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Giving an Account of the Condition
Of the Englijh and Irifb ARMY.
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A True Account of all the Papifts in their
Number and Eftates, with Reafons' for declaring them
forfeited, and the feveral Parties amongft them.
With all the Material Circumftances that relate
to that Kingdom.
From the Camp at Dundalke, November 4. 1685*.


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A Letter from Duke Schombergs
Camp, giving an Account of the -
tiun of theEnglifh Army.
SIR,
*W N compliance with your commands, and difchargeof my
I promife, I will acquaint you with the State of our Af~
| fairs on this fide, to which will be added a diftindt cha-
-JL racter and difcrimination of the feveral Parties amongft
the Papifts in this Kingdom, their feveral Interefts, and the
Numbers of them, by which you will be the better enabled to
judge how matters are likely to go here.
As to the firft: part; King James having had particular In¬
formation from the French Traiterous Fugitives (of which you
have heard) of the condition of our Camp, the ftrength, and
weakeft parts of our Trenches, where he might moft eafily fur-
prize Us; and being affured by them that they would feizeone
or two of our Pofts, to facilitate his Entrance into our Camp,
he adventured to command his Army on the 14th of Septem¬
ber, to advance within one or two Miles of Us, that he
might the better execute-his Defign; his Army confided of
about Forty thoufand Men, whereof thirty thoufand were
Armed, the reft had fuch Arms as the Countrey afforded,
Sheansand half Pikes; they intrenched themfelves, and wait¬
ed for the opportunity wherein to furprize Us, but provi¬
dentially the Traitors were difcovered, feized, and fix of the
principal of them Executed; about.Two hundred more are fent
into England, where, I hope, they will be dealt with according
to their deferts. The Iriih being informed that their Plot was
difcovered, their hopes being fruftrated, they did on the fixth of
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An Anfiter to that Seasonable and Important Oueftion, Which
Party of the Rebels may be invited by a
fecond Declaration, or Offer of Pardon, with moft Advantage
to His Majefty, to England in of Charge, and to the
Proteftant Interejl in Ireland.
ALL the Papifts in that Kingdom, as well thofe of Engliili
Extraction, as the Natives, are joyned in this Rebellion;
this being noted, it is expedient (for refolving the Qye-
ftion) to confider the feveral Parties amongft them, and
the diftinCt Intereft of each of thefe Parties, which will open the
matter, fo as it will be ealie to obferve which of them are like-
lieft to be charm'd to any Advantage.
The Popifh Clergy and Lawyers have a right to the Van, for
they are the Contrivers and Incendiaries to Rebellion,fwornVaf-
fals to Rome and France, reftlefs in their Endeavours for Extirpa¬
ting the Proteftant Religion, and regaining the Church Lands:
Should His Majefty offer them any of thofe Lands, to buy them
off, it would be refented worfe tlian the taking away of Mag¬
dalen Colledge, for our Clergy think them little enough for
themfelves, and will not confent that a third or half lliould be
given their Brethren of the Church of Rome, yet lefs than the
whole (nor that) will not fatisfie, for thefe pant after the Lives
as well as the Livings of the Hereticks.
And that this work may be done effectually, both thefe forts
of men are now commiffioned, and actually in Arms: The Bi-
fhops, Priefts, &c. (according to their degrees) are Colonels,
Captains, Lieutenants, and Ring-leaders of the People ; to the
greateft Mifchiefs of their Secular and Regular Clergy, there are
four Titular Arch-Bifhops, 23 Bifhops, 2328 Parifli Priefts.
Next comes the moft numerous part of the Gentry and No¬
bility, who by their Rebellion in 1641. forfeited their Eftates, of
which the Proteftants are feized, thefe having gain'd fome Mili¬
tary Experience in foreign parts, are the flower of the Rebels
Army, their condition cannot be made worfe by any improfpe-
rous event of War; dig they cannot, and rhey will not eafily be
perfwaded to return to beggary, nothing left than a good part,or
the whole of the Eftates they forfeited will be a bait for them.
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As to the common Soldiers, part of them have been dragoon¬
ing the Proteftants in France,the refidue have from their Cradles
lived by Theft and Robbery, are incapable of labour or induflry;.
did thefe and the former fubmit being disbanded, protected and
difperft, they would be more dangerous than now together in
Arms, for they would fill that Kingdom with particular Mur¬
ders, Rapes and Robberies, render the Planting of it dangerous
or impracticable : Thefe cannot be faved to any good ule, nor
tranfported, but they'l run to France, toftrengthen that Enemy
of Mankind.
As to the Nobility and Gentry that were reftored to their
Eftates by Charles the lid's Court of Claims,they were as bloody
Rebels as the former (fuch as theMarquefs of Antrim,&c) yet
had better luck, for thefe were rewarded with better
Eftates for their Murder's, than they loft by their Rebellion: And
good reafon,if they were commiffion'd to that Villany by Charles
the Firft, as they alledge,and Charles the Second feemed to coun¬
tenance in the cafe of that Marquefs, who was proved by many
credible Witnefles to have been in the fir ft contrivance of the
Rebellion in 1641. and to have perpetrated many horrid Mur¬
ders, yet that King commanded his Eftate to be reftored,giving
for reafon that he acted nothing in that matter but by Commit
fion from his Father Charles the Martyr, and by order of his
Mother, purfuant to the Royal Commands (lie received from
his Father.
Of eight millions of Acres profitable Land in Ireland, thefe
Popifli Proprietors pofiefs about three millions, or a little more
than one third of the whole 3 they are neither perfons of Con-
dud nor Intereft 5 'tis certain they have little influence on the
common people; for by their Oppreflions and Exadions, they
have fo far loft their hearts, that where Proteftant Landlords
will receive them, they will not live under thofe of their own
Nation and Religion : 'Tis not there as here in England, where
Tenants have Leafes for Lives, long Terms of years," or fuch
Tenures as lays them under many tyes of Intereft and Obliga¬
tion to venture for, orbefwayed by their Landlords, but the
quite contrary 3 for the Popifli Landlords fett their Lands but
from year to year, that they may the oftner rack their poor
Jenants 3 and hence it is, that tho' thofe people live in the moft
plentiful


plentiful Countrey in Ae world, yet they feed almoft wholly
upon Milk and Potatoes, only now and then, they have a little
Barley or Oaten-bread. ...
This party are as deeply concerned in the Rebellion, difpoihng
and plunder of the Proteftants as the former, fhould any of thefe
fubmit, it will be but fingly, or with very few, probably with
confent of the reft, that they may fave their Eftates, prefer ve an
Intereft for the Papifts in future, that they may give private
Intelligences to their brethren, that England may be at the whole
Expenfe of the War, the difpolled Proteftants of Ireland be left
without reprize for their Lofles, and his Majefty lefs capable to
profecute the War againft France 3 fhould thefe be pardoned,
they will be in a better Condition for a future Rebellion than
yet they have been, being difciplind and now inriched with the
fpoils of the Englijh.
The only party that remains to be fpoken of is theHusbandman
and Labourer wnich conftitutes the body of that people, and are
Nineteen parts of T wenty of the Papifts in Ireland. For the whole
of them, Men, Women and Children? are but one Million, of
which we fuppofe 40 or 50000 in Arms unfit to be pardoned or
tranfported (except to the Eaft-indies) and that thefe fhould
perifh in their Rebellion, and that His Majefty and the wifdom of
the Parliament think good to fpare fuch of the common people
as are not guilty of Murder, the body of that people will remain
intire tho'all the former parties fhould be deftroy'd. Thefe (to
fay the truth of them ) are leaft dangerous, being inthemfelves a
well-naturd people, and may by eafy methods be made ufeful,
if freed from their Clergy and great men, the generality of
them fpeak or under/tend Englijh, which the twentieth man did
not in 1641. They willingly yield their Children for Servants
to Proteftants, and are content they become fuch, their Clergy
have of late been fo extreamly burthenfom to them, that they
are more than ever difpos'd to admit a Reformation, and to
part with them and their Irijh Landlords, and indeed fuch is the
Afcendant that the Prieftshave over the Confciences of that
bigotted people, that it will be difficult and very chargeable, if
not impoffible (whileft thefe remain amongft them ) to keep
them from rebellion on the leaft Forreign incouragement, as 130
years fad experience verifies beyond Contradiction. They natu-
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rally love Learning for their Children, and were there Free
Schools fet up to inftrudt them, they would (without compulfi-
on ) infenfibly become Proteftants. For which great and good
works the prefent Rebellion, and their Redudfion willfurnifti
their Majefties with a fit Opportunity.
All that this part of that Nation can expedt or defire is Pardon
and Indempnity, which His Majefty and both Houfes of Parlia¬
ment, may extend as they think fit, but ifany of the former par¬
ries be comprehended with them, it will render them dangerous
and formidable to the Englifij there.
Thus I have fet down the leveral Parties and Interefts of the
Papifts in Ireland, whereby it plainly appears that there is danger
in fparingany of them, tho3 leaft (according to my fence) in tak¬
ing the Pefants, or (in that Countrey language) the Skulloges
into Protection, as for the Clergy, Lawyers and thofe who loft
their Eftates in 1641. we have no bait for them } if they muft
live, they would be leaft mifchievous in the Eaft-Indks 5 were
they charmed at prefent,thefe Cockatrices would in a little time
bring forth Scorpions; which is true alfo of their landed men.
The Common Souldiers are lefs mifchievous in open hoftili-
ty than under our Protection 5 their Nobility and Gentry who
poflefs about one third of that Kingdom are as deep in guilt and
rebellion as the reft, have little influence on the other parties, the
receiving them to mercy will not fhorten the War, but give
heads to, and ftrengthen the Papifts for the future, Subjedt us to
innumerable mifcbiefsftmpoverilh England by bearing the charge
of the War at prefent, and keeping up a numerous ftanding Ar¬
my in future to keep thefe from rebelling^ all which by their
Forfeitures may be prevented •, the defpoiled Proteftants in part
reprized for their Loflfesy and His Majefty reimbursed, which
money imployed again ^France would expedite the bringing down
of that Chriftian Turk.
Let itnotbe forgotten that King James and the fuppofititious
Prince of Wales pretend Title to the Crown. And that both
their Tides have been recognized by Adtof Parliament in Ire-
Und- That not only the Papifts in thefe three Kingdoms, but a
numerous party that declare for Paflive Obedience and Non-re-
uftarcce long for and- are rnduftrioufly endeavouring his Reftau-
ration, and the deftrudtion of the Proteftant Intereft, the par¬
doning


ties) releafed to them, and all the reft of their grievances re-
dreffed, which only put them into abetter condition to rebel.
For npt with handing all thefe Conceflions, in a few Months after,
( being ftirred up by their Clergy ) they broke out into that bar¬
barous and horrid Rebellion, wherein 150000 Proteftants were
maflacred in cold blood (without any provocation,) befides as .
many more that perilled by Famine and Sword, in the profe-
cation of that Rebellion 5 which is degaonftration to all the
World, that thefe people are not to be retained in obedience
by Immunities, Priviledges and Kindnefs, nor reftrained from
Murders and Maftacres any longer than they are kept under by a
-powerful handing Army.
In 1650. o/iwr being in Ireland the growth ofCharles 2d par¬
ty in Scotland calling him into England, he was put to it how
in a little to divide, and break the power of the Irijh 5 as the beh
expedient he elected to hold a folemn debate for three days
fucceftively, whether that Nation fhould not be wholly ex¬
tirpated, which had the defired Effedl: For on notice thereof
they inhantly were terrified, divided and hampered, and many
iubmitted on condition tp be tranfported-
Let it be remembred that the Tragedy which for three
years paft, and now is acting in Ireland, was intended alfo for
the Theatre of England, God forbid that by weaknefs, good
nature, or out of good husbandry, we fhould be prevailed on to
bring ruin on England alfo, by preferving the Inftruments of
our deftrudlion; If they abide among us, they will certainly
prove goads in our fides, and thorns in our Eyes-
The Lives of the Proteftants in Ireland can never be fecured
whilft thefe remain among the Natives- If (as Sir Walter
Rarvleigh relates) the wife State of Fenice, when their Senate
is met, will not enter on any Confutation, until folemn Pro¬
clamation be made that all Priefts fhall depart (becaufe they
know them pernicious Councilors of State, even amongft
thofe of their own Religion ) why lhould it be thought rigorous,
that we fhould remove fuch Inftruments of mifchief, to fuch
diftanceas may fecure us from dangers by them.
If againft what has been faid, that vulgar Objection be ftarted,
That His Majefty muft deal tenderly with the Papifts at home,
elfehe willpoflibly difobligehisPopilh Allies: Ianfwer, this
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* objection is foppifh, arenotallthe Papifts in thefe Kingdoms
W. in the French Interefc ? Have they not contributed moft to
tiiat Kings prefent Greatnefs and Tyranny ? Are not all the
jrln, an(i feveral of the Englijh Papifts now in Arms againft
; v3 6:; tjieir Majefties ? Therefore the Rooting out or fuppreflion
0f tiiefe is as ferviceable to the Confederates (at prefenc
5®*it- and in future) as the taking of or Bonn, for thefe
are they that direct their Majefties Arms from invading
ffitfflntj. france, yet were the Rebels Eftates in Ireland by the Par-
]lament declared forfeited as in i<$4i. It is demonftrable
that money may be raifed to reimburfe His Majefties pro-
: o!fe;. kakje charge in that War, which imploy'd againft
wiH fave much to this Kingdom, gratify the Confederates,
•Mai and expedite the bringing down that French Tyrant.
«sar. 'tis certain there is a very ancient Prophecy in the Fa-
-jKiiiikjji tiCan at Rome, which faith, That that Mother Church fal-
busitt leth when in Ireland the CatholickFaith is overcome; if it
be duly pondered, there is very much in it; were thefe
three Kingdoms once intire, being free d from the Effeds
k: vi of the Plots and Treafons of the Papifts, Popery would
■'jskfEi foon tumble in the World; 'tis pity we fhould be fo ftu-
ififiii j pid as to fupport that Chair by cherilhing thofe vipers in our
Itptdi bofoms.
; 4 Mns May their Majefties _ that have been the Inftruments of fo
drink much good to thefe Nations, have the Eternal honour to give this
V blow alfo to that Interefti
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Schomberge's Camp, Giving an Account of the
Account of all the Papists in Ireland, their Number
^and the several Parties amongst them. With all the
' j°From the Camp at Dundalke, November 4 1689.
/^ir to lower margin of title-page with some loss to
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^^tiomberg to Ireland. He landed at Bangor with an army of
%ldiers, a mixture of French, Dutch, Danes, Swedes, and
H^red to him after a siege of eight days and he showed
^5_90) was an excellent campaigner, a mercenary of
ranoflt* was a native of Northern Germany, but his mother
l position there, which he was obliged to fortify. Rosen
iglaar)0 men, was posted on the Boyne at Drogheda. Thereby
*Harmy wasting by sickness, shut up in entrenchments, and
Htkkeble and characteristic attempt to vanquish Schomberg by
eoppottij5ciined to engage his enemy, letting Schomberg retreat to
H"; was discovered, their hopes being frustrated, they did on
raCifiMiles ... and posted themselves near the Bogg of Ardee ...
toilet on Us ... " [James] "was compelled to put his Men into
fttiMtia considerable number is sent to Athlone, which is the
[toDliwusand continue Encamped at Ardee".
idfepimet him and surrendered the supreme command. At the
Mt;' the Battle of the Boyne, Schomberg opposed the plan of
^aoas sent round by the bridge of Slane. He commanded the
iiECone of the first to fall.
isBi';:;:vith their swords; and some say that our own men firing
^Kffikflves; however it was, his mortal wound was through his
:;::down and did not speak one word ... We never knew the
uch cases; and since it was in our quarrel that he lost his
-- :e a considerable figure in history whilst the world lasts,
-.id knew men and things beyond most of his time, being
... ways that looked so great in him, that he commanded
ow any fault that he had, except we might be jealous he
•n, he was of a middle stature, well proportioned, fair
. horse the best of any man; he loved constantly to be neat
it". His burial place in Christ Church Cathedral, Dublin
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