never could have had any beginning . For if it ever had any beginning , tho' never so many Thousands of Millions of Ages ago , it must have then began from meer Nothing , which 't is impossible for any Man to conceive . Now , if we consider our selves , or any things else that are round about us in the world ; we shall plainly find , that neither we nor they , can be this thing that always was existent , and which we have discovered must have been without beginning ; for we know well enough , that it was but a little while ago when we began to be , and that 't is but a short space before we shall die , and cease to be in this World any more . Besides , we find in our selves , and discover in things without us , such Defects , Limitations and Imperfections , as sufficiently must convince us , that neither we nor they can be Independent Beings , nor indeed the Cause of one another's Existence . We must therefore in our Thoughts have recourse to some first Cause or Origin , from whence all things do proceed : And that there must be some first Cause , or some Being , which produced both our selves and the things that are round about us in the World , we cannot but be assured of , for we know , nothing can cause , or make it self to be ; and we see that we cannot make or produce each other ; and we perceive that none of our Forms or Modes of Existence are Indestructible and Eternal ; but that all things are continually flitting and changing : some improving and increasing , while others are decreasing and dying . The common Matter , indeed , of all Bodies will remain , and we do not find it to be perishable , as their forms are ; But then , this we may easily know cannot be the first Cause of all other Things ; since we have no Idea of its being an Active , Intelligent , Wise , and Powerful Being , as that must be ; but the Notion we have of it is , that it is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , purely Passive , and obsequiously Capable of all variety of Forms and Motions ; as I shall hereafter more largely shew . If we farther carefully consider of this Being , that we have thus found must have eternally been or existed ; we shall find also , that it must for ever continue to be for the time to come ; for we cannot imagine , how a Being that hath Eternally existed for the time past , should ever terminate or cease to be for the time to come ; since there is nothing in its self , or in any thing without it , that can possibly be the Cause of its Destruction . Such a Being therefore will be properly Eternal , and necessarily Self-existent , without Beginning or End , or any Possibility of Dying or Ceasing to be . Such a Being also , must on this Account , be the Creator , Author , and Cause of all things : because , nothing can be the Cause of it self ; and therefore they must either be Eternal and Necessarily Self existent , as we are assured they are not ; or else derived from , and produced by this Eternal and Infinite Being . And as the Beings themselves are derived from , and produced by this Eternal and Self existent Being , so must all their Perfections and Qualifications too : for they are indeed the most Noble Things in their Natures . Knowledge therefore , and Wisdom , Thought and Reasoning , and all the excellent Powers and Faculties that are found in any Creatures , must come from the same Power that produced those Beings and Natures in which they are inherent . And if these Excellencies and Perfections are derived from this Necessarily existent Being , they must certainly be in Him in the greatest Perfection : for if they were not in Him , they could not be derived from him ; since 't is unconceivable that any thing can give or communicate to another , either what it hath not it self , or a greater degree of any thing than it is Master of . This Eternal and Self-existent Being therefore must have in it , and that in the utmost Perfection , all the Excellencies that we admire and value in any other things . It must have the Power of doing all things that are possible to be done , and therefore be Almighty ; it must know all things that are possible to be known , and therefore be Omniscient : In a word , it must be All-Wise and Good , Just and True , Merciful and Gracious , and contain in it all possible Excellencies and Perfections . Now this may very well pass for a Description of the Deity ; and 't is such an One as is very Intelligible and Plain to the meanest Capacity that can but think at all . And it gives us such an Idea of God , as we see is easily attainable by an obvious and familiar Chain of Consequences , and which puts our Minds not at all on the wrack to conceive . As for the word Infinite , which is often applied to God , and which these Gentlemen quarrel so much at , and of which they affirm , that it is impossible to have any Conception or Idea ; I say , that it is groundlessly and precariously asserted : and that nothing but the wilful Darkness and Confusion which they have brought upon their own Minds can make it appear Unintelligible , For as the Excellent Dr. Cudworth hath proved the Idea that we have of Infinite , is the same with that which we have of Perfection . And therefore when we say , that God is Infinite in Power , Wisdom or Goodness , we mean by it , that He is most perfectly or compleatly so ; and that he wants nothing which is necessary to render Him most Perfect , and Excellent in that Respect of which we speak of Him. Now a Being that any way is Deficient or Imperfect , and that hath not all the possible Excellencies that are to be had , is Finite , and that in the same proportion as it is defective . Thus , for Instance , those Beings which endure but for a time , which had a Beginning , and will have an end , are finite or imperfect , as to their existence : But GOD , who is , was , and is to come , who is and will be from Everlasting to Everlasting , He is properly said to be Infinite a or Perfect , as to Existence or Duration . For there is no Restriction , Limitation or Imperfection in His Nature , in this respect , as there is in that of all Creatures whatever . A Being whose Power extends to but a few things , is very imperfect or finite in Power ; and if there be any Possible thing that it cannot do , 't is still so far imperfect in Power . But a Being that can do all things that are not contradictory to his Nature , or all possible things , is properly said to be Infinite or Perfect in Power , or Almighty ; so a Being that knows all things possible to be known , is Infinite or Perfect in Knowledge : and the like of any other Attributes or Perfections : In all , the Comparison or Proportion is the same . A Being that wants no degree of Excellency or Perfection is God ; Infinite in Power , Wisdom , Justice , Goodness and Truth . But if a Being want any one , or any degree or proportion of These Things , it is Finite and Imperfect , and that in the same degree or Proportion . Now , where is the Inconceivableness , Confusion , Absurdity , and Nonsence of all This ? is it not as easie to conceive or apprehend that a Being may have in his Nature all possible Perfection , as it is to have an Idea of one that is Imperfect and Deficient ? for how come the Idea of Imperfection into our Mind ? how come we to know that a Thing is Finite , Defective and Limited , unless we have also an Idea or Notion of Infinity or Perfection ? how can we know what is wanting in any Being , unless we have an Idea of it , that it is in some other Being ? Most certain therefore it is , that we may have as true and clear an Idea of the Existence of a God , as of any thing in Nature : b and in Fact it is most notoriously true , that a clear and distinct Notion that there is such a Being , hath and doth still appear in the Minds of all Mankind ; and it is impressed there , I doubt not , by the peculiar Care of that Divine and Merciful Being Himself . And therefore those that assert , that we have not , nor can have any Notion or Idea of a God , nor of his Attributes and Perfections , and that on that Account deny his Existence ; discover such wretched Ignorance as well as Obstinacy , that they are really a Disgrace to Human Nature . For pretending to be over-Wise , they become Fools , they are vain in their Imaginations , and their foolish heart is darkened ; Their vicious Inclinations have debauched their Reason and Understanding : And though God be not far from every one of us , since in Him we live , move , and have our being ; yet their Wickedness and Pride is such , That they will not seek after God , neither is God in all their Thoughts . From which wilful Blindness and Stupidity , may the God of Truth deliver them , by the gracious Illuminations of his Blessed Spirit ; To whom , with our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ , be all Honour and Glory , &c. FINIS . Books printed for Rich. 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Leviathan , p. 208. c Sextus Empericus allows , that there is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , common Notion or Idea of a God , even when he dispu●es against him . Adv. Math. p. 333. a Hob 's Leviath . p. 11. a 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , &c. Vid. Sext. Empiric . adv . Mathem . p. 164. b Sext. Emp. a Hobb 's Leviathan , p. 51. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . Sext. Empir . adv . Math. p. 17. And a little after , he asserts , that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . c Leviath . p. 11 , 190. d Leviath . Par. iv . c. 46. p. 374. e Pag. 150. f Adv. Mathem . p. 333. a 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . Sext. Empir . adv . Math , pag. 150. b Vid. Mr. Lock 's Essay of Vnderstanding . P. IV. Ch. X ,