Charis kai eirēnē, or, A pacifick discourse of Gods grace and decrees in a letter of full accordance / written to the reverend and most learned Dr. Robert Sanderson by Henry Hammond ... ; to which are annexed the extracts of three letters concerning Gods prescience reconciled with liberty and contingency ; together with two sermons preached before these evil times, the one to the clergy, the other to the citizens of London. Hammond, Henry, 1605-1660. 1660 Approx. 340 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 88 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. Text Creation Partnership, Ann Arbor, MI ; Oxford (UK) : 2006-06 (EEBO-TCP Phase 1). A45400 Wing H519 ESTC R35983 15585262 ocm 15585262 103954 This keyboarded and encoded edition of the work described above is co-owned by the institutions providing financial support to the Early English Books Online Text Creation Partnership. This Phase I text is available for reuse, according to the terms of Creative Commons 0 1.0 Universal . 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Keying and markup guidelines are available at the Text Creation Partnership web site . eng Grace (Theology) Providence and government of God. 2005-12 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2006-01 Apex CoVantage Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2006-03 Judith Siefring Sampled and proofread 2006-03 Judith Siefring Text and markup reviewed and edited 2006-04 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , OR A Pacifick Discourse of Gods GRACE and DECREES : In a Letter , of full Accordance written to the Reverend , and most learned , Dr. Robert Sanderson . By Henry Hammond . D. D. To which are annexed the Extracts of three Letters concerning Gods Prescience reconciled with Liberty and Contingency . Together with two Sermons preached before these evil times , the one to the Clergy , the other to the Citizens of London . LONDON . Printed for R. Royston , at the Angel in IVy-lane , 1660. TO All our BRETHREN Of the Church of ENGLAND . § . 1. IN relation to the Controversies concerning Gods Grace and Decrees , nothing was ever Superior , in my thoughts , to the feare that the great Interests of Religion , Christian practise , and particularly that of Charity , might be obstructed by them . § . 2. It hath long been the Complaint of pious and learned men , ( of the justice whereof , if formerly we had , we cannot now reasonably retain any doubt , ) that the crude and unwary treating of these , and ( from thence derived , ) an hasty premature perswasion of their being in Christ , ( assisted by a beliefe of irrespective Decrees , and Grace irresistible , and no possibility of interrupting their justified estate , ) was apt to contribute to the presumtions , and securities , and finall impenitences of some men , who having most loudly renounced the power , choose yet not to quit the forme of Godliness . § . 3. And for the heares , and uncharitable distempers , which the managing of these controversies particularly have been guilty of , we need not look abroad among the Dominicans and Jesuites , Jansenists and Molinists , for proofes . Our own Region hath not of a long time failed of evidences . The old weapon of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , crying down for carnall men and herericks , Pelagians and Semipelagians , Papists , Socinians , and what not ? ( even rifling the Poets Hell to fetch out Titles for their adversaryes , ) hath never been more nimbly taken up , and vigorously handled , then in these dayes . § . 4. And as if fewell to dissentions were still wanting , it hath been the endeavour of some to suggest this jealousy , and clancularly to infuse it into the minds of men , that they which oppose unconditionate Decrees , &c. ( and pretend to think they effectually serve the ends of Christianity thereby , ) have entertained such vehement dislikes , and aversations to all that Scheme of doctrines , that they retain no charity to the maintainers of them , though they be in other things as constant , obedient sonns of the Church of England , as any ; and when opportunity shall assist their designe , will take care rigorously to fence their communion from them , and whatever the accord be in other doctrines , ( wherein our Church is eminently concerned against the common Adversaries , ) will proceed finally to exterminate and exclude them . § . 5. The Consequences of this perswasion , once imbibed , be it never so causelesse and unprovoked , how noxious and inauspicious they may prove to all that are on either side concerned in them , what leven of bitter zele and animosityes it may cause to ferment in the minds of some , what blasts and improsperityes it may bring on the endeavours of others ; and , betwixt both , what detriment to the true and solid ends , whether of Religion , or Reformation , ( the squaring of our lives according to that other , more sublime , patterne in the mount , Mat. v. the inhaunsed , transcendent , indispensable Lawes of Purity and Peaceableness , ) I shall not here need to set forth , every man's sagacity serving him competently to make this discovery . § . 6. Yet was it not a rationall hope , that the bare disclaiming and renouncing so great a guilt , would be admitted to the purgation of those , against whom it had been suggested and believed . It therefore seemed to me more seasonable to tender an ocular demonstration of the contrary , by bringing my Lamb , or Turtle , ( my offering to the Temple of Peace , ) and really exemplifying the charity and accordance , that may readily be attained between dissenters , when minds prepared with meekness , and love of the Truth , wheresoever they meet with it , can take courage to deny themselves , and so to deposit prejudices , and instead of names and shadowes , to give themselves up to the entire guidance of that light which shines in Scripture . § . 7. In order to this end , it seemed not improper , to offer at this time to publick view the present Sentiments of the Judicious Dr. Sanderson , the Regius Professor of the University of Oxford , ( and the rather , because some manuscript Tables of his former thoughts , and some passages from his Sermons , long since preached , and now republished , have been made use of , to gain authority to those Doctrines which he is now far from owning , ) and briefely and perspicuously to annex unto , and compare with them , those Amicable and Pacifick Reflexions , which may hope to gain the unanimous consent of all true Sons of our Venerable Mother , the Church of England , whose chiefe aime it hath alwayes been to discountenance divisions and fractions , and occasions and fomenters of those , especially singular Doctrines and Novell Articles of Faith , and in a Catholick harmonious charity , to plant Primitive belief , and zele of good workes , and so instead of the empty Forme , the full power of Godlinesse . § . 8. What is so largely added on that one head of Prescience , had some appearance of necessity , to repell a shaft borrowed of late from the Socinian's quiver , who having resolved it impossible for God himself to for esee future Contingents , have given disputers their choice , whether they like best , bluntly to deny God's Prescience , and so , at his cost , maintain their own Liberty , or more piously to maintain Prescience , and then give it the same force of evacuating all Liberty and Contingency , which Predetermination of all events was justly accused to draw after it ; The mistake very dangerous on either side , and the temtation equally fitted for both , if it were not timely obviated . § . 9. That these ensuing Discourses may be effectually successfull to the designed end , of advancing the threefold interest of Truth , and Peace , and Uniforme Christian obedience , that it may supplant the Vineger by the Oyle , the Nitre by the Balsome , and procure , by consent of Litigants , a solemne Supersedeas , if not Conclusion to debates , ( an aversion to these heathen Agones , which afford nothing , but to the combatant blowes , and leaves to the conquerour , ) above all , that it may provide us , by this truce , a greater vacancy for the continued exercises of reall Piety , and engage us to make diligent use of it , ( to adde , as to our Faith vertue , ( or courage , ) so to our Godlinesse brotherly-kindnesse , and to that the yet higher ascent and accomplishment of charity , ) that it may compact us all into that union that most succesfully contributes to our growth , and so possess us of that qualification , to which immarcessible joyes are awarded by our Righteous Judge , shall be continually the prayer , as in the following sheetes it hath been the sincere single endeavour , of Festo Omnium Sanctorum . Your-fellow Labourer H. HAMMOND . A Letter of full Accordance , Written to D. ROBERT SANDERSON , CONCERNING Gods Grace and Decrees . Dear Sir , § . 1. HAving had a sight of the Letter which you sent M. — about the Antiremonstrant Controversies dated Mar. 26. and observing one of the reasons , which you render of your having avoided to appear on that theme , [ A loathness to engage in a quarrell whereof you should never hope to see an end ] I thought my self in some degree qualified to answer this reason of yours , and thereby to do acceptable service to many , who do not think fit that any considerations , which have not real and weighty truth in them , should obstruct that which may be so much to the common good , I mean , your writing and declaring your mind on any profitable subject . § . 2. That which qualifies me more then some others , to evacuate the force of this one reason of yours , and makes me willing to attempt it , though not to appear in opposition to any other passage , that ever you have written , is the true friendship that hath passed between us , and the sweet conversation that for sometime we enjoyed , without any allay or unequableness , sharp word , or unkind , or jealous thought . The remembrance whereof assures me unquestionably , that you and I may engage in this question , as far as either of us shall think profitable , without any the least beginning of a quarrel , and then that will competently be removed from such , as of which you cannot hope to see an end . § . 3. And before I go any farther , I appeal to your own judgement , whether herein I do not at least speak probably , and then whether it were not a misprision , which you are in all reason to deposite , to apprehend such insuperable difficulties or impossibilities at a distance , which when they are prudently approached , and examined , so presently vanish before you . If this one reflection do not convince you , it remains , that the speculation be brought to practice , and exemplified to your senses . § 4. You set out with a mention of some positions , wherein , you say , Divines , though of contrary Judgements , do yet all agree . And then it is not credible that you and I should be so singular , as to differ in them endlesly ; of this number you propose five , 1. That the will of man is free in all his actions . 2. That very many things in the world happen contingently . 3. That God from all eternity foreseeth all , even the most free and contingent events . 4. That whatsoever God foreseeth shall infallibly come to pass . 5 , That sinners are converted by the effectual working of Gods grace . Of each of these you say we have from Scripture , Reason and Experience , as good and ful assurance , as can be desired for the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , or truth of them , that they are so . ] And I who fully subscribe to the undoubted truth of each of the Propositions , and do it also upon the very same three grounds ( of Scripture , Reason , and Experience ) which you mention , need not the intercession of our friendship to render it impossible to give you any the least trouble of so much as explaining your sence in any of these . § . 5. Next , when you resolve , that all the difficulty is about the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ( referring that to no more then three heads ) 1. How to reconcile the certain futurition of what God foreseeth , with the liberty of the rational creature , and the contingency of casual effects , as they proceed from inferiour causes . 2. In what manner or measure the effectual Grace of God cooperateth and concurreth with the free will of man , in the conversion of a sinner . 3. How to cut so even a thread , as to take the whole of what we do amiss to our selves , and leave the whole glory of what we do well to his grace . ] You are again as secure as any amulet can make you , that this resolution of abbreviating the Controversies , and confining them to these few heads , shall never engage you in the least degree of Debate : And then I shall challenge you to feign , how it can remain possible , without contradicting ones self ( which still is not quarrelling with you ) to engage you in any uneasie contention , unless it be on one of these three heads , , and when I have by promise obliged my self , which now I do , not to raise any Dispute , or attempt to ensnare or intangle you in any of these three , you have then nothing to retract but your fears , to which if I tell you , you cannot adhere , discerning a sure and near period to that which you apprehended endless , this is all the victory I shall project , or be capable of in this matter . § . 6. Of the first of these three Difficulties , the reconciling the certain futurition of what God foresees , with the liberty of the rational creature , and the contingency and casual effects , It falls out , that you have in your shorter Letter , dated Ap. 8. given that account , which evidenceth it to be , in your opinion , no invincible difficulty , your words are these , [ That Gods praescience layeth no necessity at all upon any event , but that yet all events , as they are foreseen of God , so shall they certainly and infallibly come to pass , in such sort as they are foreseen , else the knowledge of God should be fallible , which certainty of the event may in some sort be called necessity , to wit , consequentis or ex hypothesi , according as all the most contingent things are necessary , when they actually exist , which is a necessity infinitely distant from that which praedetermination importeth . ] This I take to be so clear an explication of that difficulty , and so solid a determining of the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , the manner of reconciling praescience with contingency , that as I fully consent to it in every part of your period , so I doubt not but the last part alone hath made it as intelligible to any ordinary understanding , as whole books of Philosophers have attempted to do . § . 7. For Gods praescience from all eternity being but the seeing every thing that ever exists , as it is , contingents , as contingents , necessary , as necessary , can neither work any change in the object , by thus seeing it , ( convert a contingent into a necessary ) nor it self be deceived in what it sees , which it must be , if any thing in process of time should be otherwise , then from all eternity God saw it to be . § . 8. I was lately advised with by a Divine , to me unknown , but one that seems to be a man of good learning , about the distinction frequently made in this matter , betwixt inevitably and infallibly , and my answer and replyes to his severall objections , ( because I would demonstrate the perfect accordance betwixt you and me in this , which , within this year or two is put into a very grave attire , and revered as a great difficulty ) I will give you at large by way of Appendage at the end of this Letter , having by hap a copy retained by me , and though it cost you some minutes to survey them , yet I know your patience of all such exercises so well , that I doubt not of your willingness to be thus detained by me , which yet here you shall not , loco non suo . § . 9. Then for the second , In what manner and measure the effectuall Grace of God cooperateth , or concurreth with the free will of man in his conversion ] you seem to me to have given a punctuall account of each part of that also , in the said second Letter , in these words , That God worketh not by his Grace irresistibly , but yet so effectually on those whom he hath ex beneplacito appointed to salvation , in ordering the means , occasions and opportunities with such congruity to that end , as that de facto it is not finally resisted ] Here it is evident your resolution comes home to each terme in the difficulty ; For if effectuall Grace worke not irresistibly , then we see in what manner it cooperates with the free will of man , viz. so as it still remains possible for him to resist it . And if the effectualness of his working consist in ordering the means , occasions , and opportunities with such congruity , &c. then as that stateth the measure of the cooperation ( the onely second part of the difficulty ) and doth it expresly in Bishop Overals way , so this supposeth Grace sufficient to conversion and salvation to be given to those , who are not converted , and saved , quite contrary to the three grand praetensions of Doctor Twisse , the Supralapsarians , and Sublapsarians , and whether it be true or no , is presently freed from all the odious consequences charged on the several Schemes of the Antiremonstrants , and so may safely be granted , or not opposed by them , who yet want evidence of Scripture to establish it , and so this is not likely to bring any uneasie engagement upon you . § . 10. And then as there remains no more difficulties , but the third , so , if you mark it , the grounds are already laid , whereby that is unquestionably resolved , for having granted that God gives sufficient Grace , and yet , when he cooperates most effectually , he doth it not irresistibly , this is the very thred you seek to cut by , so as to devolve the whole blame of all our miscarriages on our selves , and the entire glory and praise of all our 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , good performances , or good successes on his Grace . Were any of us so left or past by , as to be denyed sufficient grace , and yet destined to perish , meerly through want of necessaries ; the whole blame could not rationally fall on our selves , it could not be said of Christs yoke , that it were * easie , or his † Commandment not far from us , the fault that was found with the Mosaical oeconomy , Heb. viii . 8. and which made another ( the Evangelical ) necessary , would still lye against this , viz. that men were not enabled to perform what was required , and yet the non-performance eternally revenged on many of them . But sufficient Grace being tendred by God , and by no default , but their own , proving ineffectuall , the entire blame falls unavoidably on those , who do not thus open to him that knocks , so receive , as to make use of it , but resist , or grieve , or quench what was so mercifully designed , and might have been improved by the humble and diligent receivers unto their greatest advantages . § . 11. On the other side , if our nature being universally corrupted by Adam's fall , all possibility of rising out of that grave of sin be the effect and benefit of the Grace , as that is of the death of Christ , if it be God that worketh in us both to will and to do , of his good pleasure , the first by his preventing , the second by his assisting Grace , and both those bottom'd meerly in his 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 good pleasure , nothing in us any way meriting the first act , or purpose of Giving Grace , any farther then our wants and miseries rendered us the proper objects of his compassions and reliefs ; and the subsequent aids in like manner challengeable , onely from his promise , and the purport of the parable of the Talents , of Giving to him that hath , rewarding the use of the lower , with the gift of an higher degree of Grace , then still is this , the attributing nothing to our selves , but demerits , and provocations , and giving the whole glory to God. § . 12. Having gone thus far without any considerable disagreement , about the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , how to reconcile these three seeming repugnancies , wherein you apprehended the greatest difficulty to lye , and being hereby , as by so many postulata accorded between us , competently provided and furnished of a standard , and umpire , ( in case any light difference should arise ) what objection can S. Pauls 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , Rom. xi . 33. ( belonging expresly to another matter , the cutting off the obdurate , and gathering all perswasible believing Jews and Gentiles , and no way applicable to this ) interpose , why we should not proceed together to the consideration of the Doctrine of Decrees , as it hath been variously debated by others , and by you perspicuously recapitulated in the process of your papers ? § . 13. To this therefore I presume of your good leave that we now proceed , and whereas you have prudently chosen to begin with an history of your own thoughts on this subject , which you have laid down with great particularity , I shall set out with a bare transcript of that , which will need no comment of mine , to render it usefull to the Reader , in discovering to him the true and sole originall of the thriving ( for some time ) of those Doctrines among us , and how so many of our Church came to be seasoned with them , and in giving him a but necessary caution for the laying the grounds of the study of Divinity in the writings of the antient Church , rather then in our modern systemes and Institutions . Your words are these , § . 14. When I began to set my self to the Study of Divinity as my proper business , ( which was after I had the degree of Master of Arts , being then newly xxi . years of age ) the first thing I thought fit for me to do , was to consider well of the Articles of the Church of England , which I had formerly read over twice , or thrice , and whereunto I had subscribed . And because I had then met with some Puritanicall Pamphlets written against the Liturgie , and Ceremonies ; although most of the Arguments therein were such as needed no great skill to give satisfactory answers unto , yet for my fuller satisfaction ( the questions being de rebus agendis , and so the more suitable to my proper inclination ) I read over with great diligence and no less delight that excellent piece of Learned Hooker's Ecclesiasticall Politie . And I have great cause to bless God for it that so I did , not onely for that it much both cleared and setled my judgement for ever after in very many weighty points ( as of Scandall , Christian Liberty , Obligation of Laws , Obedience , &c. ) but that it also proved ( by his good providence ) a good preparative to me ( that I say not , Antidote ) for the reading of Calvin's Institutions with more caution then perhaps ( otherwise ) I should have done . For that Book was commended to me , as it was generally to all young Scholars in those times , as the best and perfectest systeme of Divinity , and fittest to be laid as a ground work in the study of that profession . And indeed being so prepared as is said , my expectation was not at all deceived , in the reading of those Institutions . I found , so far as I was then able to judge , the method exact , the expressions clear , the style grave , equall and unaffected : his Doctrine for the most part conform to S. Augustines , in a word , the whole worke very elaborate , and usefull to the Churches of God in a good measure ; and might have been ( I verily believe ) much more usefull , if the honour of his name had not given so much reputation to his very errours . I must acknowledge my self to have reaped great benefit by the reading thereof . But as for the questions of Election , Reprobation , Effectuall Grace , Perseverance , &c. I took as little notice of the two first , as of any other thing contained in the book ; both because I was alwayes affraid to pry much into those secrets , and because I could not certainly inform my self from his own writings , whether he were a Supralapsarian ( as most speak him , and he seemeth often to incline much that way ) or a Sublapsarian , as sundry passages in the book seem to import . But giving my self mostly still to the study of Moral Divinity , ( and taking most other things upon trust , as they were in a manner generally taught both in the Schools and Pulpits in both Vniversities ) I did for many years together acquiesce without troubling my self any farther about them , in the more commonly received opinions concerning both these two , and the other points depending thereupon . Yet in the Sublapsarian way ever , which seemed to me of the two , the more moderate , rationally and agreeable to the goodness , and justice of God : for the rigid Supralapsarian doctrine could never find any entertainment in my thoughts from first to last . But MDCXXV . a Parliament being called , wherein I was chosen one of the Clerks of the Convocation for the Diocesse of Lincoln , during the continuance of that Parliament ( which was about four moneths , as I remember ) there was some expectation that those Arminian points ( the onely questions almost in agitation at that time ) should have been debated by the Clergy , in that CONVOCATION . Which occasioned me ( as it did sundry others ) being then at some leasure , to endeavour by study and conference to inform my self , as throughly and exactly in the state of those Controversies , as I could have opportunity , and as my wit would serve me for it . In order whereunto , I made it my first business to take a survey of the severall different opinions concerning the ordering of Gods Decrees , as to the salvation or damnation of men ; not as they are supposed to be really in Mente Divina ( for all his Decrees are eternall and therefore coeternall , and so no priority or posteriority among them : ) but quoad nostrum intelligendi modum , because we cannot conceive or speak of the things of God , but in a way suitable to our own finite condition , and understanding : Even as God himself hath been pleased to reveal himself to us in the holy Scriptures by the like suitable condescensions and accommodations . Which opinions , the better to represent their differences to the eye , uno quasi intuitu , for their more easie conveying to the understanding by that means , and the avoiding of confusion and tedious discoursings , I reduced into five Schemes or Tables , much after the manner as I had used to draw Pedigrees ( a thing which I think you know I have very much fancied , as to me of all others the most delightfull recreation ) of which Schemes , some speciall friends , to whom I shewed them , desired copies : who , as it seemeth , valuing them more then I did ( for divers men have copies of them , as I hear , but I do not know that I have any such my self ) communicated them farther , and so they are come into many hands . Those are they which Doctor Reynolds , in his Epistle prefixed to Master Barlees Correptory Correction , had taken notice of . Having all these Schemes before my eyes at once , so as I might with ease compare them one with another , and having considered of the conveniences and inconveniences of each , as well as I could , I soon discerned a necessity of quitting the Sublapsarian way of which I had a better liking before , as well as the Supralapsarian , which I could never fancy . ] § . 15. Thus far your history , which , I verily believe to have perfect truth in every step of it , without any disguise or varnish , and so I pass from it without any farther Reflections . § . 16. Next then follows your distincter view of the severall wayes , which have been embraced by those of the Antiremonstrant perswasion , and the motives on which you were forced to dissent and depart from each of them , and to this I am obliged to attend you 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . And the wayes being especially three , the method of greatest advantage will be to begin with a transient view of those , each of which you with great reason reject , and to set Doctor Twisses first ( though it came last into the world and adorn'd it self with the spoiles of the other two ) because that sets the object of Election higher , then the other do , homo creabilis , man considered before he is created . His design and scheme you have perspicuously drawn , thus , [ That God making his own Glory the only end of all other his Decrees , all these decrees of creating man , of permitting sin , of sending Christ , of preaching the Gospel , of Electing some , of Reprobating others , and the rest , make up one entire coordinate Medium , conducing to that one End , and so the whole subordinate to it , but not any one part , or joynt thereof subordinate to any other of the same . ] Against this , your objection I profess to be very convincing , taken from his own beloved axiome , so oft repeated by him , ( and borrowed from him , and built upon by others ) that whatsoever is first in the intention , is last in the execution . For as it is most evident , that of these his supposed coordinate decrees some are after others in execution ( the fall after the creation , the coming of Christ after both , and so of the rest ) so if he will stand to his principle , he must , as you say , grant , that those that were thus after any other in the execution , were in Gods intention before them , which will necessarily bring in a subordination among them , and so quite overthrow this ( as you call it ) new crochet of coordination . § . 17. Your other causes of dislike to His way are equally rational , 1. the falsness of that his Logick Maxime , which he builds so much upon , which yet hath no certain truth , or other then casuall , but when it is applyed to final causes , and the means used for the attaining any end . 2. The prodigiousness of his other doctrine , that there are more degrees of bonity in damnato quam annihilato , ( because the bonitas entis ) and so that it is better for the Creature to be in eternall misery , then simply not to be ; when Christ expresly pronounceth the contrary of wicked men , that it had been better for them never to have been born , to have a milstone about the neck , and to be cast into the sea , ( a figure to represent annihilation ) then to be involved in those dangers that attend their sins . 3. His resolving Gods Election of a man to life eternall to be * no act of his mercy , and likewise his † reprobating and ordaining to damnation to be no act of his Justice , but of his pleasure . ] A few such Propositions as these are competent to blast and defame any cause , which requires such aids , stands in need of such supporters , and therefore you will be confident I concurr with you in rejection of that , though I think neither of us likely to undertake the travel of refuting of his whole work . § . 18. Next then for the Supralapsarians , with whom the object of the decree is homo conditus , man created , not yet fallen , and the Sublapsarians , with whom it is Man fall'n , or the corrupt Mass , your rejections and reasons thereof are twined together , and are especially two , which you justly call very weighty , and so I suppose they will be deem'd by any man , that shall consider the force of them , without prejudice , I shall therefore set them down from your letter in your own words . § . 19. The first reason is , because though it might perhaps be defensible , as to the justice of God , in regard of his absolute power over his own creature , yet it seems very hardly reconcileable with the goodness of God , and his exceeding great love to mankind , as they are plentifully and passionately set forth in his holy word , to decree the eternall damnation of the greater part of mankind , for that sin , and for that sin onely which was utterly and naturally impossible for him to avoid , for the Decree of Reprobation according to the Sublapsarian Doctrine , being nothing else but a meer preterition or non-election of some persons whom God left , as he found them , involved in the guilt of the first Adams transgression , without any actuall personall sin of their own , when he withdrew some others , as guilty as they , without any respect to Christ the second Adam , it must needs follow that the persons so left are destin'd to eternall misery , for no other cause , but this onely , that Adam some thousand years since did eat the forbidden fruit , and they being yet unborn could not help it . § . 20. The other reason was , because the Scripture not onely saith expresly , that God hath chosen us in Christ before the foundation of the world , Eph. 1. 4 , 5. and consequently the decree of sending Christ must be praecedaneous to that of Election , but also doth every where , and upon all occasions hold forth the death of Christ , as intended by God for the benefit of mankind , in the utmost extent , [ the world , the whole world , mankind , every man , &c. ] and not for the benefit of some few onely , the rest by an antecedent peremptory decree excluded . To which it would be consequent , that according to the tenure of ( the more moderate of these ) the Sublapsarians doctrine , Jesus Christ the Judge at the last day , when he should proceed to pronounce sentence upon the damned , should bespeak them to this effect , Ite maledicti , voluit enim Pater meus pro beneplacito , ut Adam peccato suo vos perderet , noluit ut ego sanguine meo vos redimerem , Go ye cursed , for my Father of his meer pleasure will'd that Adam by his sin should destroy you , will'd not that I by my blood should redeem you , the very thought whereof ( you say ) your soul so much abhorr'd , that you were forced to forsake that opinion of the Sublapsarians , ( having , as you profess , never phansied the Superlapsarians ) and conclude it unsafe to place the decree of Election before that of sending Christ . § . 21. These two reasons of changing your judgement , are , I confess , so worthy of a considering man , who makes Gods revealed will his Cynosure , and doth not first espouse doctrines of men , and then catch at some few obscure places of Scripture , to countenance them , nor makes his retreat to the abyss of Gods unfathomable Counsels , as the reason of ( that which is its contradictory ) his attempting to fathome and define them , that I doubt not but the tendering of them to all dispassionate seekers of truth , that have not so me interests to serve by adhering peremptorily and obstinately to their prepossessions , will be of the same force to disabuse and extort from them the same confessions , which they have from you , causing them fairly to deposite these two Schemes , and either not to desine at all , or to seek out other solider Methods , and more Catholick Grounds of defining ; and if the wise heathen were in the right Virtus est vitium fugere , & sapientia prima Stultitia caruisse — this will be some degree of proficiency , which they that shall with unspeakable joy have transcribed from you , will also have temptation to accuse your fears , or waryness , that they received not this lesson sooner from you , especially when they are told , what here you express , that these have been your thoughts , ever since the year 1625. i. e. 34. years since , which is an age or generation in the Scripture-use of the word . § . 22. That none may be any longer deprived of this means of their conviction , or permitted to think or teach securely and confidently , and as in accord with you , what you profess your soul thus long to have abhorred the very thought of , I desire you will at length communicate your thoughts your self , or else allow this letter of mine to be your 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and do it for you , under some testimony of your full approbation of this your sence . § . 23. But all this , thus far advanced , is but the rejection of the severall erroneous wayes , and onely the negative part of your thoughts , which yet , by the way let me tell you , is fully sufficient both to the peace of Churches , and of particular souls ; If the erroneous wayes be rejected , from whence all the misapprehensions of God , and ill consequences thereof flow , the Church is competently secured from tares , and then what need express articles , and positive definitions come in to her rescue ? § . 24. This I suppose the reason both of our Churches Moderation in framing the Article of Predestination , and of our late Kings Declaration , in silencing the debate of the questions . For if by these methods the Church could but have prevailed to have the definitions of the several pretenders forgotten , all men contenting themselves , as our Article prescribes , with the promises of God , as they are declared in Scripture , ( which sure are Vniversal and conditionate , not absolute and particular ) the turmoil and heat , and impertinence of Disputes had been prevented , which now goes for an engagement in Gods cause , the bare fervour and zeal in which is taken in commutation for much other piety , by many the most eager contenders . The doctrines being deemed doctrines of God , are counted evidences of sanctified men , and affix the censure of carnality on opposers , and from hence come bitter envyings , railings , and at the least evil surmisings , and these are most contrary to the outward peace of a Church or Nation . § . 25. And for particular mens souls , if the rigid doctrines be found apt to cool all those mens love of God , who have not the confidence to believe themselves of the number of the few chosen vessels , and to beget security and presumption in others , who have conquered those difficulties , and resolved that they are of that number , and to obstruct industry and vigorous endeavours , and fear of falling , and so to have malignant influences on practise , yet seeing it is the believing the Antiremonstrant Schemes ( one or other of them ) to be the truth of God , which lyes under these ill consequences , the bare laying them aside , leaves every man indispensably under the force of Christs commands to disciples , terrours to the unreformed , and conditional ( most expresly conditional ) promises to all ; and those being substantially backed with the firm belief of all the Articles of the Creed , particularly of the judgement to come , are by the grace of God abundantly sufficient to secure Evangelical obedience , the true foundation of peace to every Christian soul , and therefore I say , est aliquid prodire tenus , your negative part , if there were no more behind , will be of soveraign use to all that have been seduced into any liking of those errours , which are by a man of your moderation and judgement , in despight of contrary prepossessions , on reasons so convincing and perspicuous , rejected . § . 26. But in the space of thirty four years , though you have permitted your genius to lead you to other studies ( which if your rejections be granted , I shall willingly confess to be more universally profitable , then any minuter searches into the decrees ) those of moral or practical Divinity , yet it seems you have not liv'd such an obstinate Recluse from the disputes and transactions of men , but that occasions you have met with to excite your faculties , to wade a little farther into the Positive part of these Doctrines : and indeed it is hard to conceive how a man can have spent so many hours , as the Survey of Doctor Twisses Vindiciae Gratiae , were it never so slight and desultory , must have cost you , without some other reflections , besides those of bare aversation to his Hypotheses . § . 27. To these you at length proceed , proposing them with difference , owning some of them , as your present thoughts , and opinion , whilst in others you profess to be purely sceptick , and to propose them onely as conjectures , that seem to you in the mean time not improbable , untill you meet with some other more satisfactory . And in making this difference I fully accord with you , discerning that undeniable evidence of grounds in the former , which is not so readily discoverable in the latter . I shall therefore follow your direction herein , and rank these severally , setting down those which you own as your opinion first , and afterward , with that note of difference , proceed to your Conjectures . § . 28. Concerning the Decrees of Election and Reprobation , your present opinion is contained in these three propositions ( prefaced with two more , which are but the disavowing the three wayes of Massa nondum condita , condita ante lapsum , & corrupta . ) § . 29. I. That man being made upright , and so left in manu consilii sui ( God permitting him to act according to that freedome of will wherewith as a reasonable creature he had endowed him ) did by his own voluntary disobedience , through the cunning of Satan , tempting him thereunto , fall away from God , cast himself into a state of sin and misery , under the bondage of Satan , without any power , possibility , or so much as desire to recover himself out of that wretched condition ; All which God did decree not to hinder , as purposing to make use thereof , as a fit occasion for the greater manifestation of his power , wisdome , goodness , mercy , justice , &c. Of this my opinion is , that it is , in every branch of it , so undeniably founded in the express affirmations of holy Writ , that there can be no doubt of it to any Christian . § . 30. II. That man being thus falln , God out of his infinite compassion to his creature , made after his own image ( and that Satan might not finally triumph in so rich a conquest , if the whole mass of mankind should perish ) decreed to send his onely begotten Son Jesus Christ into the world , to undertake the great work of our Redemption , and to satisfie his Justice for sin , that so notwithstanding the same , the whole mass of mankind lost by the fall of the first Adam , might be restored to a capability of salvation , through the mercy of God , and the merits of Jesus Christ , the second Adam . In this , compared with what you before said , and afterwards add , I discern your full agreement to the words of our Church-Catechism , as those are exactly consonant to the manifold testimonies of sacred Writ , that Christ dyed for , and thereby redeemed all mankind ; your words being not ( to my apprehension ) capable of any of those evasions , that others are willing to reserve themselves in this business , as of his dying sufficiently , but not intentionally for all , for that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is superseded by your words of Gods sending Christ &c. that so mankind &c. ] which must needs import his unfeigned intention , that mankind should be restored to a reall capability of salvation , which is not with truth affirmable , if any one individuall of that whole kind be absolutely passed by , or left , or excluded from his part in this restauration , and capability of salvation , which yet we must resolve many millions to be , if that which is perfectly necessary to the recovery of those which were so totally lost , as your former proposition truly supposed , be not really and effectively made up to them by Christ . And as in this full latitude I am obliged to understand you , so I wish not any more pregnant words to expresse it , then those which you have chosen . § . 31. III. That man having by his fall rendred himself uncapable of receiving any benefit from the Covenant made with him in his first Creation , God was graciously pleased to enter into a new Covenant with mankind , founded in his Son Jesus Christ , consisting of Evangelical but conditional promises , of granting remission of sins , and everlasting life , upon the condition of faith in Christ , repentance from dead works , and new obedience : and gave commandment that the said Covenant by the preaching of the Gospel should be published throughout the world . this , you say , you conceive to be that which the Arminians call the generall decree of Predestination , but is rejected by the Calvinists , ] And that all these Decrees are ( according to our weak manner of understanding the way of Gods counsells , salva coexistentiâ & praesentialitate rerum omnium in mente divinâ ab aeterno ) antecedent to the decrees of Election and Reprobation . ] To this also I fully assent , both as to the truth , and fulness of the expression in every part , especially in that of Gods entring with mankind ( without any restraint ) the new Covenant , founded in Christ : of the conditionateness of the promises of that new Evangelical Covenant : of repentance and new obedience , together with faith in Christ , making up that compleat condition : of the antecedency of this Covenant in Christ ( and the command of publishing it throughout the world ) to the decrees of Election and Reprobation : which seems to me to be expresly set down from Christs words Mar. xvi . 15 , 16. And he said unto them , Go ye into all the world , and preach the Gospel to every creature , he that believeth and is baptized , shall be saved , he that believeth not , shal be damned . ] which evidently founds those two decrees in the precedaneous preaching , and mens receiving or rejecting of the Gospel . § . 32. And when the Gospels are all so express in setting down that command of Christ to his Apostles of preaching the Gospel to all the world , to the whole Creation , i. e , the whole Gentile , as well as Jewish world , ( and the travels of the Apostles witness their obedience to it ) and when the command of Christ is equivalent with a decree , and his giving of that in time an evidence of its being by him predestin'd from all eternity , it is very strange that this should be denyed or questioned by the Calvinists , or the Arminians rejected by them , when in effect they do but repeat Christs own words , who if he gave command to publish the Gospel to all , then must the publishing of the Gospel be matter of a general decree , there being no other so sure a way of discerning what was ab aeterno predestined by God in his secret counsel , as the Scriptures telling us what was by the Father , or Christ in time actually commanded . § . 33. Thus far and no farther reach those which you own to be your present opinions , and pronounce of them , that you are so far convinced from the phrases and expressions frequent in Scripture , that you cannot but own them as such , And then let me tell you , it were very happy that all men would agree in these , and yet more happy , it instead of more curious enquiries , they would sit down , and betake themselves uniformly and vigorously to that task , which the●e data bind indispensably upon them , and which is of that weight , that it may well imploy the remainder of their lives to perform it to purpose , I mean the work of Evangelical obedience , the condition of the new Covenant , without which the capability of pardon and salvation , which was purchased for mankind in general and for every man , shall never be actuated to any . § . 34. Beyond these therefore what you add , you acknowledge to be but conjectures , which though to you they seem not improbable , yet you profess to maintain your 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or Scepticisme in them . And if in any of these I should , on the same terms of conjecture , or seeming probability , differ from you , this still were fully to accord with you in the general , viz. the suspension of belief , and proceeding no farther then conjectures in these things . What the issue will be , shall now be speedily experimented , by proceeding to a view of them , remembring still that you propose them but as conjectures . § . 35. The first is , That the object of the decrees of Election and Reprobation , as they are set forth in the Scripture , seemeth to you to be man preached unto , Those being elected to eternal life , who receive Christ , as he is offer'd to them in the Gospel , viz. as their Lord and Saviour , and those reprobated , who do not so receive him . ] Herein I not onely perfectly agree with you , but more then so , I do think it an unquestionable truth , which carries it's evidence along with it , and so will be acknowledged by any that observes the limitation by you affixt to the subject of the proposition , the object of the decrees [ as they are set forth in the Scripture ] For he that shall but consider , that the holy Scripture is a donative afforded us by God , and designed for our eternal advantages , not to enable us to judge of others , but our selves , not to discover all the unsearchable recesses of his closet , or secret counsels ( abs condita Domino Deo nostro ) but to reveal to men those truths , which themselves are concern'd in , would make no difficulty to conclude , that the Scripture speaks onely of those , to whom it speaks , and as the Apostle saith , 1 Cor. v. 12. What hath he to do to judge them that are without ? leaving them wholly to Gods judgement , so doth the Scripture declare Gods dealing onely with those , to whom the Scripture comes , to whom some way or other ( whether by writing or preaching it matters not ) the Gospel of Christ is revealed . § . 36. This as it appears by innumerable evidences in the Scripture , so it is put beyond all dispute by that even now recited text , at Christs farewell , Mar. xvi . his commission to his Apostles , and declaration of the fixed determin'd consequences of it , an express transcript of Gods eternal destinations or decrees in that matter , Go into all the world , and preach the Gospel to every creature , He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved , and he that believeth not shall be damned ] In which words what can be the meaning of [ shall be saved , and shall be damned ] but this , that God hath decreed salvation and damnation to such ? Those therefore are the object of those divine decrees , who are the subject of that proposition , and those are evidently men preached to , of which some believe , and are baptized , and those have their parts in the first decree , that of election to salvation , some reject the Gospel , and believe not , and those fall under the second branch , that of rejection to Damnation . § . 37. Against the evidence of this , no opposition can be made , and to this it is undeniably consequent , that all the Decrees whereof Scripture treateth , are conditionate , receiving Christ as the Gospel offers him , as Lord , and Saviour , the former as well as the latter being the condition of Scripture-election , and the rejecting or not receiving him thus , the condition of the Scripture-reprobation . § . 38. As for any other which can be phansied distant from this ( and so all absolute Election or inconditionate Reprobation ) it must needs be resolved to be the meer invention and fabrick of mens brains , without the duct of Gods Spirit in Scripture , which if at least it hold not a strict analogy with that which the Scripture hath thus revealed to us , will never be excused from great temerity , and the sin of dogmatizing , the rifling Gods secrets , and setting up our own imaginations , if not prejudices , for the oracles of God. If this were well thought of , it would infallibly set a period to all further disputes , on this subject . And the proposition , which I have last set down from you , is so irrefragably convincing , that I hope it may be successful to so good an end , and all men that read it , resolve it their duty to preach no other Decrees of God from Scripture , but this , that all that receive the Gospel preached , and live according to the praescript rule thereof , ( for that is to receive Christ as there he is offered to them , as a Lord and Saviour ) shall be saved , and all they that reject it , when it is thus revealed , or live in contradiction to the terms whereon it is established , shall be damned . This would probably change curiosity into industry , unprofitable disquisitions into the search and trying of our own wayes , and working out our own salvation . § . 39. To this proposition , if it shall be granted , you annex two Corollaries , and I that have not onely yielded but challenged the undoubted truth of the Proposition , can make no question of the Corollaries , The first is this , § . 40. That it will be impossible to maintain the Doctrine of Vniversal Grace in that manner as the Remonstrants are said to assert it , against the objection which is usually made by their adversaries , how evangelical Grace can be offer'd to such nations or persons , as never had the Gospel preached unto them . ] § . 41. The truth of this Corollary ( as of all other ) must be judged of by the dependence from the Principle , the connexion it hath with the former proposition ; That spake of the Decrees , as they are set forth in Scripture , and of the condition required of them that are elected to salvation , receiving Christ preached , as he is offered in the Gospel , and accordingly it is most evident , that they that will found their Doctrine on Scripture , must find not onely difficulty , but impossibility to maintain the gift of evangelicall Grace ( which I suppose to be a supernaturall power to believe and obey the Gospel ) to those , to whom the Gospel hath never been revealed . What the Remonstrants are said to assert in this matter , I shall forbear to examine , because I design not to engage in any controversie at this time with any ; onely as on one side it is evident , that their adversaries can receive no benefit by the objection , the salvability of all to whom the Gospel is preached , being as contrary to their Doctrine of onely the Elect , as it would be , if extended to the heathens also , all Christians being not with them in the number of the Elect ; so on the other side , I should think it strange , that in our present notion of Evangelical grace , for a strength from God to receive and obey the Gospel preached , it should , by the Remonstrants , or any other , be affirmed from Scripture , that it is given , or offered to those to whom the Gospel hath not been revealed : S. Paul stiles the Gospel , the power of God unto salvation , and the preaching of it the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 administration of the spirit , and indeed the spirit is in Scripture promised onely to them who believe in Christ , and therefore speaking of what may be maintained by Scripture , and confining the speech to evangelical Grace , the Universality of it can no farther be by that maintained to extend , then to those to whom the Gospel is preached , for if Faith cometh by hearing , and hearing by the word , i. e. preaching the Gospel , it must follow , they cannot believe , and so have not Evangelical Grace , or strength to believe , without a Preacher . § . 42. And therefore I remember the Learned Bishop of Sarisbury , Doctor Davenant in his Lent Sermon ( I think the last he preached before the King ) declared his opinion to be ( as for Vniversal Redemption , so ) for Vniversal Grace within the Church ; and as for this he was , I think , by none accounted an Arminian , so I never heard any that was of the Remonstrant perswasions , unsatisfied with the scantness of that declaration , but thought it as much , as , speaking of Grace in the Scripture notion of it , evangelical Grace , could with any reason be required of him . § . 43. As for the state and condition of heathens , to whom the Gospel is not revealed , and yet it is no fault of theirs that it is not , as all those that lived before Christ and many since , as it is evident the Scripture was not delivered to them , nor consequently gave to us Christians rules for the judging of them , so it is most reasonable which you add in your second Corollary , which is this , § . 44. That into the consideration of Gods Decrees such nations or persons are not at all to be taken , as never heard of the Gospel , but they are to be left wholly to the judgement of God , since he hath not thought fit to reveal to us any certainty concerning their condition , but reserved it to himself , amongst his other secret counsels , the reasons of his wonderful and unsearchable dispensations in that kind . ] To which I most willingly subscribe in every tittle , and challenge it as the just debt to the force of that reason , that shines in it , that no man pass fatall decretory sentences on so great a part of mankind , by force of those rules , which they never heard of , nor without hearing could possibly know that they were to be sentenced by them . And this the rather upon four considerations which Scripture assures us of . First , that as all men were dead in Adam , so Christ died for all , that were thus dead , for every man , even for those that deny him , and finally perish : which as it must needs extend and be intended by him , that thus tasted death for them , to the benefit of those that knew him not ( for if he died for them that deny him , why not for them that are less guilty , as having never heard of him , especially when 't is not the Revelation of Christ , to which the Redemption is affixt , but his Death ) so the certain truth of this is most expresly revealed and frequently inculcated in the Scripture ( though nothing be there found of Gods decrees concerning them ) upon this ground especially , that no person of what nation soever should have any prejudice to Christian Religion , when it should be first revealed to him , when he finds his interest so expresly provided for by so gracious a Redeemer , who if he had not dyed for every man , 't were impossible for any Preacher to assure an Infidel , that he dyed for him , or propose any constringent reason to him , why he should believe on him for salvation . To this it is consequent , that whatsoever Gods unrevealed wayes are , to deal with any heathen , what degree of repentance from Dead works , obedience , or performance soever he accept from them , this must needs be founded in the Covenant made with mankind in Christ , which you most truly have established , there being no other name under heaven , no salvation possible to lapsed man by any other Covenant ; Which , being set in opposition to the first Covenant of perfect unsinning obedience , and therefore called a second and Evangelical Covenant , on condition onely of sincere obedience , of doing what by Gods gift , purchased by Christ , men are enabled to do , it follows still , that whatsoever acceptation or mercy they , who never heard of Christ , can be imagined to have afforded them by God , must be conformable to the tenure of the Evangelicall Covenant , and so to the praise of the Glory of that Grace , whereby whosoever is accepted by God , is accepted in the beloved . § . 45. The second Consideration is the analogy , which , in one respect , is observable between those to whom the Gospel is not revealed , and all children and Idiots within the pale of the Church , for although believing in Christ were supposed equally by the law of Scripture to be exacted of all , and so of both those sorts ( nay by the intervention of the vow of Baptism to be more expresly the obligation of those that are baptized , then those that are not ) yet there is no reason producible to free the Christian children and idiots from the blame of not believing , which will not with equall force be producible for those heathens , to whom the Gospel was never revealed , it being as impossible to see without the presence of the object , as without the faculty of sight , without the Sun , as without eyes , without the revelation of Christ , as without the intellective faculty ; which if it be not part of the importance of that decree of heaven , Go and preach , and then he that believeth not shall be damned , yet it is fully accordant to it , and shews that that Text was not designed to give suffrage to the damnation of all but Christians , which is all that your Corollary , or my observations have aspired unto ; to which it is yet farther necessarily consequent , that these Scripture Decrees which you speak of ( and whosoever speaks of any other must be resolved to speak from some other dictate , then that of Scripture ) comprize not all men , no nor all baptized Christians under them , being terminated onely in those to whom the Gospel is revealed , and those certainly are not all that are brought into the world , or even to Baptismal new birth . § . 46. The third consideration is , that seeing the Scripture assures us , that they which have received more , of them more shall be required , and that he that knoweth and doeth not , shall be beaten with many stripes , this must needs advertise us , that whatever priviledges Christians may have beyond heathens , this is not one , that a smaller degree of obedience and performances shall be accepted of them , then of heathens would be , but the contrary , that to whom less is given , less will be required , according to that of S. Augustine , Ex eo quod non accepit , nullus reus est , No man is guilty from that which he hath not received . § . 47. The fourth Consideration is , that God rewards those that have made use of the single talent , that lowest proportion of Grace , which he is pleased to give ; and the method of his rewarding is by giving them more grace , which as it is in some degree applicable to heathens , who have certainly the talent of naturall knowledge , and are strictly responsible for it , so if they use not that , but retain the truth in unrighteousness , Rom. 1. 18. that makes their condition but the same with ours , ( who are finally lost also , and at the present have our talent taken away from us ) if we make not the due use of it . § . 48. This , 't is visible , hath befaln those Nations who once had the Gospel preacht to them , and after the knowledge of the truth , return'd to their heathen sins , and so had their candlestick taken from them ( to which and not to Gods primary denying them Evangelical Grace , their present Barbarity is to be imputed ) And the onely conclusion which we can hence duely make , is the acknowledgement of Gods just judgements on them , and reasonable fear lest he deal in like manner with us , if we transcribe their copy , imitate them in their demerits . Should God most justly thus punish this nation at this time , could it either now or in future ages be reasonable hence to argue against the Doctrine of Vniversal Grace , in case there were a concurrence of all other evidences for the truth of the Doctrine ? Certainly it could not . In like manner then it cannot be reasonable to argue thus from the like fate , and effects on other Nations . § . 49. To which I may add , that Christ being , we know , in Gods decree and promise , the Lamb slain from the beginning of the world , if this argument be now of force against the heathens , it must equally hold against all that understood no more of the Predictions of Christ , then the Pagans do now of the History . § . 50. And then it must , should it have force , follow , not onely that the Sacrifice of Christ was intended to be of avail to none but the Jews , to whom onely the Oracles of God were committed , ( which yet you acknowledge was intended to all ) but also that as far as we have wayes of judging , a very small part of those Jews received the salvifick Grace of Christ , if it were confined and annext to the revelation and belief of him ; For if we may judge of other ages by that wherein Christ appeared , the Prophecies of the Crucified Messias were very little understood by that people . All this makes it more prudent , and rationall , and pious to search our own wayes , then to pass sentence on other men , which is the onely thing I have aimed at in these four Considerations . § . 51. Your second Proposition , which you tender as a Conjecture , I cannot but own under an higher style of an evident truth of Scripture , It is this , That there is to the outward tender of Grace in the ministry of the Gospel annexed an inward offer also of the same to the heart , by the spirit of God going along with his word , which some of the Schoolmen call auxilium Gratiae generale , sufficient in it self to convert the soul of the hearer , if he do not resist the Holy Ghost , and reject the Grace offerr'd : which as it is grounded upon these words , Behold I stand at the door and knock , and upon very many other passages of Scripture beside , so it standeth with reason , that the offer , if it were accepted , should be sufficient ex parte sui to do the work , which if not accepted , is sufficient to leave the person , not accepting the same , unexcusable . ] This I say I am obliged to assent to in the terms , and upon the double ground both of Scripture and reason , whereon you induce it . If there were but one text of Scripture so convincingly inferring it , that sure would advance it above a barely probable Conjecture . But I think the whole tenure of the new Testament inforceth the same , and though you name but one , you say there are many other passages of Scripture , on which 't is founded . I shall mention but two , 1. that of the Apostle who cals preaching the word , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the administration of the Spirit , which the Father expresses by verbum vehiculum Spiritus , the word is the chariot in which the Spirit descends to us , 2. that description of resisting the holy spirit , which S. Stephen gives us , Act. vii . 51. by their being like the Jews , which persecuted the Prophets which spake unto them , which concludes the holy spirit to be given with the preaching of the Gospel , else how could the rejecting and persecuting the one be the resisting of the other ? So likewise though you mention but one reason , yet that is as constringent as many , nothing but sufficiency of supernaturall Grace being competent to render him , that is acknowledged naturally impotent , unexcusable . And therefore deeming that abundantly confirmed to advance it above a disputable probleme , I proceed to the next Proposition , the third , which you rank under the style of Conjectures , It is this , § 52. That because the sufficiency of this General Grace notwithstanding , through the strength of naturall corruption it might happen to prove uneffectuall to all persons , God vouchsafed out of the supereffluence of his goodness , yet ex mero beneplacito , without any thing on their part to deserve it , to confer upon such persons as it pleased him to fix upon , ( without inquiring into under what qualifications , preparations or dispositions considered , ) a more speciall measure of Grace which should effectually work in them faith and perseverance unto salvation ] This ( you say ) you take to be the election especially spoken of in the Scriptures , and if so , then the Decree of Reprobation must be nothing els but the dereliction or preterition of the rest , as to that special favour of conferring upon them this higher degree of effectuall Grace . Against this , you say , you know enough may be objected , and much more then you esteem your self able to answer , yet to your apprehension somewhat less then may be objected against either of the extreme opinions . ] § . 53. Of this Proposition , as being the first by you produced , to which your caution seems to be due , some things may in passing be fitly noted . First , that for the stating of that community which is here set down as the object of Election and reprobation , and exprest by a generall style [ all persons ] this Caution is necessarily to be taken in , that the proposition is not to be interpreted in the utmost latitude , that the style [ all persons ] is capable of , but as analogy with your former doctrine strictly requires , for the generality of men preach'd to : and so neither belongs to heathens , nor to the Infants or Idiots , or uninstructed among Christians , but to those that having the Gospel revealed to them , and sufficient grace to enable them to receive it , are yet left in the hand of their own counsell , whether they will actually receive it , or no. § . 54. Now of these ( which is the second thing to be observed in your proposition ) it is manifest , that if ( as you suppose both in the former , and in this Proposition , ) they have grace truly sufficient afforded them , then they want nothing necessary to a faln weak sinful creature , to conversion , perseverance and salvation , and if so , then by the strength of this Grace , without addition of any more , they may effectually convert , persevere and be saved ; and then though what may be , may also not be , and so it be also possible that of all that are thus preach'd to , and made partakers of this Grace , no one shall make use of it to these effects , yet this is but barely possible , and not rendred so much as probable , either upon any grounds of Scripture or Reason . In the Scripture there is no word revealed to that sense , or , that I ever heard of , produced or applyed to it , but on the contrary , in the Parable of the Talents ( which seems to respect this matter particularly ) they that received the Talents to negotiate with , did all of them , except one , make profit of them , and bring in that account to their Master , which received a reward , which is utterly unreconcileable with the hypothesis of Gods foreseeing that the talent of sufficient Grace would be made use of by none that received no more then so . As for that one that made not use of it , all that is intimated concerning him , is , that if his share comparatively was mean , yet by the Lord he is charged as guilty for not putting it into the bank , that at his coming he might receive his own with usury , which certainly evinces , that that lazy servant is there considered as one that might have managed his stock as well as the rest , and that that stock was improvable no less then the other , according to their severall proportions , and so herein there is no difference taken notice of in favour to your Conjecture . And in Reason it hath no sound of probability , that of so great a number of Christians , sufficiently furnished by God , no one should make use of it to their souls health ; 't is evident in the Apostles preaching at Jerusalem and elswhere , that at the first proposal of the truth of Christ to them , and the Doctrine of Repentance , whole multitudes received the Faith , and came in , and no doubt many of them proved true , and constant Christians , and it is not amiss to observe of the heads of Doctrine , which the Apostles agreed to publish in all their peregrinations , that they are of such force ( and were on that account pitcht on by them ) as might reasonably and probably , with the supposed concurrence of Gods Grace , beget repentance , and new life in all , to whom they were preach'd over the whole world , ( and then what the Apostles deemed a rationall and probable means to that end , there is no reason or probability to think should never in any produce this effect ) according to that of Athanasius , that the Faith confest by the Fathers of Nice , according to holy Writ , is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , sufficient for the averting of all impiety , and the establishment of all piety in Christ . To which may be applyed that of S. Augustine of the Creed , Quae pauca verba fidelibus nota sunt , ut credendo subjugentur Deo , ut subjugati recte vivant , recte vivendo , cor mundent , corde mundo , quod credant , intelligant . These few words are known to believers , that by believing , they may be subjugated to God , that by being subjugated , they way live well , that by living well they may cleanse their hearts , that by cleansing their hearts they may understand what they believe . And herein the all-wise providence and infinite mercy of God seems to be engaged , who in the Parable of his dealing with his Vineyard , Isa . v. not onely expostulates , What could I have done more to my vineyard which I have not done ] but also affirmeth that he looked it should bring forth grapes , and as a farther evidence of that , built a wine-press , in expectation of its bearing fruit by strength of what he had done to it , which could not well be affirmed by , or of God , if it were not probable and rational , that in some it should have the desired effect . § . 55. And if what , on account both of Scripture and reason ( the onely wayes left us to judge by in this matter ) is thus far removed from improbable , may be supposed to have any truth in it , i. e. if the sufficient Grace annexed to the authorized sufficient means , have without farther addition , ever converted any , it then follows necessarily in the third place , that the Election and Dereliction now proposed by you must have for its object not indefinitely ( as before you set it ) man preach'd unto , or all that part of mankind to whom the Gospel is offered , and that Grace annexed thereto , but onely that portion of such , as are not wrought upon , or who God in his infinite prescience discerns would not be wrought upon effectually , and converted by that measure of sufficient Grace , which he hath annext to the word preach'd . For without enquiring what proportion of the number of men preach'd unto may probably be placed in that rank ( or without assuming any more , then that it is neither impossible nor improbable that there should be such a rank ) of men converted , and persevering by the strength of that foresaid sufficient Grace , annexed to the word , the inference is undeniable , that all , whether few or many , that are of this rank ( it being no way probable there should be none ) shall certainly be saved by force of the second Covenant , which decreed eternall life to all that should believe on him and receive him , as the Gospel tenders him , as their Lord and Saviour , and so cannot be comprised in the number of them to whom this supereffluence of goodness is supposed to be vouchsafed , in the granting of which ex mero beneplacito your conjecture makes the Scripture-Election to consist , and in the Dereliction and Preterition of the rest ( in respect of that speciall favour ) the Decree of Reprobation . § . 56. The plain issue whereof is but this , that if this conjecture , thus explicated , be adhered to , then many not onely of Children , Idiots , heathen ( formerly reserved to Gods secret judgements ) but of adult baptized Christians also , either are or may be saved , who are not of the number of the Scripture-Elect . Which whether it be reconcile able with the purport of those places , which in Scripture seem to you to respect Election , or to favour this opinion , I must leave to farther consideration , being as yet incompetent to interpose any judgement of it , because I know not what those places are which most seem to favour it . § . 57. As for the Doctrine it self , of supereffluence of Grace to some , ( abstracted from making it any account of Gods Decrees of Election and Reprobation ) It is such as I can no way question , for certainly God being granted to give sufficient Grace to all , there is no objection imaginable against this superabounding to some ex mero beneplacito ; Nothing more agreeable to an infinite abyss and unexhaustible fountain of goodness , then such supereffluence , and he that hath not his part in it , yet having his portion , and that supposed sufficient , ought not to have an evil eye , to complain and murmure at this partiality , and inequality of distribution of Gods goodness , or if he do , the words of the parable of the Labourers in the Vineyard must here have place , Friend , I do thee no wrong , did not I agree with thee for a penny , take that is thine , and go thy way , is it not lawful for me to do what I will with my own ? Mat. xx . 13 , 14 , 15. And it is there observable , that all the occasion of murmuring arose from the order there observed in accounting with , and paying the Labourers , beginning with them that came last into the vineyard , for by that means they being allowed a dayes wages for an hours labour , the others expectation was raised to an higher pitch , then probably it would , if they had been paid , and discharged first , for then not seeing the liberality that others tasted of , they would in all probability have expected no more , then the hire for which they agreed ; And then why should so casual a circumstance , as the being paid last or first , have any influence on their minds , or tempt them to murmure at Gods goodness , who from the nature of the thing had no least temptation to it ? § . 58. Onely by the way it must be yielded to the force of that parable , that that supereffluence of which some are there supposed to tast , was no part of the Covenant of Grace , ( his agreement with them being but in these words , Go into the vineyard , and what is right you shall receive , v. 7. ) but , above what his bargain or covenant obligeth , of his good pleasure , though , on the other side , it be observable , 1. That an allowable account is there given by those men of their not coming sooner into the Vineyard , and consequently of their not bearing the heat of the day , in which all the disproportion between them and others , all the seeming supereffluence is founded , viz. they were no sooner called , or hired by any man , and 2. that by the application of the parable to the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , to those that came first , and those that came later into the Apostleship , to Peter , and Paul , there might still be place for more abundant labouring in those that came last , and so for reward , in proportion ( though through mercy ) to that more abundant labouring , according to the way of setting down the same parable among the Jews , in * Gemara Hierosol where the Kings answer to the murmurers is , He in those two hours hath laboured as much as you have done all the day . § . 59. But without examining the Acts of Gods munificence , according to any rules but those of munificence , and again without insisting on the method which God himself seems to direct us to in this matter , in the parable of the Talents , where the Rule is generall , that to him that hath shall be given , and he shall have abundance , i. e. that the supereffluence of Grace is ordinarily proportioned to the faithful discharge of former trusts , making use of the foregoing sufficient Grace , there will be little reason to doubt , but that God out of his meer good pleasure , without any desert on our part , doth thus dispense his favours to one , more then to another , to one servant five talents , to another ten , but to all some , onely the difficulties will be , 1. whether it be not as possible , though not as probable , that the supereffluence of Grace may be resisted , as the lower , but sufficient degree , and then , whether the condemnation be not the greater , there will be no doubt ; Paul that is the most pregnant example of the supereffluence , is still , under a woe , obliged to preach the Gospel , and whilest he preacheth to others , supposes it possible , that himself , if he do not bring his body in subjection , may become a castaway , and till he hath fought his good fight , and finish'd his course , and constantly kept the faith , we never find him confident of receiving his crown , which then he challenges from Gods righteousness , or fidelity ; 2. whether the extraordinary favour of God , which some men receive , and by vertue of which , over and above the sufficient Grace , they may be thought to be wrought on effectually , may not rather be imputed to Gods special providence , then his special Grace ? so in Bishop Overals way it seems affirmable , for in his Scheme the effectualness seems to be attributed to the giving what is given , tempore congruo , at a time when ( whether by sickness , or by any other circumstance of their state ) they are foreseen by God to be so qualified and disposed , that they shall infallibly accept Christ offered , on his own conditions , and so convert , and receive the seed into good ground , and so persevere and be saved , when the same man , out of those circumstances , would not have been wrought on by the same means . And if this be it which you mean ( as I doubt not but it is , and that herein you perfectly agree with Bishop Overall ) then I say the question is , whether the seasonable application or timeing be not rather to be imputed to speciall Providence , the mercy of Gods wise and gracious disposal to those men that are thus favoured , then to special Grace , as that signifies an higher degree of Gods grace , then is that sufficient measure , which is afforded to others ; it being possible that an equall , nay a lower degree of Grace , being congruously timed and tendred , may prove effectual , when the like , nay an higher , at another time , proves uneffectual . And though all acts of Gods good providence may in some sense be styled acts of his Grace , and so extraordinary providences may be styled special Graces , in which sense , the striking Paul in his journey to Damascus , and calling to him out of heaven with grace proportionable to that call , may fitly be called a work of Gods special Grace ; and so is every sickness or other judgement , that is sent to melt any , supposeable to have a proportionable , and that is an extraordinary and special Grace annext to it ; and the providence , and so the grace is the greater , if it be applyed tempore congruo , when there is no potent obstacle or principle for resistance ; yet still the question is seasonable , whether this be all that is meant by this speciall measure of Grace , which shall work effectually , or if more be meant , what ground there is for it in the Scripture . § . 60. To this second question your advertisement by letter hath given the satisfaction I expected , that you were not curious to consider the distinction between the Grace and the Providence of God , there being no necessity for so doing , as to your purpose , which was onely to express your sense , that it must be the work of God ( whether of Grace or Providence it matters not ) that must do the deed , and make the sufficient Grace effectuall . This answer I accept , and make no farther return to it , onely from the uncertainty of the former , as to any establishment from Scripture-grounds , and so likewise of this latter , till it shall appear by any sure word of promise to have any reall influence on the mattèr in hand , there is way made for a third question , § . 61. Whether granting the truth of all that is pretended for the supereffluence of Gods goodness to some , this can fitly de defined the thing , whereto Election is determined , and whether all that have not their part in this , are in Scripture-style said to be Reprobated . This I say , not to propose any new matter of dispute , or to require answer to all that may be objected against this notion of Decrees , which you ( and other very Learned and sober men ) have proposed by way of conjecture onely , but rather to demonstrate my concurrence with you , that this can amount no higher at most , then to a matter of conjecture . § . 62. And having said this , I shall propose it to your impartial consideration , I. Whether the Scripture ought not to be our guide in all even opining and conjecturing in such matters , which are so much above our reason ? II. Whether the Scripture do not furnish us with these express grounds , 1. that there are some sort of auditors that come to Christ , become his Proselytes , embrace the Gospel , when 't is preach'd unto them , that are 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , fit , or prepared , or disposed for the kingdome of God , obedience to the Gospel , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , disposed for eternall life , on file for it ( in opposition to others who are 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 v. 46. not worthy of , meet , or qualified for the Evangelical state ) 2. that probity of mind is specified to be this temper , a willingness to do Gods will , that ( in the parable ) of the good ground , and the honest heart meant by it . 3. that the Evangelical dispensations are governed by the maxime of habenti dabitur , to the humble he gives more grace , the poor are Evangelized , the children , and poor in spirit , of such , and of them is the kingdome of heaven ; and lastly , that God hath chosen the foolish things of the world , the weak , the degenerous , the vilified , those that are not , in opposition to the mighty , powerful , noble and wise . III. Whether on these and many other the like fundamentall Truths of the Gospel , it be not more reasonable to fetch the ground of the effectualness of that sufficient Grace to one , which is not effectuall to another , from the temper and disposition of the heart , to which the Gospel is preached , then from any other circumstance ( especially when this doth not deny , or exclude the proper efficacy of those circumstances , whatsoever they or it shall any way appear to be ) God having made the Baptist the forerunner to Christ , repentance to Faith , the * breaking up our fallow grounds , to his not sowing among thorns , and the very nature of the Gospel being such , that all that are truly sensible of their sins , the odiousness and danger of them , and heartily desirous to get out of that state , the weary and heavy laden , the humble , docile , tractable , honest heart , willing to take Christs yoke upon them , are constantly wrought on , and converted , when the promulgate mercies , or promises of the Gospel , and the Grace annext to it , are addrest to them , whereas the very same , nay perhaps a greater degree of light and Grace , meeting with a proud , refractary , pleasurable , or any way hypocritical , and deceitful heart , either is not at all heeded and received , or takes no firm root in it . § . 63. And if now ( the onely objection I can foresee ) it be demanded , whether this of probity , humility , &c. the subactum solum , soyl mellow'd , and prepared for this effectuall work of Grace , be not some natural quality , of the man , for if so , then the efficacy of grace will be imputed to these natural , or moral preparations , which is grosly prejudicial to the grace of God , and to the owing of all our good to his supernatural operations , the answer is obvious and unquestionable , that this ( I shall call it Evangelical ) temper is far from being natural to any corrupt child of Adam , where ever 't is met with , 't is a special plant of Gods planting , a work of his preparing , softning , preventing Grace , and as much imputable to the operation of his holy Spirit , as any effect of his subsequent or cooperating Grace is , which I challenge to be the meaning of those words of Christ , Joh. vi . 37. All that my Father giveth me , shall come to me ; where such as these , are first fitted by God , and then by him are said to be given to Christ , works of his finger , his spirit , and then by the authour of them presented to Christ , as the persons rightly disposed for his discipleship , and his kingdome in mens hearts , and this work of Gods in fitting them , is there called his drawing of them to Christ , v. 44. and as there it is said that none but such can come to Christ , so vers . 37. all such shall come to him , which is an evidence that the coming , wherein the effectualness of the grace consists , is imputable to this temper wrought in them by God. And if still it be demanded why this is not wrought in all Christians hearts , I answer finally , that the onely reason the Scripture teaches us is , because some resist that spirit , that is graciously given by God , and purposely designed to work it in them . § . 64. And if it still be suggested , that some are naturally more proud and refractary , and voluptuously disposed then others , ( an effect of their temper , owing oft to their immediate parents , who may transfuse their depravations and corruptions immediately to their children , as well as Adam hath done to us all mediately ) and so a greater degree of grace will be necessary to the humbling and mollifying them , and a lower , which might be sufficient for meeker tempers , will be unsufficient for them , and so still these are as infallibly excluded , and barred out , as if it were by a fatal decree passing them by in Massa , this will be also satisfied , by resolving , that God in his wise disposals and abundant mercies , proportioned according to mens wants , gives a greater degree of preventing Grace to such as he sees to be naturally in greatest need of it , or els applies it so advantageously by congruous timing , as he knows is sufficient even to them , to remove these naturall obstacles , but all this ( to them , as to others ) resistibly still , and so , as though it succeed sometimes , yet is frequently resisted . § . 65. By this means he that is proud and obstinate , and continues , and holds out such against all the softning preparations of heaven , ( sufficient to have wrought a kindlier temper in him ) being so ill qualified for the holy spirit of discipline , is not converted , but hardened by the same or equall means of the word and grace , by which the humble is converted , and then replenished with higher degrees ; And when the Scripture is so favourable to this notion , saying expresly that God chooses one and not the other , gives more grace to one , and from the other takes away that which he hath , resists the proud ( when they refuse discipline ) * speaks to them onely in parables , because seeing they see not , i. e. resist and frustrate Gods preventing graces , and infinite the like , why may not this rather be the Scripture-election , then that other which seems not to have any , at least not so visible grounds in it ? § . 66. Should this be but a Conjecture too , it is not the less fit for this place , where our discourse hath been of such , and the onely seasonable inquiry is , either 1. which is of probables the most , or of improbables the least such , ( and that I suppose is competently shew'd already ) or 2. which may be most safe , and least noxious , in case it should fail of exact truth . § . 67. On which occasion I shall add but this , that the onely consequence naturally arising from this Scheme is , that we make our elections after the pattern of God , choose humility and probity , and avert pride and hypocrisie , that before all things in the world , every man think himself highly concerned 1. not to resist or frustrate Gods preventing Graces , but chearfully to receive , cooperate , and improve them , to pray , and labour , and attend and watch all opportunities of Grace and Providence , to work humility and probity in his heart , impatience of sin , and hungring and thirsting after righteousness , as the onely soyle , wherein the Gospel will ever thrive , to begin his discipleship with repentance from dead works , and not with assurance of his election and salvation , to set out early , and resolutely , without procrastinating , or * looking back , Luk. ix . 62. and 2. if he hath overslipt such opportunities , to bewail and retrive them betimes , lest he be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin . and 3. whatsoever good he shal ever advance to , by the strength of Gods sanctifying and assisting grace , to remember with the utmost gratitude , how nothing hath been imputable to himself in the whole work , but from the beginning to the end , all due to supernatural Grace , the foundation particularly ( that which if it be the most imperfect , is yet the most necessary part of the building , and the sure laying of which tends extremely to the stability of the whole ) laid in Gods preventions , cultivating our nature , and fitting us with capacities of his higher donatives ; And what can less prejudice , nay more tend to the glory of his grace , then this ? § . 68. Whereas the other Scheme , as it takes special care to attribute all the work of conversion to Grace , and withall not so to limit that communicative spring , as to leave any destitute of a sufficient portion of it ( in which respect I have nothing really to object against it , if it could but approve it self by Gods word to be the Truth ) so when it bears not any such impress of Divine Character upon it , it may not be amiss to consider , Whether he that is perswaded that the sufficient Grace is such as may , and ( as some set it ) God sees will never do any man good , without the addition of his superesfluence , which he affords to few , ( and that if that come , it will infallibly do the work , if it come not , he is so past by , as to be reprobated by God ) may not have some temptations to despair on one side , and not do his utmost to cooperate with that sufficient Grace , which is allowed him , and so with the fool in Ecclesiastes * fold his hands together till he comes to eat his own flesh , or els to presume on the other side , and expect securely till the coming of the congruous good time of Gods choice , which shall give the effectualness to his Grace , and so be slothfull and perish by that presumption ? § . 69. Whether the Scheme , as it is set by learned men , ( abstracting now from the truth of it ) be in any considerable degree lyable to this danger , I leave those , that are favourable to it , to consider , presuming that if it be , it will not be thought fit to be pitcht upon , as the most commodious , without either the authority of Scripture , or some other preponderating advantages tendred by it , which to me are yet invisible . And thus much may serve for the doctrine of Gods Decrees , which if I mistake not , leaves them in relation to man , in this posture , ( as far as the Scripture-light leads us ) § . 70. 1. That God decreed to create man after his own image , a free and rationall agent , to give him a Law of perfect unsinning obedience , and conferr on him grace and faculties to perform it , and to reward that obedience with eternal bliss , and proportionably to punish disobedience . 2. That foreseeing the willfull fall of the first Man , with whom , and with all mankind , in him , this Covenant was made , and consequent to that , the depravation of that image , and that Grace , ( the image of Satan , corruption of the will , and all the faculties , taking the place of it ) he decreed to give his Son to seek and to save that which was lost , making in him , and sealing in his blood a new Covenant , consisting of a promise of pardon and sufficient Grace , and requiring of all the condition of uniform sincere obedience . 3. That he decreed to commissionate messengers to preach this Covenant to all mankind , promised to accompany the preaching of it to all hearts with his inward sufficient grace , enabling men to perform it in such a degree , as he in this second covenant had promised to accept of . 4. That the method which he hath decreed to use in dispensing this sufficient Grace , is , 1. to prevent and prepare mens hearts by giving them the grace of humility , repentance and probity of heart , i. e. by awaking and convincing men of sin , and giving them ( in answer to their diligent prayers ) grace sufficient to produce this in their hearts , and then upon their making use of this Grace to the designed end to add more powerfull assistances and excitations , enabling them both to will and to do , and upon their constant right use of these , still to advance them to an higher degree of sanctification , and perseverance , till at length he accomplish and reward them with a crown of Glory . § . 71. On the other side , to forsake them in justice , that obstinately resist and frustrate all these wise and gracious methods of his , and having most affectionately set life and death before them , and conjured them to choose one , and avoid the other , still to leave unto them , as to free and rationall Agents , a liberty to refuse all his calls , to let his talents lye by them unprofitably ; which if out of their own perverse choices they continue to do , he decrees to punish the contumacy finally , by assigning them their own options , to take their talents from them , and cast them into outer darkness , where shall be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth . § . 72. How clearly every part of this Scheme is agreeable to the several parables , whereby Christ was pleased to adumbrate the kingdome of heaven , and innumerable other passages in the Gospel , and the whole purport of the new Covenant , I leave to every man to consider , and then to judge for himself , whether it be not safer and more Christian to content our selves with this portion , which Christ hath thought fit to reveal to us , then to permit our curiosities to deeper and more pragmatick searches , especially if those shall either directly , or but consequentially undo , or but darken what is thus explicitly settled . § . 73. I proceed now to your second head of Discourse , ( which also I suppose , is , by what hath been already considered , competently established ) concerning the efficacy of Grace , &c. where your Proposition is thus set down . § . 74. That in the conversion of a sinner , and the begetting of Faith in the heart of man , the Grace of God hath the main stroke , chiefest operation , yet so , that the free will of man doth in some sort cooperate therewith ( for no man is converted or believeth without his own consent ) all parties pretend to agree . The point of difference is , how to state the manner and degree of the cooperation , as well of the one , as of the other , so as neither the glory of Gods Grace be eclipsed , nor the freedome of mans will destroyed . In which difficult point , you say , you think it fitter to acquiesce in those aforesaid acknowledged truths , in which both sides agree , then to hold close to either opinion ] § . 75. In this proposition , it being by you in the Conclusion most undeniably and Christianly resolved , that the one care ought to be , that neither the glory of Gods Grace be eclipsed , nor the freedome of man's will destroyed , It would not be amiss a little to reflect on the former part , and demand whether your expression were not a little too cautious , in saying , the grace of God hath the main stroke and chiefest operation ] did I not discern the ground of that caution , because you were to express that whereunto all parties must be supposed to consent . This being abundantly sufficient to account for your caution , I shall not doubt of your concurrence with me , that it may with truth be said , and I suppose also by the agreement , if not of all Christians , yet of both parties in this debate , particularly of the Remonstrants , that the Grace of God is in lapsed man the one sole principle of spirituall life , Conversion , Regeneration , Repentance , Faith and all other Evangelical vertues , and that all that can justly be attributed to our will in any of these , is the obeying the motions , and making use of the powers , which are thus bestowed upon us , by that supernatural principle ; To work and work out our own salvation , upon the strength of Gods giving us to will and to do ; by [ giving us to will and to do ] meaning his giving us power to each , as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , Luke 1. is giving us power to serve him in holiness and righteousness all the dayes of our lives , every initiall and more perfect act of holiness , especially persevering in it all our dayes , being wholly imputable to that power , which is given by Gods Spirit . For indeed when it is considered , what the state of our corrupt will is , being naturally averted from God , and strongly inclined to evil , it seems to me scarce proper to call this , in relation to supernatural vertues , a free will , till God by his preventing Grace hath in some degree manumitted it , till Christ hath made it free ; Being then what it is , i. e. in some degree emancipated by Gods Grace , and by Grace onely , ( this act of Christs love , and Grace being reached out to enemies , to men in their corrupt state of aversion and opposition to God ) the will is then enabled ( still by the same principle of Grace ) to choose life , when it is proposed , and the wayes and means to it , and though it be left free to act or not to act , to choose or not to choose , yet when it doth act and choose life , it doth it no otherwise ( to my understanding ) then the body doth perform all the actions of life , meerly by the strength of the soul , and that continuall animation it hath , it receives from it ; which makes the parallel compleat , and gave ground to the expression and comparison betwixt giving of natural life , and regeneration . § . 76. What freedome the will naturally ( under this corrupt state ) hath to other things , of all sorts , I do not now consider any farther , then that it is fully furnished with ability to sin , and so to refuse and contemn , and to receive in vain the Grace of God , and Grace it self doth not deprive it of that part of its corrupt patrimony : As for an uniform constant choice of those things that belong to our peace and spiritual end , for the beginning of that , and every step of motion through , and perseverance in it , Its freedome , and strength , and every degree of life , or action , is wholly and entirely from Grace , and then he that without him can do nothing , can do all things through Christ that strengthens him . And so the onely remaining question is ( which to me , I confess , is a posing one ) What exception can possibly be started against this stating , and consequently what farther doubt there can be in this matter . § . 77. I have of my self by my natural Generation , ( but this is also from God ) power for natural , nay sinful actings , for this I need no farther principle , and the supervenience of a supernatural takes it not from me ; Our experience assures us , what the Scripture so oft mentions , that we often resist the Holy Ghost , which we could not do , if at least it were not tendred to us : But for all degrees of good , from the first good motion toward conversion , to the enstating us in glory , it is wholly received from the Spirit of God , and the glory of it cannot in any degree , without the utmost sacriledge , be arrogated or assumed to our selves , as the work of our free will ; and seeing it is one act of superabundant grace to enable us to do any thing , and another to reward us for doing it in so imperfect a manner , ( and with such mixtures of manifold pollutions ) and a third to exercise us in , and reward us for those things , which are so agreeable and gratefull to our reasonable nature , Commandments far from grievous , a gracious yoke , as well as a light burthen , Not unto us , O Lord , not unto us , but to thy Name , give we the praise . Praise the Lord , O my soul , and all that is within me , praise his holy Name . § . 78. What you add on this theme , is by way of reflexion , on the inconvenient opinions of the opposite parties in this matter . 1. That on the Calvinists part these two things , viz. the physical predetermination , and ( which must necessarily follow thereupon ) the Irresistibility of the work of Grace , seem to you to be so inconsistent with the natural liberty of the will , and so impossible to be reconciled therewith , that you can not yet by any means fully assent thereto ] The style wherein this concludes [ cannot yet fully ] signifies to me , that you have , with great impartiality ( if not with favour and prepossession of kindness to the Antiremonstrant side ) endeavoured your utmost to reconcile these two Doctrines of Predetermination and Irresistibility , with the common notions of Morality and Christianity , and you cannot find any means to do it ; and I fully consent to you in it , and cannot but add , that the very being of all future judgement , and so of heaven and hell , considered as rewards of what is here done in our bodies , whether good or bad , nay the whole oeconomy of the Gospel , of giving , and giving more , and withholding and withdrawing Grace , and the difference betwixt the Grace of Conversion and Perseverance , and the force of exhortations , promises , threats , commands ( and what not ? ) depends immediately and unavoidably on the truth of the Catholick Doctrine of all ages , as in these points of Predetermination and Irresistibility , it stands in opposition to the Calvinists . The shewing this diffusedly , according to the merit of the matter , through the severall steps , were the work of a volume , of which I shall hope there can be no need , after so many have been written on the subject . § . 79. Your next reflexion is on the Arminians , of whom you say , On the other side , me thinks , the Arminians ascribe less to the grace of God , and more to the free will of man , then they ought , in this , That according to their Doctrine , why of two persons ( as Peter and Judas ) supposed to have all outward means of conversion equally applyed , yet one should be effectually converted , the other not , the discriminating power is by them placed in the will of man , which ( you say ) you should rather ascribe to the work of Grace ] If this be the right stating of the case between the Arminians and their opposites , I am then without consulting the Authors , assured by you that I am no Arminian , for I deem it impossible ( I say not for any man , not knowing what miracles the magick of some mens passions may enable them to work , but ) for you that have written what I have now set down from you , to imagine you ascribe more to the Grace of God , and less to the will of man , then I have thought my self obliged to do , making it my challenge and interest , and requiring it to be granted me ( and not my concession onely ) that all that any man is enabled to do , is by Christs strengthening him , § . 80. But not to question what others do , or to accuse or apologize for any , let us consider the case you set , and allow the truth to be judged of , in this whole question , by what this particular case shall exact . § . 81. But 1. in the setting of it , I cannot but mark two things , 1. That the persons made use of to set the case in , are Judas and Peter . 2. That to the word [ converted ] is prefixed [ effectually . ] This would make it probable that you think a man may be converted , and yet not effectually converted , or however that Judas was not effectually converted . That Judas was converted , and , as far as concerned the present state , abstracted from perseverance , effectually converted , I offer but this one testimony , the words of Christ to his Father , * [ Of those whom thou gavest me I have lost none , save onely the son of perdition ] That whosoever is by the Father given to Christ , is converted , and that effectually , is concluded from Christs universal proposition , All that my Father giveth me , shall come to me , Joh. vi . 37. and here it is expresly said that Judas ( though by his apostacy now become the son of perdition ) was by God given to Christ , and therefore he came to Christ , i. e. was converted , which also his being lost , his very Apostacy testifies , for how could he Apostatize from Christ , that was never come to him ? From hence it seems to me necessary either to interpret your speech of final perseverance , as if none were effectually converted , but such who persevere , ( which as it belongs to another question , that of perseverance , to which you after proceed , and not to this of reconciling irresistibility and free will , so it would seem to state it otherwise , then I perceive you afterwards do ) or , to avoid that , to understand no more by Judas and Peter then any other two names , suppose Robert and Richard , John at Noke and John at Stile , ( as you since tell me your meaning was ) the one converted effectually , i. e. really , the other not , when both are supposed to have the same outward means of conversion equally applied to them . § . 82. Now to the question thus set of any two , and supposing what hath been granted between you and me , that the outward means are accompanyed to both with a sufficient measure of inward Grace , My answer you discern already , that the Discrimination comes immediately from one mans resisting sufficient Grace , which the other doth not resist , but makes use of : In this should I add no more , there could be no difficulty , because as it is from corruption , and liberty to do evil , ( that meeting with the resistibility of this sufficient grace ) that one resists it , so it is wholly from the work of Grace upon an obedient heart , that the other is converted ; And so this stating ascribes all the good to the work of Grace , i. e. to that power , which by supernatural Grace is given him , and all the ill to man and his liberty , or ability to resist . § . 83. But from what hath been said , there is yet more to be added , viz. that the obedience of the one to the call of Grace , when the other , supposed to have sufficient , if not an equal measure , obeyes not , may reasonably be imputed to the humble , malleable , melting temper , ( which the other wanted ) and that again owing to the preventing Graces of God , and not to the naturall probity , or free will of Man , whereas the other , having resisted those preparing Graces , or not made use of them , lyeth under some degree of obduration , pride , sloth , voluptuousness , &c. and that makes the discrimination on his side , i. e. renders him unqualified and uncapable to be wrought on by sufficient Grace , and so still , if it be attentively weighed , this attributes nothing to free will , considered by it self , but the power of resisting and frustrating Gods methods ( which I should think , they that are such assertors of the corruption of our nature , should make no difficulty to yield him , but that they also assert the irresistibility of Grace , and that is not reconcileable with it ) yielding the glory of all the work of conversion , and all the first preparations to it , to his sole Grace , by which the will is first set free , then fitted and cultivated , and then the seed of eternal life successfully sowed in it . § . 84. If the Remonstrants yield not this , you see my profession of dissent from them , if they do , as for ought I ever heard or read ( which indeed hath been but little in their works , that I might reserve my self to judge of these things , without prepossession ) they doubt not to do , you see you have had them misrepresented to you . But this either way is extrinsecall and unconcernant to the merit of the cause , which is not to be defended or patronized by names ( but arguments ) much less to be prejudged or blasted by them . § . 85. You now add , as a reason to inforce your last proposition , That although the Grace of God work not by any physical determination of the will , but by way of moral suasion onely , and therefore in what degree soever supposed , must needs be granted ex natura rei possible to be resisted , yet God by his infinite wisdome can so sweetly order and attemper the outward means in such a congruous manner , and make such gracious inward applications and insinuations , by the secret imperceptible operation of his holy Spirit , into the hearts of his chosen , as that de sacto the will shall not finally resist . That ( you say ) of the son of Syrach , Fortiter & Suaviter , is an excellent Motto , and fit to be affixed , as to all the wayes of Gods providence in generall , so to this of the effectuall working of his Grace in particular . ] § . 86. This for the substance falls in with the last of those which you so cautiously set down for meer conjectures , seeming to you not improbable . And so here you continue to propose it , 1 , as that , which God can do , ( and thus no Christian can doubt of it ) 2. by the one testimony which you tender for the proof of it , the words of Ecclesiasticus [ strongly but sweetly ; ] which though it be there most probably interpreted of the works of Gods providence , not particularly of his Grace , so if it were , most fully expresses their thoughts , who building on the promise of sufficient Grace , and the way of the working of that by moral suasion , will apply the fortiter to the sufficiency , and the suaviter to the suasion , and yet resolve ( what frequent experience tells us ) that those that are thus wrought on , strongly and sweetly too , and as strongly and sweetly ( if not sometimes more so ) as they that are converted by it , are yet very ( very ) many times , not converted . § . 87. Here therefore the point lyes , not whether God can thus effectually work upon all that he tenders sufficient grace unto , nor again , whether sometimes ( and whensoever he pleaseth ) he doth thus work , ( for as this is the most that you demand , so this is most evident , and readily granted ) but 1. whether all are effectually converted and persevere , and so are finally saved , on whom God doth work thus sweetly and powerfully , attempering the outward and inward means , applications and insinuations , by the secret imperceptible operations of his spirit , and that in a congruous manner ( I add time also ) 2. Whether his doing thus is such an act of his Election , as that all to whom this is not done , shall be said in Scripture to be left , past by , and reprobated . § . 88. If thus it is , ( not onely can be ) and if it may be convincingly testified by any text of Scripture , that this really is the Scripture Election , it shall be most willingly and gladly yielded to : But till this be done , 1. that other Scheme , which I so lately set down , may be allowed to maintain it's competition against this , and 2. it is to be remembred from the premises , that the glory of Gods Grace in every one's conversion is abundantly taken care of , and secured , without the assistance of this : 3. that the ground of the Anti-remonstrants exception to the Arminian occurrs in this way of stating too , for since 't is here affirmed , that Grace even thus applyed is possible to be resisted , why may not the accepting this higher degree be as imputable to mans wil , as of the other barely sufficient Grace the objecter supposes it to be ? § . 89. Lastly , the saying of our Saviour Mat. xi . 21. is of no small moment in the case , and yields a substantial prejudice to this way . For 1. it is expresly affirmed vers . 20. of those Cities wherein were wrought 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 his most abundant powers or miracles , that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 they repented not ; His miracles I suppose had his grace annexed to them , and it is hard to believe that where his most numerous miracles were afforded , they should all want the advantage of the congruous timings to give them their due weight of efficacy : However there is no pretence of believing it here , where it is said , Christ 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 began to reproach and upbraid them , that the miracles had been so successless among them , which he could with no propriety do , if any circumstance needfull to their efficacy had been wanting to them : and v. 22. the more intolerable measure of damnation , which is denounced against them , puts this beyond question , that these wanted not the more superabundant advantages of Grace . Secondly , it is also as explicitly pronounced by Christ , that those miracles and that Grace which were not effectuall to the conversion of those Jewish cities , Chorazin and Bethsaida , would have been successful to the conversion of others , and made them Proselytes and penitents of the severest kind , in sackcloth and ashes . Whereupon I demand , Had those means , those miracles ( the instruments and vehicles of Grace , that were then used to Chorazin and Bethsaida ) the timings and other advantageous circumstances , which the opinion , now under consideration , pretends to be the infallible means of the salvation of the elect , or had they not ? If they had , then it seems these may fail of converting , and so have not that speciall efficacy , which is pretended , it being expresly affirmed , that here they succeeded not to conversion . But if they had not the timings &c. then it remains as undeniable , as the affirmation of Christ can render it , that those means , that Grace , which hath not those advantageous circumstances , may be , nay , if granted to Tyre and Sidon , heathen cities , would actually have been successfull to them . And what can be more effectuall to the prejudice of a conjecture , then this double force of the words of Christ confronted expresly to both branches of it ? And then I hope I may with modesty conclude , that there remains no visible advantage of this way , to recommend it , in case the Scripture be not found to own , and more then favour it in some other passages . § . 90. Your last Proposition on this Theme is , that Sith the Consistence of Grace and free will is a Mystery so transcending our weak understandings , that it hath for many years exercised and puzzled the wits of the acutest Schoolmen to find it out , insomuch as hundreds of volumes have been written and daily are de concursu Gratiae & liberi arbitrii , and yet no accord hath hitherto followed , you say , you have ever held , and still do hold it the more pious and safe way , to place the Grace of God in the throne , where we think it should stand , and so to leave the will of man to shift for the maintenance of its own freedome , as well as it can , then to establish the power and liberty of free will at the height , and then to be at a loss how to maintain the power and efficacy of Gods Grace , ] § . 91. But if what hath been clearly laid down , for the attributing all our spirituall good to the work of Grace , and assuming nothing of this kind to the innate power of free will , but a liberty to resist Grace , the rest being humbly acknowledged to be due to a supernaturally conferred freedome , or emancipation , whereby we are enabled to make use of Grace , and by the power thereof to cooperate with it ; Then 1. the consistence of grace and free will in this sense , is no such transcending Mystery , and I think there is no text in Scripture that sounds any thing towards the making it so . 2. 'T is evident , that the difficulties that have exercised the Schools in this matter arise from their endeavouring to state it otherwise , some by maintaining Predetermination and irresistibility , which all the powers of nature cannot reconcile with Man's free wil ad oppositum ; And some few that go another milder way , are yet afraid of departing too far from the former , and instead of irresistibility substitute efficacy , as that signifies infallibility of the event to the Elect , and so find difficulty to extricate themselves ; whereas Grace sufficient , but resistible , given together with the word to all , to whom Christ is revealed , hath 1. it self nothing of difficulty in the conception , and 2. being understood , utterly removes all farther difficulty in this matter . For hereby we place the Grace of God in the throne , to rule and reign in the whole work of conversion , perseverance , and salvation , ( and what can be more demanded , that we have not asserted ? certainly nothing by you , who in setting down the consent of all parties , exprest it by no more then its having the main stroke and chiefest operation ) and need not put the will of man to shift for the maintenance of its own freedome , as long as we can do it with much more safety and temper , then either by setting it at the height with the Pelagians , or endangering to convert it into a meer trunk , or leaving men to the duct of their own humours , either to advance it above its due , and grow insolent , or depresse it below what is meet , and so give up themselves to sloth , and indifferency . § . 92. On the third or last head concerning Grace and perseverance , your propositions are three , the two former I shall set down together , because the first is but a preparative to , or one way of proof of the second , which onely concerns our purpose . I. That Faith and all holy Graces inherent in us , Love , Patience , and Humility , &c. are the gifts of God wrought in us by his Grace and holy Spirit , none will deny ; But that they are wrought in us by infusion and in instanti ( as Philosophers teach forms to be introduced into the matter by naturall generation in instanti , ) at least that they are alwayes or ordinarily so infused , you see no necessity of believing , or why it may not be said of these 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ( spirituall Graces ) notwithstanding they be acknowledged the gifts of God , as well as of those 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ( spirituall gifts , as we translate them ) which are certainly the gifts of God as well as the other , and so acknowledged ; that they are ( after the manner of other habits ) ordinarily acquirable by industry and frequented acts , and the blessing of God upon our prayers and endeavours . To what purpose els were it for Ministers in their Sermons usually to press motives to stir up men to labour to get Faith , Love , &c. and to propose means for their better direction , how to get them ? II. Whence ( you say ) it seemeth to you further probable , that Faith and all other inherent Graces , as they may be with Gods blessing attain'd , may be also lost again by sloth , negligence , and carnall security , and therefore you cannot but doubt of the truth of that assertion which the Contra-remonstrants do yet averre with great confidence , That Faith once had , cannot be lost , and other the like . The distinction that they use , as a salvo in this Question , of a true and temporary Faith , signifieth ( say you ) little or nothing , for it at once both beggeth and yieldeth the whole Question : It 1. beggeth the question , when it denyeth that Faith that may be lost , to be true Faith , and withall 2. yieldeth the question , when it granteth a temporary Faith , which term is capable of no other construction , then of such a Faith , as being once had is afterwards lost . It is one of the Articles of our Church , that after we have received the holy Ghost , we may depart from Grace given . ] § . 93. In these two there is nothing for me to question , and as little to add to them , unless I annex , what I suppose you did not think needfull , the express consent of Scriptures and Fathers , whereon our Churches Article must be resolved to have been founded . In the old Testament the examples of the Angels in Heaven , of Adam in Paradise , and in a remarkable manner of two to whom God had given eminent testimony , 1. David , in the matter of Vriah , an odious murther added to adultery , and continued in impenitently , till after the birth of the child , the blemish whereof still sticks to him , and remains upon record , as an allay to all his excellencies , now that he is in heaven . 2 , Solomon , whose heart was by his multitude of wives and concubines taken off from God , and debauched to Idols , no way being left us to discern whether ever he returned or no , unless his Ecclesiastes be a declaration and fruit of his Repentance ; And as these and many other examples , even of that whole Old-Testament-church , the Jews , make this evident , so the words of Ezekiel are express both for totall and finall falling away . If the righteous turn from his righteousness , in his unrighteousness shall he die . § . 94. The new also is parallel , in the example of Peter , thrice , with time of deliberation between , and after express warning from Christ , and his resolute promise to the contrary , denying and abjuring of Christ , whose return from this fall with bitter tears , is called by Christ Conversion , and the sin upbraided to him thrice after his resurrection , Simon , son of Jonas lovest thou me more then these ? in reference to his confident undertaking , though all men should deny thee , or be offended , yet will not I. And if the argument from Christs express words , formerly produced , be of force , then is Judas ( one of those that was by God given to Christ , and came unto , and believed on him ) an example of the blackest sort , testifying to this sad truth , That a believer and Disciple of Christ may betray him to his Crucifixion , and die in desperation , § . 95. To these two instances , the former greatly aggravated with circumstances , the latter finall , and of the highest degree imaginable , It is not needfull to add more , els it is obvious to increase the catalogue with those that were polluted by the Gnosticks , by name , Hymenaeus and Alexander , who putting away a good conscience , concerning Faith made shipwrack , and again Hymenaeus and Philetus , who fell off so far , as to the denyall of any future Resurrection , of whom the Apostle there speaking , saith , if God peradventure will give them repentance , and they may recover themselves out of the snare of the Devil ] looking on their estate as that of lapsed believers , and though not utterly hopeless , yet extremely dangerous , And this exemplified in whole Churches , Apoc. ii . and iii. which are therefore threatned present destruction , if they do not speedily return . § . 96. To which purpose the Texts in the sixth and tenth to the Hebrews are unanswerable , In the sixth , that it is impossible , i. e. extremely difficult , for those that were once enlightned , &c. if they fall away , to renew them again unto repentance , adding the similitude of the reprobate earth , whose end is to be burned . From which how distant is the Doctrine of those , that either imagine it impossible for such to fall away totally , or if they are fallen away , not to be renewed again to repentance ? In the tenth also , t were vain to make so severe interminations against those who sin willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth , ( as we read v. 26. ) if there were no possibility of so sinning , but especially the 38. verse is remarkable , The just shall live by faith , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , And if he ( the just ) shall draw back , my soul hath no pleasure in him ] explicating v. 39. what drawing back he speaks of , even drawing back unto perdition , and that is finall , as well as totall , and both , it seems , very possible , as every where appears by the exhortations to him that thinketh he standeth , to take heed lest he fall , when if he do , It had been better never to have known the way of righteousness , then after he hath known it , to turn from the holy Commandment , and this in such a degree , as is exprest by returning to the vomit , and wallowing in the mire , the acts and habits of the foulest sins , in forsaking of which their conversion consisted . § . 97. The Testimonies of the Fathers are too long to be set down , and indeed unnecessary to the confirmation of that , to which the Scripture hath testified so plentifully , especially since it is not ( it cannot be ) denyed by the contrary-minded , that Saint Augustine , the onely fautor of their cause , in the point of decrees , and effectuall Grace , granteth possibility of falling , both totally and finally , from a justified estate , and useth it as a means to prove his absolute Decrees . I now proceed to your third and last proposition in these words , § . 98. Yet I believe wee may securely admit the doctrine of perseverance of Gods elect , and the certainty thereof , so as it be understood . 1. Of their finall perseverance onely , leaving roome for great ( perhaps totall ) interruptions and intercisions in the meane time . 2. Of the certainty of the thing , ( certitudo objecti , ) in regard of the knowledge , and purpose of God , but , not of any undoubted assurance , that the elect themselves have thereof , ( certitudo subjecti , as wee use to distinguish them , ) there being a great deale of difference between these two propositions , it is certain that the elect shall not fall away finally , and the elect are certain that they shall not fall away finally . ] § . 99. In this proposition I can fully yeild my concurrence , if by rendering my reasons for my consent , I may be allowed to expresse what I mean by it . This I shall do through the severall branches of it . 1. I believe not onely that securely we may , but that of necessity ( and under the pain of contradiction in adjecto , ) we must admit the doctrine of Perseverance of Gods Elect , and the certainty , ( most unquestionable certainty ) thereof , Gods Election of any person to the reward of the covenant , being undoubtedly founded in the perseverance of that person in the faith , this perseverance being the expresse condition of the covenant , He that endureth to the end , the same shall be saveá , he and none but he , but if he draw back , Gods soule hath no pleasure in him . § . 100. Which that it is nothing available toward concluding that they which can fall totally from their justified state , may not yet fall finally also , I infer to be your sence from your great dislike to the Calvinists Salvo , taken from the distinction of a true and temporary faith , which assures me , you take that faith for true , which yet is but temporary , then which nothing is more contrary to the establishing the perseverance of all the faithfull , unlesse there be some promise that all temporaries shall so recover again before their death , as finally to persevere , ( which as I think , 't will not be pretended , so if it be , they are no longer temporaries , ) or unlesse it cease to be in their power to continue in their sins , into which they are fallen , which sure it cannot , unlesse the grace of perseverance be irresistible , which if it were , there is no reason , why that of conversion , to all that are converted , should not be irresistible also . § . 101. 2. For their great , ( perhaps totall ) interruptions and intercisions in the meane time , I can no way doubt , but those are subject to them , who yet upon Gods foresight of their returne , and persevering constancy at length , are elected to salvation . It is certain , which the Article of our Church saith , that as they which have received the holy Ghost may depart from grace given and fall away , so by the same grace of God they may returne again , and then returning they may no doubt persevere , and then 't is certain they are elected to salvation , the mercy and pardon in Christ extending not onely to the sins of an unregenerate state , and the infirmities and frailties of the regenerate ; but also to all the willfull sins and falls of those that do timely returne again by repentance , as David and Peter did ( but Judas certainly , Solomon possibly did not , ) and then continue stedfast unto the end . And so 't is onely the finall perseverance that is required indispensably of the elect , which is reconcileable with their great , perhaps totall intercisions . § . 102. But 't is not amiss here to advert , that this doth no more suppose or include the reconciliation or favour of God , to those that have been once regenerate , when they are fallen into grosse sins , then to the unregenerate remaining in the same or greater sinns , it being as possible in respect of us , ( perhaps more probable in respect of God , ) that the unregenerate may convert and persevere , ( and then they are approved to be the elect , ) as that they that were once regenerate , but now fallen , may return again . It is as certain from before Paul's birth , and from all eternity , that he was elected , as that David or Peter was , and then either his blasphemous persecuting the name of Christ must have been at the time when he was guilty of that , reconcileable with Gods favour , viz. before his conversion , ( and then for the gaining of Gods savour what needed his conversion ? ) or else Peter's denying and abjuring of Christ , Davids adultery and murther must not be reconcileable , notwithstanding their supposed Election . For as to the sonship of their former life , that will no more excuse their contrary wasting sins , then the future sonship of the other , nay it will set the advantage on the other side , the unconverted Saul obtaines mercy , because he did it ignorantly , in unbelief , Whilst their sins have the aggravation of being sins against grace , and forsaking , and departing from God , which respect makes the state of Apostates as the most unexcusable , so the most desperately dangerous state . § . 103. 3. That there is a Certitudo Objecti to all the Elect , cannot be doubted , for if they be elected to salvation , they will finally persevere , if they persevere not , they were not elected . Again this certainty of the object , is a certainty in regard of the knowledge and purpose of God , 1. Of his knowledge that either they will not fall , or if they do , that they will rise again , and then finally persevere . 2. Of his purpose or decree of election , that every such , finally persevering , though formerly lapsed Christian , shall be saved . § . 104. 4. For the Certitudo subjecti ; as I consent to you fully in disclaiming any necessity of that , so I suppose it is wholly extrinsecall to this subject , devolving to this other question , not whether every one that is elect , be sure he shall not fall away , but whether every believer be or ought to be sure of his election ? Of which if he were sure , I could not resist his being obliged to believe himself certain of his finall Perseverance ; Election and finall failing being incompetible . § . 105. Having given you this interpretation of my sence , and so consent to each branch of your proposition , I have no more to add , but that if you mean it in a farther sence , proportionable to your former conjecture on the head of decrees , of Bishop Overall's opinion , I shall no otherwise debate or question it , then I did that , and so the fate of this and that , are folded up the one in the other , and if the Scripture shall be found favourable to the one , it shall be yeilded , and then there will be no controversy of the other . § . 106. Onely I desire to add , that it will deserve our speciall care and warinesse , so to deliver our thoughts in this matter , that we leave no man any ground of hope , that in case he depart from his duty , and so fall from Grace , or into any willful act or habit of sin , he shall yet be so preserved , whether by Gods Grace , or by his power , and providence , that he shall not finally dye without repentance : for as there is no promise of God to found that hope , so in time of temptation to any pleasurable , transporting sin , &c. it will be in danger to betray and ruine him , that hath a good opinion of himself , especially if he hath been taught , that faith is a full assurance of his Election . § . 107. The same I say of Grace , as it signifies the paternall favour of God to his Elect children , which is thought by some to be onely clouded , and , as to their sense and present experience and comfort , darkned by their most willfull sins , so as God may be highly displeased with them , as David with his son Absolom , and yet continue his paternall Love and favour to them , as David did his to that ungracious son , in the height of his Rebellion . § . 108. 'T is possible this Example of David may have some Rhetoricall Energy in it , to perswade and deceive some . If it have , then 1. I may not unfitly ask this question , whether they think God had then that kindness to Absolom that David had ? If he had not , how can it be drawn into example to God ? If he had , how then can it agree with it , to cut him off in the midst of his Rebellion , which 't is manifest David would not have done . But omitting that , I answer 2. that 't is visible , that this in David was passionate indulgence , such as men ( as Joab tells him ) disliked , and to this kind of humane passionate , I oppose that other kind of Divine dispassionate love , producing in God bowels of pity , frequent admonitions and warnings , powerfull Messages , strong and earnest calls , and proposition of all rationall motives to repentance . But if those prevail not , the just still continuing to draw back , Gods soul hath no pleasure in him , and the greater obligations of Love and Grace they are , against which he hath sinn'd , the greater the provocations are in the sight of God , and nothing consequently but the greater degree of punishment to be expected . How God is affected toward rebellious sons is set down Is . 1. 2 , 10 , 11 , 12 , &c. § . 109. And then to put any man in hope , that what is not ordinarily revealed in the Gospel , may yet be laid up for him in the cabinet of Gods secret counsels with this seal upon it , The Lord knoweth those that are his , as if they might be his still in Gods acceptation , which walk most contrarily to him , this may prove a most dangerous snare of souls , and it is strange it should seek shelter in that Text 2. Tim. 2. 19. which was most expresly designed to the contrary , as is evident both by the notation of the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in the beginning of the verse , which in all probability signifies the Covenant of God , the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 stability whereof , there prest , must assure us that there is no salvation to be expected , but according to the contents of that great indenture , once for all sealed in the blood of Christ , of which as that indeed is one part , which is inscribed on one side of the seal [ The Lord knoweth those that are his ] i. e. he will never fail to own those that continue faithfull to him ; so the other , on the other side , is most emphatical , [ Let every man that nameth the name of Christ , depart from iniquity ] which if he do not , he hath forfeited all the Priviledges of his Christianity . § . 110. The Gnostick heresie , one branch of it especially , noted in Marcus's Scholars , in Irenaeus , is a seasonable warning to all sober Christians in this matter , He told them of an 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , a redemption , or kind of Baptism , which rendered them 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , naturally and immutably spirituall , no more to be polluted by sin , then gold by lying in the mire , or the Sun beams by lighting on a dunghill , and that whatever they did , they should ( as with the helmet of the mother of the Gods ) be rendred 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , invisible to the Judge , The effects whereof , as to all carnality , &c. were so detestable , that it becomes every man most sollicitously to guard and secure his Schemes of Election and Doctrine of Perseverance of the Elect , from all probability , if not possibility , of ministring to the like , and that cannot well be by any other method of resolution , but this , that those that persevere unto the end shall be saved , and none els ; our tenure in all the Priviledges of Election , 1. Gods favour , 2. the continuall assistance of his Grace , and 3. the inheritance of sons , being inseparably relative and annext to the constant filiall obedience , which he indispensably requires of us , under the Gospel of conditionall promises . § . 111. Thus have I past through all your Letter and given my self the liberty of these strictures , by way of reflexion on all and every passage therein , which belonged to this subject of God's Decrees and his Grace ; And without the addition of any unnecessary recapitulation of the severalls , it is already evident , how perfect the agreement is between us in all that you in any degree positively assert , or own as your opinion : And if in one particular which you are so carefull to propose , as a bare conjecture , and not allow it your favour in any other quality , it should happen that we finally dissent ( though in propriety of speech conjectures are not sentiments ) yet it were strange the dispute betwixt us should be of any length . And so you discern the utmost of uneasiness , which is likely to be given you by this address of Dear Sir Your most affectionate brother and servant H. HAMMOND . A Second LETTER , BEING A View of two Emergent Difficultyes . Deare Sir , THe very freindly reception which my larger trouble found from you , is my full encouragement to proceed to the conclusion of my importunity and your exercise , which cannot now be far off , if I may judge by your Letter . § . 2. Two difficultyes , you say , you have sprung by farther entring into the consideration of this matter , the first occasioned by my distinction betwixt the worke of Grace and of Providence , the second arising from the Concessions of Scripture of Gods withdrawing his grace from those that reject it . § . 3. To those I shall make these returnes , which I doubt not will prove satisfactory . The first seemeth to favour an 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or suspence , and to avert all defining in these points : For , say you , since the efficacy of Divine grace followeth the acts of his Providence , so as it may seem in a manner to depend chiefly thereupon , and the wayes of his providence are abyssus multa , deep and unfathomable , it seemeth to you to conclude strongly that the manner how God effectually worketh by his grace to the conversion of a sinner is also to our understandings incomprehensible . ] To this you cannot but foresee my reply , that the proposall of that distinction was by me designed as a prejudice to Bishop Overal's way , which you had then mentioned as your conjecture . And if it shall have indeed that influence upon you or any man , as you speake of , to encrease the difficulty , and to conclude strongly , that the manner of Gods working , &c. is incomprehensible ; yet you know this cannot in justice be applyed farther then to that particular Scheme , against which peculiarly this disadvantage was proposed , and then the onely regular conclusion is , that this which you proposed but as a conjecture , should now grow lower in your esteem , and scarce be thought worthy to be own'd as such . § . 4. And the more force there is in this one consideration , thus to incline you , the lesse shall I despair , that two more considerations , which then encompassed this , and the superadded tender of another way , that the Scripture-grounds , especially Christ's parables in the Gospel , suggested , will in some degree prevaile with you , to deposite this conjecture , which ( beside other prejudices against it , ) hath no grounds of Scripture to pretend to , in exchange for that other , that hath , and pretends no further , then it shall approve it selfe to be thus founded . § . 5. This is all that I may say to an objection which I was to cherish and strengthen , ( rather then answer . ) But I shall not think that needfull , onely I leave it to have that force with you , which you shall see fit to give it , remembring onely that it ought not to have force with him , that accepts not that Scheme , that alone is concerned in it . § . 6. Which Scheme having been proposed by you with perfect warinesse , and profession of allowing it to be no more then a conjecture , one such difficulty as this , is , I acknowledge , sufficient to remove you from it , and in that case it will not be unseasonable again to tender that which you may finde better qualified for your acceptance , having without question an advantage , from the parable of the sower , to recommend it . I shall endeavour to make this cleare to you . Your supposed intricacy , or unfathomable question , is , what it is that makes sufficient grace to be effectuall to any ? I say the parable of the sower was intended by Christ on purpose to answer that question , which it hath competently performed , for here wee see , the seed being the same , ( whether that were the word , or grace , it matters not , as long as 't is remembred that the word is the vehicle of grace , and the instrument of conveighing it to the heart , ) all the difference taken notice of , is onely in the soyle , viz : some troden down , and crusted ; some stony ; some thorny ; some good , and mellow . Proportionably to this four-fold difference of the ground , the severall fates of the seed are described , and your one question divided into four , and answer exactly accommodated to each . § . 7. The first question is this , what is it that makes sufficient grace , uneffectuall , to some men , so that though it be on Gods part freely afforded them , and as freely as to any other , yet it hath not the least effect upon them ? And the answer is evident in the explanation of that parable , Mat. XIII . 19. because he is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , one that heares the word , to which that grace is annexed , but either understands it not , or minds it not ; and so the Divil comes and catcheth away that which was sown , ( and in that case there is no great need of that Divil towards the obstructing effectuallness , let the seed ly there never so long , if it be not minded , it can signifie nothing toward an harvest . ) § . 8. The second question is , what is it that makes sufficient Grace , after it is received , and that with joy , ( great forwardness and alacrity at the first ) to become so uneffectuall to the supporting a man in time of temptation , that rather then endure any smart for piety , he falls into any the grossest sins ? And the answer follows v. 21. because such a man is of a temper that yields not Grace any depth to root in , he hath some stonyness at the bottome , some pleasure , or passion , or other remains of resistance rooted in him , which he hath not divested himself of , and when duty begins any way to check that , he is impatient , and throws off Piety , of which he made very fair professions , and such as had , as far as his trialls formerly went , reality in them , till this last signall tryall was made of him , for which , it seems by the effect , he was not qualified . § . 9. The third question is , what is the reason that sufficient Grace , once received and bringing forth fruits , though it come not to combat with any sharp tryalls , doth yet many times decay and perish after a while ? And the answer is v. 22. that there remained in the heart of such some piece of ill temper unreformed , which in time prolified , and sent out great and wasting sins ( though not so generally decryed in the world ) viz. worldly sollicitudes , and such as the wealth of the world is apt to beget in men that have or seek it , and these being permitted to thrive in the soul , 't is regular that Grace , which cannot consist with such ( you cannot serve God and Mammon ) should be overrun , and choaked , and at length destroyed by that means , which had it not been for this cause of abortion , as it was sufficient , and effectuall for a while , so it would have prosper'd to perseverance . § . 10. And this introduceth the fourth and last question , What then is it that renders sufficient Grace Effectuall both to Conversion and Perseverance ? And the Answer is v. 23. the goodness of the soile , probity of the heart , wherein that sufficient Grace is received , and what that is , is best discerned by the opposition to all the former three , 1. it is a sincerely pliable , ductile temper , that neglects not to make use of any grain of Grace , 2. it hath an uniform Courage to combat with difficulties , and is not enslaved to pleasures . 3. it utterly despises the world , the allurements and the terrors of it , and uses it , as if it used it not . The former part of this temper renders it effectuall to conversion , the two latter to perseverance also . And considering that parable is set down by Christ to give account of the various successes of the word of the kingdome , i. e. of the Gospel among all those to whom it is made known , who with you are the adaequate object of the Scripture-election , and reprobation , what can be farther required to the clear satisfaction of your whole difficulty ? § . 11. And then remembring that the onely remaining question , viz. whence is this probity ? hath been fully answered in the former papers , I appeal to no other then your self , whether this be not both a perspicuous , and authorized stating , having so weighty a passage of Gospel to found it , and therefore in all justice preferrable to your bare Conjecture , which , besides that it is pressed with difficulties ( as your self acknowledge ) which to you seem unanswerable , is not provided of any pretense of a foundation , hath no authority from holy Scripture to recommend it . § . 12. If it have any , it is most probably that other short parable in the same Chapter , v. 44. where the kingdome of God is compared to a treasure hid in the field , the which when a man hath found , he hideth , &c. There the man , which found the treasure , is not supposed to seek it ( for that makes another parable v. 45. ) but by the meer providence of God ( which the heathen Philosophers were wont to stile chance , and commonly give this very instance of it the treasure found in the field , ) happily to fall upon it , when he passeth by on some other errand ; And this indeed is matter of frequent observation , Augustine is converted by S. Ambrose's Sermon , when he came to it on no such design , Saul is called to from heaven , and converted to Christianity , when he was going to Damascus on the most distant design of persecuting it . And to omit the many more examples of those of whom it hath been litterally true , that they have found God , when they sought him not , asked not after him , one eminent story our books give us , of two young children brought to a city to be sold , at a time when a devout Nun had vowed to take some young child , and bestow her whole life , and utmost industry to bring it up in strict piety , and accordingly came and bought one of them , and assoon as she had bought her , a bawd came in her presence and bought the other , by which means these two , which were so lately in the very same indifferent condition , by this act of Divine providence ( to which this was to be attributed ) were strangely discriminated , the one brought up and early engaged , and so persevering to the lives end in all piety , and the other by the contrary discipline debauched , and educated to the trade of harlotry , wherein she lived and persevered . In which it is visible how signal an influence this one act of Divine Providence had on so distant eternall fates of these two , and how eminent an ingredient it was in the saving the one and damning the other . § . 13. But from all these and innumerable the like , ( which are freely granted , and allowed to be competent to confirm your main conclusion , that the Providence of God is Abyssus multa ) you will soon discern , that there comes in no least advantage to that Learned Bishops Scheme , which is the matter of your Conjecture , and our onely present enquiry . The whole weight of that ( as far as I , or any man questions it ) being laid , not on the superabundance afforded to one above the other , ( which is willingly granted ) but on the foreseen universall inefficaciousness of the barely sufficient Grace , acknowledged to be given to all , till that superadded advantage administred by Gods providence in the choice of the congruous timing , come in , as the work of Gods Election , to make the discrimination . § . 14. Now seeing in all these examples , and in that parable , nothing like this is to be found , no evidence , or intimation of Gods foreseeing , 1. that that man that found the treasure , would never have been wrought on by that measure of sufficient Grace , which that opinion allows God formerly to have afforded him , unless by that seasonable act of Providence he had thus faln on the treasure in the parable , or 2. that Augustine would never have been converted , if he had not been surprized by S. Ambrose's Sermon , or 3. that Saul would not have been converted at another time , without , or even with that vision , and voice from heaven , or lastly that that fortunate child , that fell into the Nun's , instead of the bawd's hands , would never have been brought to heaven any other way , and could not have miscarried under this method : Through all these instances , I say , it is still apparent , that nothing is gained toward the approving the Conjecture , these advantageous turns of providence afforded one man and not another , and the signall efficacy of such , being most freely granted by those who deem the Conjecture improbable . § . 15. And indeed , if it be well considered , all that these , and a myriad of the like instances infer , is no more then this , the great and admirable variety of Gods providentiall acts , not as those are all one with , but as in his hands they are instrumentall and subservient to his Grace , whereby in diverse manners grace is advantageously assisted by providence , to one in this wise , and admirable manner , to another in that ; No man , who is allowed the sufficient Grace , being denyed some benefit or other of Providence to assist Grace , and make it more then probable to become effectuall to him , if he doth not betray and frustrate the opportunities of the one , as well as the power and efficacy of the other . § . 16. So that still acknowledging most willingly , and admiring the abyss of Providence , this no way obstructs the comprehending the manner ( or perplexes the doctrine ) of the cooperation of the Grace of God with the will of man , but leaves it where the Parable of the Sower set it , that the efficacy of Grace , and successfulness , whether to conversion , or perseverance proceeds from the mellowness , and preparedness of the soile , from the advantages which it meets with in the honest heart , as that again is wholly due to Gods preventing Graces , which have thus fitted the soile for the kindly seeds-time , planted pliableness , humility in the heart , where Grace may be deeply and durably rooted , but this still resistibly in both parts , as hath formerly been exprest . § . 17. One phansie I know there is , which hath pleased some men in this matter , that God gives sufficient Grace to those who do not make use of it , but resist it , and yet more then so , the power of using , or accepting , or not resisting it , but gives to the Elect and onely to the Elect , ipsam non resistentiam , the very not resisting , and this they will have to be the signal discriminating Grace . § . 18. Of these I shall demand 1. whether in those which have not this ipsam non-resistentiam given them , this be an effect of God's Decree , which hath determined the certain infallible giving it to some peculiar persons , and so the not giving it to all others ? If it be not , then this is no foundation of discriminating Grace , or consequently fruit of Election and Reprobation , and so is still impertinent to the matter for which it is brought . § . 19. But if it be the effect of Gods Decree , determining the giving it to some , and denying it to others , I then 2. demand , whether all they to whom it is not given , do therefore infallibly receive the grace of God in vain , because they have not this ipsa non-resistentia ( which is more then the power of not resisting ) given them ? § . 20. If this be not affirmed , then , as before , this comes not home to discriminating Grace , nor consequently to the business of Election and Reprobation , which it was meant to assist . But if it shall be said , that they therefore infallibly resist , or receive in vain , because this ipsa non-resistentia is not given them , then it seems this gift of ipsa non-resistentia is such , as that they who have it not , want somewhat which is necessary to their effectuall receiving , or not-resisting Grace , and if this be the condition of the far greatest part of the world , then how can it with any sincerity be affirmed ( as by those that make use of this expedient , it is profest ) that God hath to all mankind given Christ , and in him all things , and particularly Grace sufficient , and the power of not-resisting Grace , which according to this phansie , none can choose but resist , who have not the ipsam non-resistentiam given them , which yet they affirm to be given but to a few , i. e. to none but the elect ? § . 21. This were ( by interpretation , and in effect ) for God to give to all men a power to an act , which yet the greatest part of those which have it given them , can never make use of to that act , for want of somewhat else which is not given them , which to all them which have not that somewhat else given ( and those the far greatest number of men for whom Christ dyed ) is not a power to that act , viz. of not-resisting ; which what is it other then a direct contradiction , a power and not a power to the same act ? and withall so far from being a favour to them , that it is in event infallibly and inevitably the greatest curse , that could have befaln them , viz. the heightening and extreamly aggravating of their guilt and punishment , proportionably to their sin of resisting such sufficient grace , of standing out against Christ , which as it is the height of guilt , ( and awarded the dregs of Gods wrath , ) now under the Gospel , and makes their condition in the world to come , much worse , then it would have been , if Christ had never been borne , or preached to them , so it had never been thus direfully charged upon them , if they had not had the power of not resisting given them by Christ . § . 22. This is a competent prejudice and discouragement to this phansy , of founding discriminating grace and the doctrine of unconditionate decrees in this difference betwixt the power of resisting , and the ipsa non-resistentia , the latter given onely to the Elect. § . 23. But it will farther be defeated , if we reflect on that place of Scripture , wherein Gods giving the ipsa non-resistentia chiefly seems to be mentioned , Phil. II. 13. under the style of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , working in us to do , or work , which that it tends not to the support or advantage of this phansy may be evident by these three considerations . § . 24. First , by the importance of the phrase , [ working in us to do , as before to will , ] which ( as was formerly noted , in passing , ) will best be understood by other parallel phrases , as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , Gods giving to serve , Luke . 1. 72. Which is evidently his giving grace , or power , or supernatural abilities to serve , not onely furnishing him with a remote , and fundamentall power , or faculty , but withall having a particular immediate influence on the effect , actuating that power , when it is actuated , and so properly causing , or making him actually to serve , yet so as to leave him power also to neglect , and receive that power in vain , as the Scripture elsewhere saith ; Thus Revel . xi . 3. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I will give , wee render , I will give power , viz. power to the subsequent act , prophecying there , as in Luke , serving in holynesse . By which analogy it is evident , that Gods working in us to do , or work , is not interpretable to any more , then his giving supernaturall power , or sufficient grace to do , or worke , and causing him actually , though not irresistibly to work , and then here is no pretense whereon to found the foresaid difference , between God's giving the power of not resisting , and the ipsa non-resistentia , these two being equivalent in this Text. § . 25. Secondly , the same appeareth by the Apostles exhortation foregoing in this Text , to worke and worke out our own salvation with feare and trembling , for the inforcing whereof this reason is given , for it is God that worketh , &c. Here our own working is under Apostolical exhortation and precept , wee are commanded to worke , as elsewhere 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to cooperate , and worke together with God , which could not have place , if God alone , ( and not wee , ) did work in us the very working , whereas interpreting it of Gods giving us the power of working , or doing , as well as of willing , and withall engaging us to make use of that power , and cooperating with us in the very act , and so causing us actually to work , yet so as to leave us a power of resisting , and frustrating , and receiving this power or grace in vain , this is a most proper and effectuall inforcement of the exhortation addrest to us , to work and work out our own salvation . § . 26. This farther and most irrefragably appeares by the persons , to whom both the exhortation , and this enforcement thereof is tendred , viz : the brethren indefinitely , or beloved , verse . 12. the whole Church of Professors at Philippi to whom he writes , which being not made up wholly of the elect , sincere , and persevering Christians , but like the net , in Christ's parable , that caught both good and bad , and had no doubt some insincere persons , hypocrites , and temporaryes in it , the affirmation notwithstanding is indiscriminately of all , God worketh in them to work , which could not hold , if by this phrase were meant his giving the ipsa non-resistentia , and that as an evidence of discriminating grace , and an effect of his Election , for this is not supposable to have belonged to that whole Church , any more then it then did , or now is believed to do to all Christians . § . 27. I have enlarged thus far , because I was not willing to omit , but rather to prevent whatsoever I could foresee might probably be objected in this businesse . And so this may suffice to have returned to your first difficulty . § . 28. The second difficulty you thus propose , Whereas it is said , and that , ( as you conceive , ) most truly and agreably to plain evidence of Scripture , that God withdraweth his grace from such as rejecting it when it is offered to them by the preaching of the Gospel , do thereby frustrate the Counsell of God against themselves , it seemeth hard to conceive how the grace of God should be so withdrawn from them , that so do , but that , so long as they are not deprived of the outward means , the same sufficient grace that was offered to them at the first hearing of the Gospel , is offered to them still ; which if it was then sufficient on God's part , to do the work , is also still sufficient , and that in the same degree , and how then can it be said to be withdrawn ? It is true that the conversion of such a person , after so long obstinacy and refusall is more difficult then before , which may arise from the greater indisposition of the person to be wrought upon , but how it can be imputed in the least , to the withdrawing of the divine grace , ( to which yet undoubtedly it may and ought to be imputed , ) upon the former supposall on the like sufficiency remaining , I must professe my self not able to understand . ] § . 29. To this I shall not doubt to apply a satisfactory answer , and such as you will acknowledge to be such , by distinguishing of Gods withdrawing his grace . For , 1. it being Gods method to give more grace to those that walk worthy of it , the humble obedient children of grace , when he on our provocations stops that current , this may be called withdrawing . God's smitings are his admonitions , ( heare ye the Rod , ) his admonitions , as any other dispensation of his word are vehicles of grace , and when these prevaile not , they are thus withdrawn , i. e. not farther encreased , ( why should yee be smitten any more , &c. Is . 1. ) Yet is this withdrawing consistent with Gods affording sufficient grace , either by instruments of some other kinde , or even of the same kinde , the continuance of that proportion , which was formerly afforded ; as he that gives a competency , and would if he saw it well used , daily make additions to it , though he see cause to with-hold those additions , yet he may continue that competency . But in propriety of speech , ( the truth is , ) this is rather with-holding , then withdrawing , yet because the not giving what was promised to be given is tantamount to withdrawing , I therefore place this in the first ranke , supposing it cleare , that this doth not onely leave sufficient grace ; but is it self designed to awaken and quicken those that did not formerly make good use of it , Lest a worse thing yet befall them . § . 30. Secondly , then withdrawing being taken in the proper sense , for taking away from and diminishing the stock , before afforded , that may yet be but in part , not totall , and there being a latitude in sufficient grace , some degrees of that may be taken away , and yet that which remaines be sufficient , an image of which is that degree of Church-censures , which cutting off from the participation of the Eucharist , or suspending from it , allowes the hearing of the word , and partaking in the prayers of the faithfull , And this act of Gods withdrawing , again is so far from denying sufficient grace , that it is purposely used and designed , as the most probable means to make that sufficient grace effectuall , which formerly had not been so . § . 31. There may yet be a third , and yet further degree of withdrawing , which at the present , and as to sufficient grace , may be said to be totall , i. e. such a withdrawing of grace at the present , that it shall truly be said such a man is not now allowed sufficient for his necessities , whether it be that his necessities are grown greater , and so the former competency will not suffice , or be it also , that some of that which he had is withdrawn , as when he that for some time had no violent temptations , and was furnished with strength proportionable to what he had , upon his betraying this strength , and sinning willfully against it , is by God called out to sharper combats , having been foiled with the weaker , and perhaps some part of his former strength withdrawn from him also , when he hath most need of succours , and should certainly have had them , had he not thus provoked the withholding them . In this case the aime of this punishment of Gods is yet most wise and mercifull , thus to convince such a man of his guilts , and impotence , ( the effect of them , ) and so as by turning Nebuchadnezzar into the field , thorowly to humble him , to excite ardency of prayers , both for pardon , and grace , which God in that case failes not to give , and so to restore such a man to a greater stability of his former state . § . 32. And so still this is neither finall , nor simply totall , as that signifies withdrawing all grace , but onely totall for a time in the sence declared , as it signified the withdrawing what was necessary to their present state . § . 33. And I need not shew you how far this is reconcileable with sufficient grace , any farther then thus , that such an one though severely mulcted hath yet time for repentance and grace to make some use of it , which if he failes not in , he hath assurance of more grace , and this demonstrated to be so , by his not being cut off in his sins , ( Gods long-suffering leading him to repentance , ) and by the light of Gods word , and articulation of his calls dayly continued to him , which are not void of that grace , which is sufficient to work conviction , and hath the promise of more , ( upon asking , ) made to him that is thus qualified for it . § . 34. Fourthly , there is the removing the candlestick , the withdrawing all the outward ordinary means of Grace , the preaching of the Word and Sacraments , which if it be done by the censures of the Church , is called the delivering up to Satan , or if it be done by Gods judgements , invasion of barbarians , &c. it is yet to those persons that are thus punished , perfectly proportionable to that of the Church-censures . And yet of those it is said expresly by the Apostle , that the end of inflicting them is for edification , that they may be disciplined , taught not to blaspheme . This supposes continuance of Grace to them that are thus punished , and that sufficient to make use of this punishment to their amendment , nay the punishment , though it be the withdrawing of one instrument of Grace , is it self another , and therefore purposely chosen and allowed in exchange for the former , because it is looked on as the more probable to produce the Effect . § . 35. They that see so great a benefit withdrawn from them for their unworthiness , will be thereby excited to reflect on their provocations , and bewail them , and contend by all regular means to regain what they have forfeited , and to repair their defects some other way , and this being the very end to which this punishment is by God designed , it is not imaginable , he doth yet ( till this method also be despised ) withold that degree of Grace from such which is necessary for the producing of the Effect . § . 36. All the ordinances of God , we know ( and such are the Censures ) yea and all the wise dispensations of his providence , particularly his punishments of this life ( and therefore this , as the last , beside excision ) are instruments of Grace in the hands of his wisdome , as well as the preaching of the word is , and therefore in all reason to be resolved to be the vehicles of Grace also , and so neither is this any objection against Gods giving sufficient Grace to those , whom he thus punishes , in case they begin to make use of it . If they do not , but continue still obstinate , 't is just it should at length be withdrawn from them . § , 37. But this must be understood onely of those persons to whom the light of the Gospel had formerly shined , not to their distant posterity , which never have had any gleames of it , though their Ancestors had the fullest Sunshine . These are to be reckon'd with the heathen , with whom you know we undertook not to meddle , treating onely of the Scripture-Election , terminated in those to whom the Scripture is revealed . § . 38. Fifthly there is a totall and finall withdrawing of all grace , as well as the means of it , which is visible in the cutting off such an one in his sins , and when this comes , our former supposall of sufficient grace , as of the preaching of the word , and God's calls , are utterly at an end , but this breeds no shew of difficulty , that man having enjoyed and mispent his time of sufficient grace , and now the store-houses are shut up . § . 39. But there is yet possibly a sixth state of with-drawing , when before either cutting off , or with-drawing Gods outward calls , whilst life , and the preaching of the word is continued , the obdurate sinner , that hath long hardened his own heart against God , thereby provokes him totally to with-draw all inward Grace from him , as much as if he were already in hell ; This seems to be Pharaoh's case after the sixth judgement , and was designed by God to very excellent ends , to make him an example to all those that should be inclined to harden their hearts against God ; And though we know not that God thus deals with any others , yet it is sure he justly may with all whom he may justly cut off in their sins . And in this case I acknowledge the non-conversion of such a man is not onely imputable to the indisposition of the person to be wrought on , but also to the withdrawing of the divine grace , for then , as I said , the former supposal ( of the like sufficiency remaining ) ceaseth , and is out-dated . § . 40. What fresh difficulties can arise from this concession , I cannot divine , unless 1. it should be objected , that then , it seems , the word is not alwayes the vehicle of Grace , and then 2. who knows when it is so , when not ? And how then is this reconcileable with the doctrine of sufficient grace alwayes accompanying the word ? And to these the answers are obvious , 1. that it is granted that the Word is not the vehicle of Grace to the Divils who believe and tremble , to the damned who have received their sentence , nay nor to those that are thus arrived to the highest degree of obduration in this life , and have , as Pharaoh , this exterminating sentence passed upon them . It is sufficient if it be so to them that are in a capacity to make use of it , and have not utterly hardened themselves against it , the Scripture-expression being , that the Gospel is the power of God to salvation to every one that believes it , and this is enough to establish our pretensions , the doctrine of sufficient grace . There is a competent time allowed every man , and 't is certain , death is the conclusion of it , 't is possible some space before death . § . 41. As for the second , if it were on the premised grounds granted , that sometimes it cannot be known whether or no the preaching of the Word do then bring this Grace with it , yet the one regular consequence would be that we should all be the more carefull to make use of Grace , when it is afforded : But when to this is added , that this barren season is alwayes the reward of obstinate obduration ( and of nothing less then that ) As long as we have any softness left , that is our assurance that this sad time is not yet come upon us . They that go on in their obdurate course , have reason to expect this fatal period every hour , but they that have remorse , and any degree of sincere relenting , may know by this , that this state of spiritual death hath not yet seized them , and that is sufficient to guard this doctrine from all noxious consequences , having provided that none shall hereby think his state desperate , that is willing to reform it . § . 42. But then it is farther to be remembred , that there appears not in the word of God , any other example of this totall spirituall dereliction finally inflicted , before death , but onely that of Pharaoh , after the time that God is said to have hardened his heart ; and the reason of this is set down , God keeps him alive , after the time due to his excision , that he might shew in him his power . And such singular examples ought no farther to be taken into consideration by us at this distance from them , then to warn us , that we keep as far as it is possible from the like provocations , And then there remains not , that I discern , any farther appearance of difficulty in this matter . § . 43. As for any others that shall be apt to occur , when men set themselves to consider of these points , not divining what they are , I may not pretend to speak to them , any farther then thus , that in all probability they may be measured by these , which you have chosen to mention , and by nearer approach to them be likewise found not to be so deep , as at the distance they are conceited to be . This then concludes your trouble ; It remains that according to my promise I now onely annex the Letters of Praescience , and hasten to subscribe my self Your most affectionate brother and servant H. HAMMOND . The Extracts of three LETTERS Concerning Gods Praescience reconciled with Liberty and Contingency , referred to , and promised in the first Letter to D. Sanderson , §. 8. THE FIRST LETTER . § . 1. AS to the distinction betwixt inevitably and infallibly , ( of which you desire my sence ) it is certain you must understand no more by the infallibility , then is vulgarly meant by Necessitas ex hypothesi , which is no more then that whatsoever is , cannot not be , or , omne quod est , eo ipso quod est , necessariò est . For so whatsoever is seen , or ( which is all one in an infinite Deity ) foreseen by God , is thereby supposed to have , in that science of his , an objective being ; If it were not , or did not come to pass , it should have no such objective being , if it have , it is thereby evidenced to be seen by him , who was , is , and is to come , and so ( being infinite ) is equally present to all , and equally sees , and knows all from all eternity . What therefore you conclude ( as it is most agreeable to this , so it ) is most true , that God knows all things as they are , such as come to pass contingently , he knows to come contingently , and from thence I undeniably conclude , therefore they are contingent ; As for Socinus's resolution that he foresees onely what are foreseeable , and that contingents are not such , but onely those that come to pass by his decree , I conceive it as dangerous as M. Calvins , that he predetermines all things , and it is visibly as false . For it is evident by the prophecies of Judas &c. that God long ( before ) foresees sins , which are as certainly contingent , and not decreed or decreeable by God. If therefore any that writes against the Remonstrants go about to retort their arguments , and conclude from their acknowledgements of Gods praescience , what is charged on their adversaries doctrine of praedetermination , I conceive it is but a boast , that hath no least force in it , praedetermination having a visible influence and causality on the object , but eternal vision , or praevision being so far from imposing necessity on the thing to be , that it supposes it to be already , from the free choice of the Agent , and that being of it is , in order of nature , before its being seen . Gods seeing , or foreseeing hath no more operation or causality of any kind on the object , then my seeing your letter hath caused your letter . You wrote freely , and now I see it , and that being supposed , it is infallibly certain that you have written , and that you cannot not have written . And just so it is in respect of God. Onely I am finite , and so is my sight , I see few things , and those onely which are present , but God being infinite sees all ab infinito , that are never so long hence future . — At Cambridge they have lately printed Origen contra Celsum , and Philocalia Gr. & Lat. ( which were rarely had and dear ) the latter of which hath good Chapters on this subject . § . 2. This Letter met with some prepossessions , so far advanced , as to cause a Reply of some length , and that necessitated my larger endeavours to remove them , which I shall here add also ; His Reply , to which this referres , is none of my goodes , and therefore I may not take that liberty in disposing of that , but you will discerne the force of it , in my returnes , which were as followes . The Second LETTER . SIR . § . 3. I received your Letter , and in it your sence of that difficult point , which I cannot approve of , but on the contrary assure my self , that as Omnipotence is not onely the power of doing all things that any or all creatures can do , but more then so , the doing all things that imply not a contradiction , ( as the same thing at once to be and not to be , the doing of those being as impossible to God , as it is to lye , ) so the Omniscience of God is the knowing all things which any creature can know , and not onely so , but the knowing all things which implye not a contradiction to be known , and then that will be extensible to all things that are past , present , or to come , of what sort soever they are ; what is past , or present , or being future is decreed by him , or comes to passe by some necessary cause in nature , which he decrees not to hinder , Gods knowledge of these will not , I suppose , be doubted of . All the question will be of future contingents , which before they are done , are possible to be , or not to be , but whensoever they come to passe , are as determinately in being ; as is any thing else , ( the most necessary , ) that is allready done . Unlesse then , what by being future is out of my reach , is also by being future , out of Gods reach , there can be no pretense that any such future contingent should not be objicible to Gods all seeing knowledge . § . 4. And that nothing that ever shall be , or will come to passe , is thus out of Gods reach , must sure be yeilded to Gods immensity , which relating to time , as well as place , it will be equally derogatory to it to limit it to the present time , in opposition to the future , and to the present , ( be it whatsoever finite , ) place . This therefore I take to be the one thing fit to be considered in this matter , whether Gods immensity comprehend not a commensuration to all time , and somewhat beyond that , as much as infinite is beyond finite . § . 5. This I suppose cannot be denyed to the Notion which is due to a Deity , and if so , then God was immense from all eternity , and cannot be imagined to advance or arrive to this by any 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , proficiency , or improvement , by continuing or enduring from the beginning to this time , or to the end of the world , but in every imaginable point of time , even before time was , he was thus immense , and if so , his knowledge being as immense as himself , all that he was from eternity present to , ( i. e. all things that ever were or shall be , ) must needs be objected to his knowledge . § . 6. Against this , your prime argument is , that it is no more derogatory to his omniscience not to know that which is in nature unintelligible , then to his Omnipotence , not to do things impossible . ] This is expresly Socinus's grand argument , and to it I answer . 1. That the phrase , ( in nature unintelligible , ) may be set to signifie no more then what no naturall , i. e. created power can know , and then there is no truth in the proposition , unlesse proportionably [ impossible ] signify what no finite naturall created power can do : and if both those phrases be meant so , there is nothing gain'd by it , because a Deity may both do and know more , then any creature can . But then secondly , the phrase [ in nature unintelligible ] may also signifie that which in the nature of things , whether finite or infinite , created or uncreated , is not possible to be understood ; And thus I suppose you meane it , and then the interpretation of the phrase must be , that for such a thing to be objicible to any , though infinite , understanding , implyes a contradiction , ( for nothing else is simply impossible : ) And this being your meaning , I absolutely deny , that for God to be by his immensity present to all time , ( and all that he is present to , he may see , ) implyes a contradiction , or hath any appearance , ( to him that considers what infinite is , ) of so implying . And if you will make tryall and attempt to prove it doth , it must be by proceeding on the known definition of contradictoryes , a repugnance in terminis , as idem eodem respectu esse & non esse , and then you will soon discerne the unquestionable truth of my deniall . For Gods seeing all future contingents , will neither imply God to be , and not to be , to see , and not to see , to see certainly , and not to see certainly , nor the future contingent to be , and not to be , or to be necessarily and not to be necessarily , or to be future , and not to be future . For the thing being future , and contingent now , and so continuing till it comes to passe , and when it comes to passe , coming to passe contingently , and so as it might not come to passe also , but when it actually is done , it implying a contradiction , ( and so being impossible , ) not to be done , and so being necessary necessitate hypotheticâ , i. e. supposing that it is , all this God sees and knowes by the severall acts of his intellect , answerable to the severall notions of the thing . § . 7. From all eternity , and so in every point of time , before it comes to passe , God sees it both as future , and as contingent , and so , as that , which till it is , may be or may not be ; and when it comes to passe , in ipso fieri , he sees the man that does it , act freely , having power to the contrary , and the thing never necessary , but as being done , and that onely by that necessity , whereof that proposition in logick is to be understood , Omne quod est , eo quod est , necessariò est . All which is very obvious to be conceived , and there is not the least contradiction , or shew thereof in it . § . 8. This one would thinke you readily granted , when you say , God infallibly knowes all that is past , present , or possible to be , ( for no man demands any more , ) yet you deny it again in these words , [ meer contingents which with equall possibility may be , or may not be , have no being in act , and therefore can cast no reflection , or objective being into the mind of God. ] To which I reply , First , that you ought to advert . 1. That what may be , or may not be , may be . 2. What may be , is possible , and 3. You your self confesse that God knowes all that is possible . Secondly that the having no being in act , ( which seemes to be your stumbling block , ) is a phrase proportioned to the thing , and to our finite understandings , to which the thing is future onely , and so hath no being yet : but when God is considered as infinite , then whatsoever shall ever be in act , that actuall being of it , is the object of Gods sight , and hath been so from all eternity , and is no more removed from him , then that is removed from me , which is present with me ; And if you say , God sees before , what in after time shall hang in the ballance of humane indetermination , i e. what he may do , deliberates , and is free to do , or not to do , but hath not yet done , I demand , why may he not also foresee which end of the ballance doth at length overpoise ? ( Is not one of these as truly future , as the other , when the man is not yet borne ? ) And so again , which end doth not overpoise , and never will , although he see it might , if the man should choose so , and that the man may so choose , but still that he doth not . This is it , wherein you say the contradiction is , and now it is visible there is none , nor the least approach towards any . § . 9. Here you add , ( which is your second main objection , ) that it is a mistake to call that possible , which God foresees shall never be , for if God foresees the contrary , ( i. e. that it shall never be , ) it is indeed impossible . But , 1. I pray , is nothing possible to come to passe , but what actually comes to passe ? If so , nothing that is , is contingent . But if some things be possible to come to passe , which yet do not come to passe , why may not God see they will not come to passe ? And if he can , then that is no mistake , which you say is . 2. Do but change the word foresight into ( which is the same , ) seeing from all eternity , and then it is plain , that God from all eternity may see that thing will never actually be , which yet is free for the agent to do , or not to do , ( and God sees that too , ) and so is possible every way , save onely ex hypothesi , on supposition that it will never be ; And as the bare hypotheticall necessity is no absolute necessity , so the bare hypotheticall impossibility is no absolute impossibility . 3. God sees every thing as it is , and it 's being or not being such , is in order of nature antecedent to Gods seeing it ; Therefore it infallibly followes , that if it be possible to be , though it shall never be , God sees it is possible to be , and if God sees it possible , it unavoidably followes that it is possible . § . 10. And it is not fit here to interpose , that though it seem to us possible , in respect of second causes , yet if God foresee the contrary , it is indeed impossible ; ] For what I am by God left free to do , or not to do , that , not onely seemes , but is indeed possible , and so it is , though in event I never do it , and being so in it self , God's seeing it will never be , hath no least influence upon it , so as to make the least change in it , ( for that is the work of his will , not of his knowledge , ) and so it cannot from possible convert it into impossible . § . 11. When therefore you say , no cause can effect that which God sees shall never be , this is onely true in sensu composito , that , in case it shall never be , and so God sees it shall never be , no cause shall effect it , but in sensu diviso it is most false , for I am truly able to write more lines to you then I shall ever write , or consequently then God foresees I shall write , and even this , that I am thus able , God equally foresees . § , 12. By this you see how far I am from being convinced , or by any reason forced to grant , that future determinations of free agents are not foreseeable , and what the inconvenience is of affirming they are not , even no less then derogating from Gods Immensity , and Infinity , and judging the perceptions of an infinite Creator by our finite , created measures , his more then unfathom'd Ocean by my span , and feigning contradictions , where there are none . § . 13. Now to the Inconveniences which you enumerate , I shall reply also , as oft as I perceive I have not prevented , or answered them already . The first is , that the sight can be no more certain then the things are which are seen , and therefore there cannot be a certain knowledge of those things , which in their causes are uncertain , ] I answer that all the certainty of the knowledge of any thing depends upon its being first , and then of its being known to be , and not onely upon the certainty of its causes ; I do now as certainly know that I have written nine pages to you , as I know that the fire burns , therefore that may be known certainly , which is not certain in its causes . And as that which is present to me is certainly known by me , so are all things to come from all eternity , present to an immense Creator , be they contingent , or not . And in this case there is not more in the effect then in the cause , for what is contingently come to pass , being done , is certain , and cannot be undone , and God sees it , as it is , therefore he sees it as done , and so certain , yet as done contingently , and so as that which might not have been , the being , certain , the manner of its coming to act , uncertain . The being then being the cause of the seeing , or in nature antecedent to it , and the seeing the effect or consequent of the being , the certainty of the effect is but proportionable to , and exceedeth not the cause . § . 14. The second Inconvenience is , that of saying that every thing that happens was certain to be , before it happens ] But I say not so , unless by certain you mean ex hypothesi , certain to be , in case it be ; for in case it should not be , God should see it would not be , and then it should be as certainly otherwise . § . 15. The short is , All Exhortations , Industry , Preaching , &c. are founded in the liberty of our actions , and if they be free till they be actually determined , and then are past freedome , and become necessary , so consequently must Exhortations , &c. be all usefull , till the thing be done , ( and then indeed , as to the doing , or not doing that , they are not usefull , but their second season of usefulness comes in , in case it were a sin , Exhortation to Repentance , &c. ) and that is as much , as can be or need be pretended to , and this is fully competible with Gods seeing certainly from all eternity , whatsoever shall come to pass in time ; His seeing it supposing it done , though for the manner of its being done , that were contingent , and if so , then is it not certain to be , before it happens , but it is certain to be , when it is , and it first is , in order of nature , before it is seen , and its being already seen , before it be done , depends onely on the immensity of Gods presence , and sight , which reacheth out to all that ever shall be ; so that that which is future to us , he is present to it , and in that sence , though he sees it as future , t is yet present to him . § . 16. Your third inconvenience is , that , by this , the damnation of such or such men is as fixed and unalterable , as though they were reprobated from all eternity , and it is as ill in respect of me , if I must inevitably be damned by my own free will , as if I had been sentenced to Hell by Gods decree , and in respect of God worse , for he must be deprived of the free exercise of his omnipotence , ( because he cannot make that not to be which he foresees will be ) and brought under a Stoicall Fatality , and so be an helpless spectatour of what anothers will is pleased to effect . ] I answer if by [ such and such men ] you mean such or such individuall entities , without respect to their qualifications or demeanures , then all your consequence , as it is inconvenient , so it is false , for from Gods seeing ab aeterno , that Judas will be reprobated , it follows not , that he sees he will be reprobated , but for his willfull Treason . But if you mean by such or such men ] men so or so qualified , i. e. finally impenitent , then 't is true , but not inconvenient , that finall impenitents , should from all eternity be reprobated . And speaking of these in this sence , 't is true , which you add , that it is as ill in respect of the person , i. e. finall impenitents , meaning by [ as ill ] as sad and penal , nay 't is more sad , and penal to be reprobated for final impenitence , which I am guilty of by my own free-will , then it would be to be onely by Gods decree involved in it , my willful culpable guilt being some addition to my misery , and ( as long as God is just ) it being expectable that those punishments will be sharper , which I bring on my self , by the exercise of my free will , then what comes on me by a decree grounded no way in my actions . And so still this is no Inconvenience . But if you mean by [ as ill ] that which hath as little mixture of Gods goodness towards me , then your consequence is false , for to Gods seeing Judas reprobated , and his seeing it ab aeterno , it is no way consequent , that he gives him no power to escape Damnation , viz. Grace to be able to stand and not fall , or Grace to recover if he will make use of it , but the contrary rather follows ; For how can God see him damned for the betraying Christ , and not repenting and returning , unless this were done wilfully by him ( sins of weakness and ignorance finding mercy , as in the case of Saul , persecuting the Church ) and unless he were first a Disciple of Christ , and so were illuminated , and assisted by Christ , and if he were so , then he had this power and Grace , or might have had it , if he were not wanting to himself , and if so , then this was not so ill to him ( in this sense , of which now I speak ) as to have been irrespectively reprobated , and never vouchsafed this Grace . § . 17. So when you say It is worse in respect of God , and prove that because he must be deprived of the free exercise of his omnipotence ] there is no truth in that consequence , or the reason of it . For Gods omnipotence consists not in being able to make both parts of a contradiction true , that were in the very attempt a departing from veracity , a falseness , a sin , and so the greatest impotence , and so most contrary to omnipotence . And such is that , which alone your consequence , and the reason of that supposes , making that not to be , which he foresees will be , for by the latter part of that expression you mean that which from eternity he sees to be done , and then to be done and not to be done , is in terminis contradictory . And this impotence or not being able to cause the same thing at once to be and not to be , is far from all notions of Stoical fatality , that I ever heard of ( els sure all rationall creatures must be Stoicks , for they all resolve that what is , cannot not be ) and as far from making God an idle helpless spectator of what anothers will is pleased to effect : for his providence , and assistence , and efficacy belong to other things , not to the making that not to be , when it is , but to the preventing it before it came , giving Grace sufficient , preventing , restraining , exciting , &c. ordering it and disposing of it to his own wise ends , when it is done , and punishing the doer justly , if he repent not , to which he is also ready to give Grace , if he humbly ask , and seek and knock for it : All this is supposed to be done by God , and so God is no helpless spectator , and all this is reconcileable with the effects being wrought by our free will , as long as Gods grace works not irresistibly . § . 18. Here I remember that of S. Augustin . de Civ . l. 5. c. 10. Nullo modo cogimur , aut retenta praescientia Dei , tollere voluntat is arbitrium , aut retento voluntatis arbitrio , Deum , quod nefas est , negare praescium futurorum , ( this is expresly contrary both to the Calvinists pretension on one side , and the Socinians on the other . ) § . 19. Your fourth inconvenience is , that then God never purposed to save all mankind . ] If by purposing you mean decreeing , and by saving , actually bestowing heaven upon them , then that consequence is true , but not in the least wise inconvenient , for God never decreed to save final impenitents , and such are many of mankind , after the giving of Christ , but on the contrary , hath sworn such shall not enter into his rest . The saving of mankind which God decreed is the redeeming them , and giving them Christ , and Grace , and making them salvable , and being deficient in nothing toward that end to those , that will make use of it . As for the other notion of Salvation , it is no where said that God purposed that in the notion of decreeing , but onely that he so will'd as to desire it , and to give sufficient means of effecting it , but those means proportioned to rational agents , and so not violent or irresistible , or such as should , by being contrary to freedome , exclude rewardableness . So when you say , Christ could not have an intention to dye for them , who he foresees would be nothing advantaged by it ] if by dying for them ] you mean so dying , that they should actually be saved , so 't is true , he intended not to dye for those that are finally impenitent , and so are not advantaged by it , for sure it is no part of his Covenant or intention in dying , to save such : but if by dying for them you mean purchasing pardon , upon supposition of repentance , then that he intended thus to dye for them , that make not this advantage of it , ( and so he sees make it not ) appears evidently by many texts , which tell us of his redeeming those that deny him , that perish , &c. and is intimated by the very style you use of their being nothing advantaged by it , for if he did not purchase those advantages for them , why is that phrase used ? § . 20. Your fifth Inconvenience is , that on this supposition , God could not seriously call upon such , whom his prescience points out for Damnation , to repent , more then I could bid him take heed that he fall not , whom by tumbling down I saw mortally bruised already . ] I answer , 1. that if you mean any more by that phrase [ his praescience points out to Damnation ] then [ he sees ab aeterno , that they will not repent , but dye in their sins , ] I reject the phrase , as not belonging to the question , my hypothesis being far from yielding , that praescience doth any other way , but this , or in any other sense , point out any to damnation . And therefore changing that obscurer for this other more perspicuous phrase , I say that Gods praescience of mens not making use of his call , is very reconcileable with the seriousness of his call , which I inferr from Gods own words , and oath , as I live , saith the Lord , I desire not the death of him that dyes , turn you , turn you , for why will you dye ? what can be more serious then this speech , directed to those that dye , and he sees , obstinately will dye . But this differs widely from my warning him to take heed of falling , whom I see actually fall'n , because whensoever God thus calls not to fall , the man is not fall'n : when he calls him to arise again , being fall'n , he is not irreversibly fall'n , and therefore accordingly he calls him ( not , not to fall , but ) to rise again . And what God thus doth in time , God ab aeterno decreed to do , and his foreseeing it would not produce the desired effect , was in order of nature after the decree of doing it , and therefore is in no reason to have any influence on ( so as to change ) the decree , and if not so , then the decree standing still in force , it is most necessary that it should be performed , and so that God should in time call thus seriously to repentance . § . 21. And indeed , for God to foresee ( as he doth , or els would not punish for it , ) that his most serious call will be rejected , and yet not to suppose his call is most serious , is an absolute contradiction , and so cannot possibly be supposed or imagined . § . 22. To my argument of Judas's sin being foreseen , and foretold by God , from whence I conclude that that is foreseen which is not caused by God , or to which the man is not determined by any act of Gods will ) which you say is very pressing , you answer by referring to my judgement 1. whether the Prophecies could not have been fullfilled , had Judas never been born : 2. whether by listning to his Master he could not have repented , &c. ] To the first I answer , that the prophecy , as it was terminated in him , could not possibly have been fullfilled , had he never been born , and that the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , or utmost completion of the prophecy Psal . 41. 9. was terminated in him , the holy Ghost by S. Peter tells us , Act. 1. To the second , that I doubt not but by listning to Christ , he might have repented , and then God foresaw that he might , yet foresaw he would not do what he might , and so foretold this ; whereas if he would have done otherwise , it is as undoubted , that God should have foreseen that , and might , if he had pleased , have foretold it also , as Christ did not onely his treason , but also S. Peters denyall , and repentance also . As for that which you suggest , that the prophecy of him might be like that of Jonah , conditional ] 1 , there is little probability for it , when the event hath so much otherwise interpreted it , which if it had not done , I should not have resisted your suggestion , as far as concerned his perishing . But then 2. you know my Argument was founded in Gods foreseeing his sin ( and no his perishing ) and to that his conditional foresight , exemplified in Jonas to Nineveh , is not applyable , § . 23. That which you cite from Chrysostome , who gives for a reason why Christ admitted Judas to the Sacrament , that nothing might be omitted that might conduce to his amendment ] belongs not to your first , but second question , and so I allowed of it , as you see , and am not prejudiced by it . For to your concluding question I answer expresly , Christ look'd on Judas's not sinning , or repenting , as possible , till by his repudiating all the means of Grace , and his measure of iniquity fill'd up , he withdrew his Grace from him , which whether he did before , or not till his death , I have no means of desining . Onely this I resolve , that Christs foreseeing what he would do , had no least influence on the effect , any more then the effect hath on the cause , or the sense on the object , Gods foresight being in nature consequent to , and caused by his doing it , not the cause of it . And when you say , that if it were possible , then the contrary was not certain , I grant it was not certain , till it was done , and when you inferr , then it could not be foreseen , I deny the consequence , for those things which are not certain , till they are done , may by an immense Deity be ab aeterno seen to come to passe in time , and so that sight or foresight be as certain , as a foresight of what is most necessary in its causes : and the reason is clear , because of that which is done , it is as certain that it is done , as of that which is in causis , it is certain , that it is in causis , and being so , it may cast a reflexion on the understanding of him that is present to it , and so is God to futures , as well as to the present . § 24 , And when you say in your Postscript , that it is a contradiction to say that things past or future are present , and therefore all things are not , nay cannot be present to God ; ] I answer , 1. that you use not the right definition of a Contradiction , in saying thus , for future doth not contradict present , but present and not present is a contradiction , and so future and not future ; 2. although it be granted of any finite thing , that it cannot be both present and future , yet God being immense , may and must be present to that which is future , or els he is bounded and limited . Yet this doth not inferr God to see what is future as present ( which you say is to be deceived ) but to see what is future as future , which though indeed it be future , yet he by his immensity may be present to it . And none of the inconveniences , which you add , follow on this ; onely let me tell you ( on strength of that Proposition , Quicquid est necessario est id quod est ) that as God cannot change what is past , so he cannot change that which is present , so as to make it , when it is present , not present , and then no more can he change that which is future , so as to make it not future . All that can be done is , either 1. to make that which is contingent ( and so may be or may not be ) to become necessary , by decreeing it ; or 2. to come to pass really , though but contingently , or els 3. not to come to pass , or finally to leave it still free , yet to foresee what will freely be done , as much as what will necessarily be done . § . 25. So that you see the maxime which you mislike , is not so much , that all things are present to God , i. e. represented to him sub ratione praesentis , as this , that God by his immensity is present to all things , and his sight being as infinite as his being , this is as easie to be understood , as the other , or as any infinite is comprehensible by our finite understandings , which you call duller apprehensions , for so sure are all ours , when we imploy them upon infinites . You see into what a length I am run , indeed much above mine own intentions , but shall not repent of it , if it contribute to the disabusing you , and shewing you the way out of this intricacy . § . 26. This second Letter having some enforcements of the old , and addition of new scruples , returned to it , by the same hand , which I accounted it my duty to answer at Large , by a third letter , ( which I suppose will conclude this controversy , ) I shall here also subjoin it . It was as followeth . The Third LETTER . SIR . § . 27. THough yours of — made hast to me , yet I found no leasure to afford it any serious reflections , till this — and therefore being already guilty of two long delayes , I shall not now encrease them by prooeme , but fall immediately to the view of your reply . And in it , what you first lay down , partly by way of concession , partly by way of apology for your own Notion , partly by way of opposition to mine , I must confesse I see not what propriety of application it hath to that which was the ground-work of my Paper , viz : that whatsoever hath a being , or ever shall have a being , ( which though by being future 't is out of my reach , yet by being future , is not removed out of Gods reach , ) is objicible to Gods all-seeing eye of knowledge , and this upon the grounds of his infinite unlimited immensity , by you and by all Christians acknowledged , and the no contradiction , ( which alone renders it impossible to God , ) which it implyes , for God thus to reach out immensly , and see all ab aeterno , which ( and in the manner as it ) in time comes to passe . § . 28. In stead of shewing this implicancy of a contradiction , ( which alone was to have been done , ) you have tendred a reason to prove , [ that God's knowledge is not properly said to be immense , in regard he knowes all things possible , ] viz : because they conjunctim are not absolutely infinite . But sure this hath no force against my position , which doth not prove Gods immensity of knowledge , by this argument of his knowing all things possible , or by any other , but takes that for granted , and needing no proofe , and from thence inferres and concludes the other , viz : his knowing all things past , present or future , and against this concluding 't is visible your reason is of no kind of force , [ for that these conjunctim are not infinite , ] for an immense knowledge may and must see all finites , though it self be infinite . § . 29. So again , when you say his immensity cannot relate to time , and place , which are both finite , and you cannot see how any quantitative extension should be subjected in a purely spirituall essence , and press this with absurdityes , and strange consequences , ( as if it were maintained by them , against whom your debates lye , ) if you consider again , you will see , there was no cause for it , I am sure in my papers there was none , which when they proposed to your consideration , whether Gods immensity comprehend not a commensitration to all time , immediately added , and somewhat beyond that , as much as infinite is beyond finite . By comprehending a commensuration to all time , if when it had that immediate addition to explaine it , it can be misunderstood , I must then farther expresse my self , that I meant , no quantitative extension , or indeed any more then this , that God is , was , and shall be , from , and to all eternity , and as his essence , so is his Immensity , Omnipresence , Omniscience ; he sees and knowes all things , not onely that are or have been , but that ever shall , or will be , i. e. shall ever have an actuall being , objicible to knowledge , and even for possibles , that yet never come to passe , he sees and knowes both parts . 1. That they are possible to be . 2. That they will never be . § . 30. This I have added in relation to those words of yours , on which you seem to lay weight , [ The time to come is now no time , as the things which meerly be possible , are now no things , and therefore to apprehend that God is in such time , or that such things are present with him , is to conceive that that is not . ] § . 31. Here , First , let me tell you , your comparison , or proportion holds not , being laid betwixt the time to come , which is really future , and the things meerly possible , which shall never be ; But passing that , 't is certain Secondly , that though the time to come , according to our finite measures , is now to us no time , i. e. is not the present time , ( which holds equally of the time past , which being past is now to us not present , ) yet in respect of Gods immensity this cannot be said , for that were to encumber him with our sinite rules , and measure infinity by our span of time , which with me you professe to avert , and abhor . § . 32. So though the things meerly possible are now no things , ( I shall add , nor ever shall be , ) yet even these are objicible to him as they are , i. e. as things meerly possible ; which yet never shall actually be , for he may and doth see that they are possible , and also that they shall not come to passe . § . 33. And when against this you argue , that this is to conceive that which is not , ] If you mean by it , that which is not actually , I grant it , but find no inconvenience in affirming , that God sees or conceives that to be possible , which he sees is not , nay shall never be ; But if you meane , that if so , then God conceives contrary to truth , there is then no shew of truth in that consequence , for his conceiving that to be meerly possible , which is meerly possible , is to see according , ( and that is not contrary , ) Nazianzen's speech that God 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , alwayes is , but neither properly 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 was , nor 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , shall be , and that eternity is neither 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 time , nor 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , part of time , is so far from having any unkind aspect on my notions , that it is the very thing that I contend , that we must not go about to fathom eternity by our finite lines of time , but lay all that is done in time , or ever shall be , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , naked and bare before him , and still acknowledge that beyond this , there is an infinite abysse , which we cannot fathom . § . 34. On this what you build , and apply equally to that which is past , and future , [ that which is past vanishing , say you , into nothing , and before it was , being nothing , ] might ( me thinks ) by being reflected on , extricate you out of your labyrinth . For can you doubt that God knowes what is now past ? I presume you do not , can not ; And then why may he not as well know what is future ? When the onely objection to that , being [ because it is not , and he must then know that , that is not , ] you have equally resolved , that that which is past , is not , as that that is future ; and so that your objection , either holds against both , or neither , I pray consider this . § . 35. Next when you insist , that the acts of his infinite understanding , in relation to the creature , must needs be finite , as the creatures are finite . ] I cannot apprehend , how you can reap any the least advantage by it , meaning , as the words import , that God sees things as they are , for this you know and acknowledge is my ground also , and to this it is consequent , ( and so not strange , ) that whatsoever he sees ab aeterno , he must see , as it is , i. e. as it is done in time , whether necessarily , or contingently , but no way consequent , that he can see nothing ab aeterno , because it is in time that it comes to passe , for that which comes to passe in time , he that is eternall , and immense , and omniscient , may ( seeing it implyes no contradiction , ) see ab aeterno , though I who am finite , and whose sight is limited , and finite , cannot . § . 36. When therefore you argue , that it is no more derogatory to his eternal wisdome , to say that he sees or knowes this or that in time , and not ab aeterno , then it is to his infinite power , to say that it workes in a finite manner , ] Me thinks the fallacy should be to gross to impose on you , upon a second view : The former member of your comparison expressly denying his seeing or knowing ab aeterno , which is the greatest derogation to immensity , and omniscience and eternity , when the latter hath no such negation of his power of working , but affirmes onely that he workes in a finite manner , ( which he may do sometimes , when there is no need of interposing his infinite power , ) but not that he workes not ab aeterno , which the proportion , if it were observed , would exact , and then that would be as derogatory to his power also . § . 37. The observing of this will I hope cleare to you that which you say is so strange , it being but the same fallacy again in another dresse , ( which therefore I shall no farther pursue , ) or if the reason which you add , from the temporariness of the creature , which ab aeterno had no being , save onely in mere possibility , ] have still any force with you , I hope it will cease to have so , when 1. you consider that an objective being is sufficient to cause knowledge , and that it 's being in time is no hindrance to an immense Deity to see it ab aeterno , for if he may see it a day before it comes to passe , why may he not equally ab aeterno ? 2. That futures , though contingent , differ from meer possibilityes , that which is meerly possible never coming to an actuall being , and so being not future , and of such I should erre indeed strangely , if I thought God did foresee them as future , or see them as having an actuall being . It suffices that he sees them as they are , i. e. as meerly possible , and why that which is possible , though it never be , God may not see ab aeterno to be possible , I neither see , nor am offered by you any shew of reason . How you come to conceive it said by your adversaryes that the acts of Gods understanding are all necessarily eternall , ( you meane I suppose by your whole discourse ab aeterno , ) I guess not , when he that saith God sees ab aeterno , what now I do , must also grant that he now , i. e. in time sees me do it , or else could not believe him Omniscient . 'T is the part of immensity to do both , and of Omniscience to know all things both future , and present , and the affirming one of these is very far from denying the other . § . 38. You say this is no convincing argument , Gods understanding was infinite ab aeterno , therefore whatever he knowes , he knew ab aeterno , more then this , Gods power , &c. was infinite ab aeterno , ergo : what he does now , he does ab aeterno . ] But 1. Who urged that former argument in that forme ? Not I surely . 2. If I now shall , your parallel bears no proportion with it , unless the antecedent and consequent be better suited then they are ; For in your antecedent you speak of power , in the consequent of doing , which belongs to Gods will , not to his power , ( for sure God does onely what he wills , not whatsoever he hath power to do , or to will. ) But set both to the same , viz. to his power , and then it will follow inevitably thus , Gods power and ability of doing whatsoever he pleased was infinite ab aeterno , ergo . Whatsoever he now does he had power to do ab aeterno ; And this is the argument which alone is suitable to the former , Gods understanding was infinite ab aeterno , ergo . Whatsoever he knowes , ( or now sees , ) he knew or saw ab aeterno , i. e. Whatsoever now is , or ever shall be done . Both these are apparently true , though one of those which you had suited amiss , were false , the other remaining true . § . 39. Having removed these rubs , which you say thus hinder your consent , I shall hope you will yeild to as much as I pretend , which is not , you see , that God coexists to things that neither are , nor ever will be , i. e. to things onely possible , but not future , but that Gods immensity is such , as that he reacheth out and is present , ab aeterno , to all that is done in time , and so that all that ever shall be , is ab aeterno objected to his knowledge ; Against this nothing that you have said in your five first pages hath any semblance of force , and therefore I hope this now will be granted by you , and then I have it under your hand at the bottom of your fift page , that most of your objections will be easily answered , which therefore I might leave your self to do ; but having a little more leasure then ordinary , I will a while accompany you in the view of every of them ; and begin with your defence of your first objection . § . 40. And there First , when to prove it to imply a contradiction that a thing that is not , ( as , say you , all mere possibles are , ) should be intelligible , you thus argue , it 's being intelligible implyes that it is , so it is , and it is not , ( which is a contradiction , ) the fallacy is two fold , 1. You confound futures that are , ( by being such , ) supposed to have an objective being , though not as yet an actuall , with meer possibles , which never shall be , and so are not future , but onely possible to be , and agreeably are seen and known onely to be possible , but not to be future , and 2. You confound an objective being which alone is implyed in being intelligible , with present , or actuall being ; and now take it out of these ambiguities , and set it as it is , that God ab aeterno did , or now doth see that which to day is not , but to morrow shall be , and then what is become of that , [ is and is not , ] i. e. of the contradiction ? or consequently of your whole cause ? Nothing being impossible to God , but what implyes a contradiction ; which therefore again I presse ; shew the contradiction , or yeild the cause . § . 41. Secondly , when to your saying that all things past , present , or possible , are known to the divine wisdom , I returned a parenthesis , [ No man demands any more , ] and you now reply , that I did not fully apprehend your meaning , which was that God knew all things possible , not as future , my rejoynder is , that I well discerned the difference betwixt possible and future , all things being not future , which are possible ; Yet because all futures are possible , ( though all possibles are not future , ) I could not misapprehend your words , which spake of all things possible , ] in concluding that all futures were comprehended under that style of all things possible , for sure futures are in that number , and then if all futures were intelligible to God , and by you granted to be infallibly known by him , this as I said , was all I demanded . There is difference I conceive , betwixt possible and meerly possible , all futures are possible , but what is meerly possible excludes futurity . Sometimes you speake of meer possibilityes , and then I never apprehend you to meane futures , as , when you speake of all that is possible , I am obliged to do . § . 42. Now then if you spake , or speake of meer possibilityes , and say that God knew all things meerly possible , as meerly possible , and not as future , you say most truly , but then your example of B's future marriage is nothing to your purpose , for if it be considered as future , then though it be yet possible to be , or not to be , yet it is not meerly possible , for by being supposed future , it is consequent that it shall be , whereas what is meerly possible , shall never be . When therefore you say , both are known by God as possible , ( viz : that he shall marry , and that he shall not , ) neither as future , you deceive your self , for though he sees both as possible , yet he sees one as future , viz : as contingently future , future when it might be otherwise , and the other as meerly possible , i. e. not future , sees it , I say , as future , not by consequences , or per scientiam mediam onely , in the ordinary notion of that , viz , if this be , that will follow , ( for which science there is place sometimes in things meerly possible , and not future , as in the example of the Oracle concerning the men of Keilah , that if David trusted them , they would deliver him up , when yet he not trusting himself to them , they did not , could not deliver him , ) but by reaching out so far as to see it done , in that other notion of Scientia media , whereby God sees what man will freely do , and not onely conditionally what he might or would do . § . 43. Your following objections against this , that what is known as future , is certainly known will be , but A. B's marriage is altogether uncertaine , ] is of no more force then the answer of the double necessity , simplex , and ex hypothesi evacuates , for what is certainly known will be , may be also in respect of the agent uncertain , as being free for him to do , or not to do , which notwithstanding when he hath done , it is then certainly what it is , and as so , it is seen by God from all eternity . § . 44. Thirdly , when I said that the having no being in act , is a phrase proportioned to the thing , and to our finite understandings , 't is visible . 1. That I spake of the phrase , and nothing else . 2. That my meaning is , that to our finite understandings that is not present , or in act , which is still future , but yet God by his immensity may reach out , and be present to it , or see it , as wee do that which is before our eyes . § . 45. And when against my words you argue thus , [ if it be proportionable to the thing , then it is also to Gods understanding which depends thereon , ] 't is plain again , that you misapprehend mee , for I oppose Gods infinite , to our finite understandings , and not Gods understanding the thing , to the reality of it ; God understands it , as it is , and so sees that future , and contingent , which is truly so , ( as Cicero saith , Vt praeterita ea vera dicimus quorum superiori tempore vera fuerunt instantia , sic futura , quorum consequenti tempore vera erunt instantia , ea vera dicemus , ) but till it actually be , God sees it by his infinite science , which by our finite we cannot reach . § . 46. Let it then be granted that Gods understanding depends on the thing , what followes thence ? No more but this , that future contingents having yet no being in act , and therefore being not visible to our finite faculties , have yet a being objective , as being really , though contingently future , and Gods knowledge being proportioned to the things , and depending on them as such , i. e. as future contingents , and not as actually being , these he knowes by his infinite knowledge . § . 47. But say you , his understanding can be no more actuall then the thing is from whence he derives that understanding , ] what truth is there in this ? I know what is past , my knowledge is actuall , but the thing past is not so ; I know if the course of nature be not altered , ( or , which as to this matter , is equivalent , I believe , ) the Sun will rise to morrow , here my knowledge or belief , is actuall , but the object is future , not yet actuall , save onely that it is now actually true , that the Sun will rise then . And then why may not Gods knowledge be actuall either of what is past , or future , ( and so now actually is not , ) and yet he see it as it is , i. e. what is past as past , what future , as future ? § . 48. Fourthly , when to my question , [ Why , if God sees before , that which in after time hangs in the balance of humane indetermination , he may not also foresee which end of the balance will at length overpoise ? ] You answer , that the foresight of the former is the foresight of possibles , but the foresight of the other is the foresight of a contingent future , and that the one is not as truly future , as the other , ] you cannot but see , you do not render any answer to the question , i. e. any reason why he may not see what is really , though contingently future , as well as that which is meerly possible ? It is true , one is not as truly future , as the other , but what shew is there of reason , that what is lesse future , or not future at all , shall be seen , and that which is future , and shall really be , shall yet not be seen by him that is Omniscient ? can it 's no kind of being , not so much as in futurition , set the advantage on that side , and make that most intelligible , which hath no being , and that least , which hath ? If it do , yet sure it shall be no ground of resolving that the really future is not at all , even to God foreseeable , or that there is any contradiction in this , which if you remember was incumbent on you to prove , by that of hanging in the balance , &c. but is not now attempted by you . § . 49. I proceed to your defense of your second objection . And first when you grant that many things are possible , which will never be brought to act , ] how could you say before , that it was a mistake to call that possible which God foresees shall never be ? Is that a mistake which is perfectly true ? Or is not Gods foresight agreeable to what is ? § . 50. But say you now , God that sees all things as they are , sees them as possible , not the one side of a contradictory proposition as determinately true , and the other as assuredly false , for so he should see them as they will be hereafter , but not as they are now , ] I answer , 1. God that sees them as they are , sees them not onely as possible , but as future , for they are not onely possible , but future , 2. Of contradictory propositions , as , that I shall kill my self to morrow , and I shall not kill my self tomorrow , ] one is determinately true , I mean not by determinately true , that God hath decreed it shall be , but it is true on the one side , and not on the other ; for if I kill my self tomorrow , then it is true to day , that I will kill my self tomorrow , and if so , then it is false , that I shall not kill my self tomorrow . What then is determinately true , God sees as determinately true , and so sees it as it is . 3. If he sees them as they will be hereafter , sure this is sufficient , who would desire any more ? Nay this is to see them as they now are , for now they are future , i. e. things that now are not , but shall hereafter be . § . 51. In your reply to my second answer , it is no way pertinent which you say of a bare supposition proving nothing , yet being granted proving any thing that is necessarily deducible from it . For 1. when I speak of a bare hypotheticall necessity , you speak of a bare hypothesis or supposition , which is quite another thing , your bare supposition is a supposing , ( though no more then supposing ) that to be , which is not , but our bare hypotheticall necessity is a conditional , as that is opposed to an absolute necessity . How wide are these one from the other ? 2. Then if you review that my second answer , to which you make this reply , you shall see how little propriety it hath to it . It was this , Change the foresight into seeing from all eternity , and then it is plaine , that God from all eternity may see that will never actually be , which yet is free for the agent to do or not to do , ( and God sees that to , ) and so is possible every way , save onely ex hypothesi that it will never be , and as the bare hypotheticall necessity is no absolute necessity , so this bare hypothetical impossibility is no absolute impossibility . To this your reply is , that though a bare supposition prove nothing , yet it being granted , it infallibly proves any thing necessarily conclusible from it . ] You see now how little this is ad Iphicli boves , and yet , 3. If it were pertinent , it would not be for your advantage , for supposing , ( as I also do , ) that God sees the thing as contingently future , free for the agent to do or not to do , it must by your rule necessarily follow , that the thing is contingent , and so not absolutely necessary , or any other wayes , then that when it is , it cannot not be , which was all I had to make good in that answer . § . 52. In my third answer you grant all I aske , onely you interpose , that to our purpose it is all one whether Gods prescience render the object certain , or presuppose and find it certain ; and , as if this were , upon the meer saying it , presently granted , as a Maxime cleare by it's own light , you add no word of proof to it . Which how far from reasonable it is , you will now discover . And 1. to render , and to find , are as far from all one , as to cause and not to cause , for sure what I render certain , I cause to be so , what I find certain is caused by another and not by me . And being thus distant in themselves , it is strange they should to our purpose be all one . Is it all one to our purpose , whether I commit sin freely , when I had grace to abstain from it , or God cause or work it in me ? What two things can be lesse all one then these ? and this the one purpose , for which the men , with whom you dispute , do insist on this subject , and distinguish betwixt Gods foresight and his decree . And therefore as you are very sollicitous that your opinion should be freed from the imputation of derogating from the Divine immensity , and Omniscience , so at this time it concernes you to be as carefull , lest you offend against Gods purity , and other attributes , when you make it all one for his prescience to find and to render the object certain ; i. e. to see all the sins that wee commit , and to cause them . I pray consider this , and it will force you either to acknowledge that God foresees certainly what we do freely and contingently , or to deny our sins , ( i. e. voluntary actions , ) to be free , or to deny that Christ foresaw that Peter would deny , or Judas betray him , both which he foretold to his Disciples . § . 53. I proceed to your defense of the objected inconveniences against my answers to them . And first , it breakes no square , whether [ in themselves , ] be inserted , or omitted , 1. because what is in it's causes utterly uncertain , is so in it self . 2. because you yeild to all I said on this head as rationall and convincing , and onely question the truth of my principle , which you know I was not again to prove in that place , when I was answering the objections , or inconveniences . § . 54. Your second inconvenience I understood before in the very sence that your instance now sets it , and accordingly I rendered answer to it , and shewed wherein it was that Exhortations , &c. were founded , viz. in the liberty of our actions , so long as till they be actually committed , and no longer . And to this you give no answer at all , nor to ought I say on that head , but onely say over in another Scheme the same thing to which I answered . § . 55. In this your new Scheme you say , that had it been known aforehand , that A. B. would obstinately have continued in his wickedness , it had been vain to have used exhortations , and so for God ( supposing his prescience , ) it were vain to enjoyne them . ] Here the word [ vain ] in the obvious notion imports unprofitable , or uselesse , and then , 1. I pray consider , whether it be fit to speak thus of God. It is certain Christ saw Peter would fall , Judas would betray him , yet he told them both of it before , and that telling them was a timely admonition , and equivalent to an exhortation , adding of Judas a terrible threat , or denunciation , that it was better for him , that he had never been borne . Would you think it tolerable for any Christian to say hereupon , it was vain , for Christ to do all this ? I trow you would not , and therefore will your self think fit to avoid it . § . 50. Should you have any scruple in this , the story of Pharaoh , and the passages , Rom. IX . referring to it , would , à multò majori & fortiori , supersede or answer it . God had there foretold Moses , that he Pharaoh's heart , which I hope is much more toward inferring a necessity , then Christ 's foretelling Peter , or Iudas of the fall of the one , and treason of the other . And yet God exhorts Pharaoh after that , and he that objects against his doing so , Rom. IX . that saith 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ; Why doth he yet , ( after that sixt judgement , when God himself hath sent his plagues on his heart , why doth he still , or yet ) find fault , is answered , Nay but , O man , who art thou , that disputest against God ? § . 57. In the former part of that story , when it was not come to that height , yet it is most evident that from the beginning of Moses's mission to Pharaoh , God had foretold that Pharaoh , would harden his own heart , and that ( alone ) is perfectly parallel to our case , which is of prescience of future contingent acts of mans will , yet are all Gods messages and signes by Moses purposely sent to melt , and perswade him to let the people go . Doth any man now want a perspective to discerne that these messages of heaven were not vaine ? Or that such acts of Divine wisdom , ( his wayes , that are not like ours , ) are not to be submitted to our tribunall , but adored and reverenced , and no otherwise approached by us ? But then , § . 58. Secondly , if by vain you meane no more , then that which doth not finally obtain the effect principally designed , so there will be no difficulty in affirming with S. Paul , that Gods grace and so his exhortations , &c. may be received in vain , for so God knowes it is too frequent for us to do , mean while what thorow our default becomes fruitless to us , doth not returne so to God , but serves Gods subsequent , ( though it resists his , ) antecedent will , which is also Gods will , viz : to punish the obdurate , as well as his antecedent is to save the humble and tractable , and the more frequent the exhortations are , supposing grace annext to enable to make use of them , ( as you know we suppose , ) the more culpable is the obstinacy against such meanes , and the more culpable , the more justly punished , and so Gods justice vindicated from all aspersion , and mans freedome asserted : And the exhortations , that have contributed to all this , will not be deemed vain , though they attain not the fruit primarily intended , the salvifick effect or designe of them . § . 59. And whereas you compare this to a Physician prescribing a medicine , which he foresees will do him no good . ] I must ask by what meanes it comes to passe that that medicine will do him no good ? By it 's own insufficiency or impropriety to the disease , or by the obstinacy of the patient , that he will not take it ? If by the former , I then acknowledge with you that Physician were vain ; but that is no way applyable to God , whose medicaments are sufficient , being the power of God to salvation to all that believe . But if it be by the second onely , then the Physician is far from vain , as doing all that the wit of man can do , or wish toward the recovering of his patient . For he that will not use his recipe's , seemes bent on his own death , and as guilty of it , as he that cuts his own throat , and 't is no disparagement to the Physician , that when he is prescribing remedies for his feaver or consumption , he doth not cure his obstinacy , or that he prescribes to him , as to a wise man he would prescribe , ( though indeed the event be much other , then it would be in a wise man , but that is not the Physicians fault , ) and as little can the vanity be imputed to Gods operations , when by our defaults onely they prove uneffectuall ; God himself , Isa . V. appealing to us in the like case , what could he have done more to his vineyard which he had not done , when yet pro uvis labruscas , instead of grapes it brought forth nothing but wild grapes . § . 60. In that place no doubt it was possible for God to have done somewhat which he did not , viz. to have forced the ground to bring forth good grapes , but to a vineyard interpreted there to be the house of Israel , to a rational vineyard , and to that which was to be left in a state of rewardablenesse , of doing and not doing , of freedome , the dowry of the will of men and Angels , with which they were created , this was not competible and therefore 't is truly said , God could do no more , then he did , or doth , ( whatsoever the event be and be foreseen by him , ) and that is as contrary as is possible to the objection of vainnesse . § . 61. For the enforcing the third inconvenience , you say it seemes hard that finall impenitents should from all eternity be reprobated , unlesse conditionally , ] never considering , what was most conspicuous in my answer , that final impenitence it self is that onely condition . When therefore you say , It were , as if a person should be sentenced to death for a fact before it be committed , you fall back into the two mistakes , which my answer , if adverted to , had prevented . 1. You speak of a person simply , and abstracted from guilt , when I speak of a final impenitent , i. e. a person so very ill qualified , and fouly guilty . 2. I suppose his sentence to be founded in his guilt , and his guilt , in order , before his sentence , but both of them in the mind of God , ( who seeing his guilt , awards that punishment , adapts his revenge to that fact , ) seen as past , before ever that sentence goes out against him . § . 62. Here you say A. B's , Salvation was ab aeterno possible , ( which I grant , ) and thence infer , that God did not ab aeterno see his damnation as certain , but onely as possible . But I deny the consequence , for he may see both his salvation and damnation as possible , and yet see one of them as onely possible , the other being also future , which is somewhat more , then onely or barely possible . Meane while nothing hinders , but what is , ( and God sees , ) thus future , he might by his omnipotent power have prevented , ( which yet , you say , by my reason he could not , ) onely then , he had not seen it as future , but as that which would have been , if he had not prevented it . § . 63. Again you say , that if God had infallibly foreseen that A. B. living longer would unavoidably have fallen into sin , and therein have persevered till death , you verily believe , in regard of his goodness and love to mankind , not onely in generall , 1 Tim. II. 4. 2 Peter III. 9. But to A. B. himself , Ez. XVIII . 32. that God would take him away in his infancy , assoon as baptized , when he was in the state of grace and salvation . ] In this processe of yours , I wonder whence the word unavoidably came . For I that according to your supposition , look on A. B. as one baptized , and in the state of grace , and salvation , can never grant that he unavoidably falls and finally perseveres in such sin , as brings damnation ; I grant he may fall , and that finally , but sure not unavoidably , for by that grace he was enabled to stand , and if he fall , he falls willfully , but that is not unavoidably . § . 64. And what if Godsees from all eternity that he will thus fall , doth that render his fall unavoidable ? No , but Gods foreseeing that he would fall willfully , when he had grace to stand , ( which circumstance he foresaw , as well as the fall it self , ) must infer the quite contrary , that when he falls he might have stood , and so fell not unavoidably . § . 65. But then leaving out that unseasonable word , [ unavoidably , ] which in all reason you might have done , when in relation to the certitude of Gods prescience you had said , [ infallibly foresees , ] there will then be no ground of truth in that proposition , no shew of proof of it from the goodness and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of God to all , or to any particular , as those texts or any other express it , for from none of those it is rendred probable in any degree , that they which are baptized , and have sufficient grace given them , and promise of abundance , if they make use of it , shall have violent restraints , or be taken out of the world , rather then they shall fall into wilfull sin . Consult the places again and you will soon find there is no propriety in them for the proofe of this . § . 66. And yet if even this also were true , it would no way incommodate our pretensions , for in that case of Gods taking away such a man , in his infancy , it would follow by our doctrine , that God foresaw that from all eternity , and so that he foresaw not A. B. a finall impenitent , which is the destroying and voiding your whole supposition . § . 67. How then this seeming advantage could reasonably incline you , to profess it your thought , that the doctrine of prescience is very much inconsistent with the omnipotence and goodness of God , &c. and that 't is swallowed without examination , I now leave you candidly to consider , by your reflexions on the strength of that reed you laid this weight on . Judge I pray , might not God , if he would , have created a world of men , taken them up into heaven , and crowned them , ( if crowning it could be called , ) with everlasting blisse , and so left none of them in the hazards of this world ? Yet did not , ( it is evident by the fact , ) his love of mankind oblige him to this , but men are left to vast dangers , and multitudes fall under them . Must all this now be imputed to Gods ignorance how all things would frame in the world in this other course , which yet it appeares he hath chosen ? The consequences are too horrid to insist on . Let us instance once for all in Adam , 't is certain he fell , and in him all his posterity , did not God foresee or know this , till the effect told it him ? Then how was Christ given in decreto divino , before the creation of the world ? I hope you will not say he was not so given , when the Scripture is in many places so expresse for it , especially , Ephes . I. 4. and when Gods decrees are ab aeterno , and so especially this , the foundation of all the rest , of those that concern our salvation , Yet can I as little imagine what else you can say , unlesse you will forsake your hypothesis . § . 68. For if he decreed Christ before the creation , then he foresaw there would be need of him , if so , then he foresaw Adams fall , and then why may he not have foreseen all other mens sins , all contingent future events , of which he is no more the author , and of which there is no more necessity that the free agents should act them , then there was that Adam should sin before he was created . I pray consider this , and it will do your whole businesse . § . 69. But let us examine your reasons , by which you will approve your affirmation , that prescience ab aeterno derogates from omnipotence . You instance in Charls's death , and you might have done the like in the death of Christ , whereof the sacred writ testifies , that it was by the determinate counsell and foreknowledge of God. Now prescience being admitted , say you , it was as certain that King Charles should die , Jan. 30. as now it is that he did die that day , and to that it is consequent , that it could not have been prevented by omnipotence it self . ] Your consequence I deny , sub hâc formâ , because he that saw it would be that day , equally saw , both that he might , and that he would not prevent it . By his omnipotence it is certain , he might , by his will and wisdom , ( now revealed , ) that he would not prevent it , by his Omniscience , that from all eternity he knew he would not , by his very mercy to him , and for other most wise ends , that he would actually deliver him up to the wills of the malicious , able to destroy the body , but no more , which again is founded in his foresight of their malice , and must suppose it . All which makes it as infallible , that God might have prevented it , as that he would not , did not , therefore this is far from derogating from his omnipotence , in this of his not being able to prevent it , the contrary to which is by this our Scheme expressly established . § . 70. This 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ; for my positive answer , you cannot but know already , all the necessity consequent to prescience is the necessity ex hypothesi , it is necessary to be while it is , and because it will be , therefore God foresees it will be , and if men would have done otherwise , God would have foreseen otherwise . § . 71. When you take it for mine acknowledgment then , that God cannot change that which is future , so as to make it not future , I answer , that sensu diviso it is most false , for whatsoever is future , God can change , and make it not future , and then foresee it not future . But if you meant Conjunctim , that remaining future , he could not make it not future , 1. That is a great impropriety of speech , and most unreasonable , that he that speakes of changing , should mean keeping it still as it is , unchanged , and 2. You see the fallacy , that most palpable one , of a benè divisis ad male Conjuncta , which I hope will no longer impose upon you . The ill consequences you feare and exaggerate , should God be thought not to have been able to have prevented it , I shall not need insist on , detesting the thought , as much as is possible , and having so far secured our Scheme from it , that if God foresees not that he could prevent any future whatsoever , I shall not think he foresees any thing . § . 72. So likewise for his goodness , you cannot doubt but I acknowledge that as fully as you , in relation to our salvation : Let us see then how I am obliged to deny this again by admitting his Prescience . Why , say you , if God willingly suffer so many to be damned , whom he might have saved where is his 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ? &c. I answer , just where you your self will , and must place it , unlesse you believe many shall not be damned finally . For 't is most certain , God by his absolute power might have saved all them , that yet are now damned , and the shew of inconvenience is exactly the same , whether God be believed to foresee all things ab aeterno , or no. For suppose we , that God foresaw not , but saw in time as we do every thing that happens in our presence , and suppose we a wicked man filling up the measure of his iniquityes , or ready to die in his sins , I demand might not God , if he would , rescue him out of that state , convert him into a Saint , and assume him , as he did Elias in the sanctified state ? Questionlesse he might , yet without all controversy he doth not thus to every wicked man , for if he did , none should be damned ; Do you now reconcile this with Gods 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , his words and many vehement asseverations , ( as I doubt not but you are well able to do , ) and then review your own question , [ If God willingly suffer so many to be damned whom he might have saved , where is his 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ? ] 'T is not possible you should need more words to disintangle this snarle , and in my former papers I shewd you in this place to what Gods 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 belongs , giving sufficient grace , &c. : to which you reply nothing , and therefore I suppose consent to the truth of it , though 't is sure both that God by his absolute power might do more then he doth , ( and therefore I like not your expression , that he does what omnipotence could performe , citing , Isa . v. 4. In place of it , I should have said , what his covenant , promise , mercy , justice , equity , wisdom , obliged him to do , or what was reconcileable with all these , without interesting his absolute power , or omnipotence in it , ) and that obstinate sinners do actually resist , and frustrate all the methods that are used by him . § . 73. Of the manner of S. Austin's asserting prescience I need not farther insist , then that by the expresse words of that period I produced , he will have it reconciled with the free will of man , which if all would do , there were little more to be required of them . Yet because you have endeavoured to take off the force of S. Austin's words , and from Vives's words on Chapter , IX . ( Quod si indignum , &c. Dicamus à providentia voluntateque Dei cognitionem ejus prosicisci , voluntatem statuere quod futurum sit , scientiam quod volunt as statuerit , nosse , ) to draw him to Calvins sence , I shall read over that IX . Chapter , both Text , and Comment , and give you some passages out of it ; In the Text , 1. That they are much more tolerable that bring in Syderea Fata , a fatality depending on the starrs , then they which take away praescientiam futurorum , foreknowledg of futures : and that it is a most open madness , confiteri Deum & negare praescium futurorum , to confess God , and to deny his prescience . 2. Nos ut confitemur summum & verum Deum , it a voluntatem summamque potestatem & praescientiam ejus consitemur , nec timemus ne ideò voluntate non faciamus quod voluntate facimus , quia id nos facturos esse praescivit cujus praescientia falli non potest , as we confess the supreme and true God , so we confess his will , and supreme power and prescience , neither do we scare least we should not do voluntarily , what we do voluntarily , because he foresaw it , whose prescience cannot be deceived , making it the heathen feare of Cicero , which now is yours , lest the infallibility of the prescience should impose necessity , and frustrate Lawes , exhortations , &c. 3. Nos adversus sacrilegos ausus & Deum dicimus omnia scire , antequam fiant ( marke omnia ) & voluntate nos facere , &c. Contrary to the darings of sacrilegious men , we both affirm that God knowes all things before they are done , and that we do them voluntarily . 4. Novit incommutabiliter omnia quae futura sunt , & quae ipse facturus est , he knowes unchangeably all things which are to come , and which he will do , not onely the latter , but the former , and all of one as well as the other . 5. He that foreknew all the causes of things , among them could not be ignorant of our wills , quas nostrorum operum causas esse praescivit . Which he foresaw to be the causes of our workes . 6. Qui non est praescius omnium futurorum non est utique Deus , he that foresees not things to come , is not God. 7. Of our liberty , Voluntates nostrae tantum valent , quantum Deus eas valere voluit , & praescivit , & ideò quicquid valent , certissime valent , & quod facturae sunt ipsae , omnino facturae sunt , quia valituras atque facturas esse praescivit cujus praescientia falli non potest , our wills can do as much as God will'd and foreknew they were able , and therefore whatsoever they can do , they most certainly can do , and what they will do , they altogether will do , because he foresaw they could and would do it , whose prescience cannot be deceived . Next in Vives's comments you have , Non res futurae ex scientia Dei manant , sed scientia potius Dei ex illis , quae tamen futurae non sunt Deo , ut est error multorum , sed praesentes . Quocirca non recte dicitur praescire , nisi relatione ad actiones nostras , dicendus est scire , videre , cernere . Quod si indignum videtur , &c. Things future do not flow from Gods science , but rather Gods science from them , which yet are not future to God as the error of many is , but present , wherefore he is not rightly said to foresee unlesse it be in relation to our actions , he must be said to know , to see , to perceive , which if it appeare unworthy , &c. There come in the words by you recited , of Gods science coming from his will , which you say is Calvinism , but is not set by Vives to interpret S. Augustin's sence that way , no nor to assert it as his own , but to recite another opinion , that hath lesse impiety in it , then the denying of prescience would have . Thus you see what that Chapter in the Father , or his Commentator gaines you . Mean while I take you at your word that you grant with S. Augustin the prescience of God , and if you grant it with him , you must grant it not onely in things which come to passe necessarily , ( as all that God decrees do , ) but simply in all things , and particularly in those , wherein voluntatis arbitrium retentum , freedom of will retained is concerned , for to those you see he thorow out the IX . and X. Chapters applyes it , and if you grant prescience in them , you grant as much as I desire , if not , you deny it , ( which yet you again say you do not , ) more then S. Augustin . § . 74. What you here add as your conclusion from S. Augustine in his confessions , lib. II. c. 18. videri non possunt sed praedici possunt ex praesentibus quae jam sunt & videntur , they cannot be seen but they may be foretold from those things that are present , and are now seen , and from Origen 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , viz : That Gods knowledge of future contingents is meerly hypotheticall , this being supposed , that will follow , &c. ] I shall now proceed to examine , 1. By a view of your two Testimonies , then of your conclusion from them . And first for S. Augustin's words , they are not spoken of Gods prescience or predictions , but of ours , and that of things coming from natural causes , Intucor auroram , saith he , oriturum solem pronuncio , &c. I behold the morning , I pronounce the Sun will rise . Look and you will see it manifestly , so then it is nothing to Gods prescience of future contingents , and you can conclude nothing from it . § . 75. And for the Chapter in Origen's Philocalia , it cannot be , but you must have noted in it , the weight that he layes on the prediction of Judas's treason , the general resolution , that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , every thing that is future , God sees it will come to passe , ( and yet 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , the foreknower is not cause of all that are foreknown , ) citing from Susanna , 42 , 43. That God is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , the knower of secrets , that knowes all things before they are , then he proposes the question , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , how God from all eternity foreknowing those things that are thought to be done by every man , our free will may be retained . Which he treats against the heathen that say Gods foreknowledge takes away all praise and dispraise , &c. and maintain it just as you do , as you will see , if you compare your , and their arguing . Now to these his answer is , that God from the beginning of the creation of the world , nothing being without a cause , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , by the progresse of his mind thorow all things that are future , sees them , that if this be , that will follow , &c. and so 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , proceeding to the end of things , he knowes what shall be . Which he doth expresse , to shew that he sees the dependence of all things , not from his own will , who by knowing them , as it followes , causes them not , but in a concatenation of humane acts and choises , as when by temerity one walkes inconsiderately , and meeting with a slippery place falls , which he that sees , is no way the cause of his fall , saith he , adding that God foreseeing 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , how qualified every one will be , sees also the causes that he will be so , mean while his foreseeing is not the cause of their being what they are , but though strange , saith he , yet 't is true , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , the thing future is the cause that such a foreknowledge is had of it , for it doth not because it was known come to passe , but because , ( 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , ) it was to come to passe , it was known . Then he comes to a distinction in what sence it is true , that what is foreseen 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 shall altogether be , and states it just as we do all along . From all which , ( that I may now follow , you to your inferences , ) you can with no reason conclude , that it was his and the rest of the Fathers doctrine , that Gods foreknowledge of future contingents is meerly hypotheticall . You see most evidently from their sayings , every where scattered , ( competently by those which I have now set down , ) that this was not their doctrine . And this one passage , if it were favourable to your conceit , ( as it is not , ) yet could in no reason evacuate all others . § . 76. In your conclusion that which I mislike is not the word , [ hypothetical ] but [ meerly ] for that signifies God to have no other foreknowledge but that . I doubt not but of all things that are , God foresees , as Origen's words were , that if this be , that will follow , and so I deny not hypothetical foreknowledge . But I cannot confine Gods foreknowledge to this one head , for why may he not also see , ( and as easily , ) that this , and that will both be ? The principall use of hypothetical foreknowledge , is in things meerly possible , which come not to passe , ( as before I applyed the example of Keilah , which you now mention . ) But what can that have to do with those things , which do actually come to passe , and that meerly by the free will of man , and by no necessity of consequences ? Though , ( as I said , ) even in those , God that sees them as they are , both in their causes , and most casuall , or voluntary mutations , and progression , and all circumstances concomitant , sees one thing following , ( though but freely , not necessarily , ) out of another , first this , and then that , and because this , or upon this motive , therefore that ; Which as it is far from asserting any necessary chain of causes , contrary to the freedome of mans will , which in that very place Origen largely establishes , so it is far from a knowledge meerly hypothetical , for that is not the knowledge of what is , but what will be , if somewhat else make way for it , which being uncertain , whether it will be or not , there can be no determinate knowledge , that the other will be , which is quite contrary to his instances of Judas's betraying Christ , &c. Which were as really and determinately foreseen and foretold , as they were really acted . And therefore I must desire you not to think this favourable to the Socinian's opinion of Gods foreknowledge of future contingents being onely or meerly hypothetical , ( though God foresee hypothetically , yet not onely so , ) or that this key will fit all places of Scripture , which foretell things to come , because it fits the case of Keilah , and Jer. 38 , 17. and some few others . § . 77. I have the more largely insisted on this , because it seemed so likely to mislead you , there being some examples of foreknowledge meerly hypothetical , from whence yet to infer that Gods foreknowledge indefinitely , is meerly such , i. e. that he hath no other , is the same errour as from particular premisses , or from one or two examples to make an universal conclusion . § . 78. On view of your fourth objected inconvenience , you grant all I said in answer to it , onely , say you , the former difficulty seemes to recurre , how A. B. may be truly salvable , when if absolute prescience be granted , his damnation was as certain before he was borne , as it will be when he is in Hell. ] I answer . 1. That in answer to objected inconveniences all that can be required of any man is , to shew that that inconvenience doth not follow , not to establish the principal doctrine again , ( which before had been done by the no implicancy of contradiction , which left it possible for God to foresee future contingents , and then by consideration of his omniscience , which qualifies him to know every thing which is scibile , or the knowing of which implyes no contradiction , and then by the testimonies of the Prophets , who from Gods prescience foretold such futures , ) having therefore done all that was incumbent on me , I had hoped the difficulty would not still have remained , when all I said was granted . But seeing it doth , I answer , 2. That supposing Gods eternal prescience , it cannot but as clearly appeare , that A. B. not onely may be , but is truly salvable , whilst he is in Viâ , as that he is damned , or no longer salvable , when he is in Hell. For supposing A. B. in viâ , to be one , for whom in Gods decree Christ dyed , and supposing Gods eternall prescience of all that is , ( unquestionably of all that he himself will do , as he sure will all that is under his decree . ) It must thence necessarily follow , that God foresees him salvable , and supposing that at length he is damned , it doth but follow , that God foresees him damned ; These two things then by force of praescience are equally cleer , that he is one while salvable , another while damned , and so they are equally certain , and if his having been salvable do not hinder his being damned , then neither will his being damned hinder his having been salvable . He is truly salvable who God foresees will not be saved . How so ? because God truly bestows upon him all means necessary to salvation , and that being all that is required to make him salvable , this is as truly done , when the effect followes not , as when the meanes are most successfull . And Gods prescience of the successlessness , makes no change , hath no influence either on the meanes , or the man , any more then my seeing a thing done hath causality in the doing it . Now if he be salvable , ( though in event he never be saved , but damned , ) and Gods praescience that he is salvable , be as efficacious to conclude him salvable , as his prescience that he is damned , to infer him damned , what a palpable partiality is it to infer from prescience , that his damnation is certain before he is borne , and yet not to infer from the same principle , that his salvability was certain before he was borne ? Nothing can more irrefragably prove the weakness of your inference , then that it is so obvious to retort it . § . 79. The short is , that which is future onely contingently , it is certain that it is foreseen by God , yet till it is , it may be otherwise , and if it be otherwise , God sees it to be otherwise , and what may be otherwise , is not certain to be so , and therefore his damnation is not certain before he is born , which is the direct contradictory to your inference , and that method which will equally infer contradictories , of what force it is to establish truth , I leave you to judge who propounded the difficulty . § . 80. Here then is the errour , because God cannot erre in his foresight , therefore you conclude from supposition of his prescience , that the thing , which you speake of , is certain , when yet it no way appeares to you or me , that God ever foresaw it , but by our supposing that it comes to pass . Hence then comes all the supposed certainty , from supposing it to come to pass , which is the certitudo ex hypothesi , a certainty that it is , as long as it is supposed to be , and then Gods prescience hath nothing to do with it , but it would be as certain without supposing Gods prescience , as now it is by supposing it . And now would you have me shew you how A. B. is truly salvable whilst you retain your supposition that he is damned ? This , if you marke , is your difficulty , for you have no other ground to suppose that God foresees him damned , but because you suppose him damned , and seeing it is , you see what a taske you have set me , even to make two members of a contradiction true together . This I confesse I cannot do , and I grant God cannot , yet thus much I will do for you , I will mind you , that even when A. B. is in Hell , the proposition is still true , that A. B. when he was on earth was salvable , and if it be true when he is in Hell , I appeale to you whether it be not true , when God foresees he will be in Hell , doth Gods foreseeing him in hell impede more then his actuall being in it ? If not , then notwithstanding Gods prescience , A. B. is salvable , and so now I hope you see both that , and how he is so . § . 81. In your fifth inconvenience , you still adhere that you think it scarcely reconcileable with that determinate prescience which I hold , for God seriously to call those whom he foresees ab aeterno that they will not repent . But you take no heed to the place of Scripture , which I demonstrated it by , turne you , turne you , why will you dye ? and , as I live , I delight not in the death of him that dyes , where it is evident , God seriously , ( if an oath be a note of seriousnesse , ) calls those who dye and will dye . Why do you not lay this to heart , when it is so cleare , and ( you yet give me your leave to say , ) unanswerable ? § . 82. I said , when God calls to a man not to fall , he is not fallen , and , you say true , but he is fallen in Gods prescience . ] I now ask you , how you know he is ? Your onely possible answer is , that if he be fallen , then by the doctrine of prescience , God must foresee him fallen , and you now by way of supposition , ( which 't is lawfull for disputations sake to make , ) take it for granted , i. e. suppose he is fallen . And then , ( as even now I said , ) to your voluntary supposition all is due , and with that I cannot reconcile the contradictory , and so still what is this to prescience ? § . 83. Again you conclude , that God sees , A. B. will never rise again , how do you know , or imagine God sees it , but because you suppose it true , that he will never rise again ? and if it be true , then it is also infallibly true , whether God see it or no. And so still what have you gained , your supposing it true is it to which adheres the supposition of Gods foreseeing , and infallibility consequent to that , but that addes no weight to that which was before supposed infallible . § . 84. Again you aske , can God seriously call him , who [ he sees ] will never repent , seriously do that he sees useless , and absolutely ineffectuall ? ] I have oft told you , and proved to you , that he may , 't is certain he called Pharaoh , when he had predicted he would not hearken , and he most seriously doth things to salvifick ends , which do not eventually attain those ends , and he foresees they do not . § . 85. I said that what God doth thus in time , he ab aeterno decreed to do , this ( as it is apparent by the antecedent , to which the relative [ thus ] belongs , ) I spake of Gods calling men , some not to fall , others to rise again , and you reply , that it seemes to you utterly improbable that God should do whatsoever he doth , by an antecedent decree . ] I have no temptation to leave our present taske , which is sufficient for the day , to dispute that question with you in the latitude , as your , ( whatsoever he doth , ) importeth . It will suffice , if God doth any thing by an antecedent decree , or decree any thing before he do it , for if any thing , then sure his calls and warnings , which are parts of his covenant of grace , and that is sub decreto , decreed by him . And then what I said before , is still of full force , Gods foreseeing mens disobediences to his calls , was in order of nature posteriour and subsequent to his decree of calling and giving them grace , and being so , cannot move him to change what went before , or presently to disannull it , and till it be disannulled , 't is certain , and exacted by veracity , that he act according to it , i. e. that he call those seriously , who yet he foresees resist him . Why you should here farther inlarge , of the greater improbability , that God should without consideration decree what afterward he perceives would be uselesse , I guess not , being sure no words of mine gave you temptation to think that I affixt inconsiderate decrees to our God of all wisdome , or counted those calls uselesse , which through our obstinacy , ( onely ) faile of their designed good effect . § . 86. No more did I give you cause for that harsh-sounding phrase of Gods necessarily pursuing it , because it was decreed . ] I should rather have suggested to you these words , instead of them , that God is faithfull , and just , and veracious , and so performes his part of the covenant of grace with men , howsoever they are , ( and he foresees them , ) wanting to their own part . § . 87. What you say you understand not in my last papers , I thus explaine ; those calls of God which the obdurate reject , are most seriously meant by God to their reformation , else he would not punish them for rejecting them , as he doth by withdrawing them , &c. This God decrees to do ab aeterno , which he could not , unlesse he soresaw their rejection of them , and yet neither could he foresee their so criminal rejecting them , unlesse he foresaw the seriousnesse of them , and if he foresaw that , then it is as certain as any thing , that God foresees that they are serious , and although God do not actually inflict punishment upon bare foresight of sin , yet sure he may decree to punish those whom he foresees to deserve it , and that is all that is necessary to my arguing . Else I might tell you that God that accepts not a temporary faith , will never accept such a man as is answerable to the stony , or thorny ground , ( who in time of tryall would fall away , ) though he should be taken away before temptations approach . § . 88. In that of Judas , you grant that the prophecy , as terminated in him , could not have been fulfilled , had he never been born , but then your quere remaines , say you , whether it might not have been fullfilled in another ? ] I answer , 1. it could not have been fullfilled in another , without some other disciples doing what he did , and 't is certain no other did so , and therefore what was foretold must have been fulfilled in him , or else , ( which may not be believed of a divine Oracle , ) had not been fulfilled . But then , 2. Christs words to John pointing out Judas for the Traitour , he that dippeth , &c. was a prediction of God perfectly terminated in Judas's person , and could not be fulfilled in any other , and so your new quere is answered also . And that gives you a farther reason , ( if what was said before to your second quere were not sufficient , ) that our Saviours prediction was not conditional , but categorically enunciative , verily I say unto you that one of you shall or will betray me , and he that dippeth , at that time when Christ spake it , deictically , i. e. Judas , is that person . § . 89. In your view of what I said to your second question , you first insist on my answer , that the event proved the denunciation against Iudas was not like that against Niniveh conditional , but I foresaw the small force of that , which I used onely 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , and therefore added a second , that the prediction of Iudas was of his sin , as well as punishment , and the prediction of his sin , could not be conditional , nor the prediction of the Ninivites punishment any way be applicable to it , leaving therefore the weaker , I adhered onely to this , which when you labour also to evacuate , by interpreting , [ one of you will betray me , ] by [ unlesse he repent , &c. he will betray me . ] You consider not , 1. that Christs death , as it was from all eternity decreed by God , so it was oft predicted by Christ , and his resurrection , and many other things depending on it , and among these still the treachery of one of his disciples is one , and that is not reconcileable with this interpretation . 2. That foreseeing that he would be so disposed , as unlesse he repented he would betray him , is the foretelling of a future contingent . 3. That one particular prediction , wherein Iudas was deictically signified , was private to S. Iohn , that lay in Iesus his bosome , as appeares , Ioh. XIII . 24 , 25 , 26. And though the words to Iudas himself , Mat. XXVI . 15. may better beare that sence you assigne , yet the words to Iohn , which Iudas heard not , could be no such admonition to Iudas , and therefore were without question absolute , and so those other to Peter verily I say to thee , before the Cockcrow twice , thou shalt deny me thrice , when he had professed he would rather die , then deny him , are not easily healed with this 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , [ unlesse thou repent thou wilt deny me , ] for assuredly Peter meant not now to deny Christ , but resolved the contrary , and therefore had nothing to repent of in this behalfe . And when you seeme to demonstrate it could not be absolute , because Judas might confessedly have repented , and if he had , then it must have been interpreted conditionally , I answer according to my hypothesis , that if Iudas had repented , Christ had never foreseen , or declared of him , as he doth , i. e. that he should betray him . § . 90. But , say you , you see not why a conditional prediction may not be applyable as wel to the prevention of sin , as of punishment , ] I shall shew you why it may not , because the punishment is Gods work , and for the averting of that there is force in the Ninivites repentance , which is the condition required on their part , on the performance of which God hath generally promised to suspend his punishments , and therefore the threats are conditional , which in equity will not be inflicted , if the condition be performed . But the sin is man's work and to the commission of that no other party contributes but himself , and so neither is the prediction of it a threat , but a down-right enunciation , neither is there any condition imaginable to be performed on the other party , answerable to the other case , unlesse God should forcibly interpose to avert it , ( and that cannot be imagined to be the meaning , [ except I restrain Judas he will betray me , ] or if it were , it were still an act of Gods absolute foreknowledge , that he will do so , if not violently restrained ) all probable meanes to his amendment , and particularly the admitting him to the Sacrament being , saith S. Chrysostom , already used to him , and yet , saith Christ , he will betray me . 91. Now for defence of your Postscript , and the contradiction which that charged on our hypothesis , I pray marke the Issue of it . If you can prove that it implyes a contradiction for God to foresee future contingents , then you certainly prevaile , as on the other side if you succeed not in this attempt , you must resolve your opinion erroneous , because nothing being impossible to God but to lie , and so to make good both parts of a contradiction , if prescience bring not this consequence , it must be possible to God , how inexplicable or unintelligible soever it be to me , who for want of facultatem analogam , cannot judge of the actions of an eternal God , and if it be yeilded possible , then the predictions of Scripture will be proofes beyond question of the truth of it . To this one test then let us come . The contradiction you assigned was , our saying , that things future are or may be present to God. I shewed you the definition of contradictoryes was not competible to these , of which est and non est is the known example , and present and future are neither present and not present nor future and not future . And again in contradictions both parts must be considered in the same respects , whereas future being enunciated in respect of us , and our finite sight , present is exprest to be in respect of God , whose science is immense , and infinite . § . 92. Now to this you reply , 1. That present and future , though they are not formal contradictions , yet really and in sence they are , for future is that that is not present , but to come , and present and not present are formally contradictory . 2. That my concession that no finite thing can both be present and future is enough for you , for God cannot be present to that which is not present to him . ] I now answer to your first , that there is nothing so false , that I cannot make good by this your arguing . In particular , by this the doctrine of the Trinity and Vnity were equally confuted , for Trinitas in the wonted notion is not one , but three , and one , and not one , are formally contradictory . This is the direct image and transcript of your arguing , mutatis mutandis , yet I know you deny not the Tri-unus Deus , how then can you on no better proofe deny prescience ? The Socinian's conformably deny both , but you are partial , and deny but one of them . It is never safe to despise the ordinary rules of art , but seldome more dangerous then in this , whereas if Logick were duely revered in it's dictates , and nothing thought contradictory in sence , but what is an affirmation , and negation of the same thing , this intricacy would be unfolded , and that which is future to me , be present to God , without the encumbrance or dread of a contradiction . § . 93. To the second I answer , that it cannot suffice to your pretensions , that no finite thing is both present and future , meaning , ( as it is plaine I did , ) in the same respect , present and future to me : When yet what is future to me , may be present to one that lives a year hence , and so much more to God who liveth for ever . When therefore in your proof you seeme to suppose me to hold , that what is future to me , is not present to God , you did mistake me , for as I said , that God being immense may and must be present to that which is future , or else he is bounded and limited , and so not immense , infinite , so I deemed that , which God is thus present to , to be objectively present to him , and so it was from all eternity , though to us it be not yet present , but future . So that the other part of the definition of contradictoryes , if it had been adverted to , had superseded this part of your answer also , viz. that it is the affirmation and negation of the same thing in the same respects , as here you see it was not , and so was not usefull to you . § . 94. But say you , if all future contingents are and ab aeterno were all present to God , then they are all eternall . ] I deny that consequence , what is finite , and in it self yet future , by it's objective presence to God , is not changed into eternall , nay even that which really is , and so is really , ( and not onely objectively , ) present to him , is yet as far from eternall , as Christ's body , by being united to his infinite divinity is from becoming infinite . This then was but a Sophisme that you will soon see thorow . § . 95. And so your other part of the same passage of S. Augustin Confess . L. II. c. 18 , that again you resort to , was in effect formerly answered , by shewing that it belonged onely to what is future , and present to us , and so to our sight , not to Gods. I have now gone thorow your papers and wearied you , and almost my self , yet if what is written prove usefull to you , to the depositing that which I cannot but deem an Errour , although I lay no Epithets upon it , it will be far from burthenous to Your very affectionate friend and servant H. HAMMOND . POSTSCRIPT . § . 96. TO extricate you finally out of this difficulty , I shall desire you by way of recapitulation , to consider apart these two propositions , the first that Gods science being as immense and infinite , as himself , is not limited to things past or present , or futures , by him decreed , but extends to all that ever shall be , or may be ; to what may be , so as to see it may be , though it be not , to what shall be , so as to see it come to passe , as in time it doth come to passe , contingent things , contingently , &c. Of which proposition if there can be any doubt to any man , who stedfastly believes Gods immensity , let the predictions recorded in the Scripture be considered , those especially which are of sinnes , which it is as impossible for God to decree or predetermine , as to cause , and yet he foresees and foretells them , witnesse Christs foretelling Peter , that he should deny him thrice , when Peter himself was so far from foreseeing , or purposing it , that he resolved the contrary . The second proposition , that there are future contingents , that all the sinnes ( at least ) of men are not decreed , and predetermined by God , or caused by any necessity . Of which no man can doubt , which believes the Scripture , and therein the procedure of the judgement to come , the difference in respect of guilt and punishment betwixt voluntary and involuntary actions , ( the motions of men and of stones , ) and again the exhortations and menaces of God in Scripture , and the great seriousnesse , exprest , and protestations prefixt to them . § . 97. If taking these propositions apart , any Christian can doubt of the truth of either of them , he sees the shelves he splits upon , and the shipwrack of a great part of the Faith , whither on this , or that side . But if he cannot but assent to these truths severally , and onely wants the skill of reconciling the seeming difficulties which they beget , when he attempts to put them together , ( of which sort are all the inconveniences , or objections , produced in this matter , ) let him on that occasion consider , how ( more then ) credible it is , that he doth not understand all things , that are , having but finite facultyes , and finite measures , which are not proportioned to infinite powers , or objects ; Which makes it most seasonable to supersede all farther enquiries , and to acquiesce in an assurance , that God can reconcile his own contradictions , such I meane , as though by the known rules of Logick they appeare to be really no contradictions , yet by us are conceived to approach nere to such , through prejudice , or thinking ( not too little , but rather ) too much upon them . In which case to restrain our farther searches is the same necessary mortification , which it is to restrain inordinate appetites , and is a principall peice of duty owing to the Apostles precept of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , being wise to sobriety : God give the world of Christian professors more of it , then is yet discernible among them . FINIS . THE LAST VVORDS OF THE Reverend , Pious and Learned Dr. HAMMOND : Being Two PRAYERS for the Peaceful re-settlement of this Church and State. Prayer I. O Blessed Lord , who in thine infinite mercy didst vouchsafe to plant a glorious Church among us , and now in thy just judgment hast permitted our sins and follies to root it up , be pleased at last to resume thoughts of peace towards us , that we may do the like to one another . Lord , look down from heaven , the habitation of thy holiness , and behold the ruines of a desolated Church , and compassionate to see her in the dust . Behold her , O Lord , not onely broken , but crumbled , divided into so many sects and fractions , that she no longer represents the Ark of the God of Israel , where the Covenant and the Manna were conserved , but the Ark of Noah , filled with all various sorts of unclean beasts ; and to complete our misery and guilt , the spirit of division hath insinuated it self as well into our affections as our judgments ; that badge of Discipleship which thou recommendedst to us , is cast off , and all the contrary wrath and bitterness , anger and clamor , called in to maintain and widen our breaches . O Lord , how long shall we thus violate and defame that Gospel of peace that we profess ? how long shall we thus madly defeat our selves , lose that Christianity which we pretend to strive for ? O thou which makest men to be of one mind in an house , be pleased so to unite us , that we may be perfectly joyned together in the same mind , and in the same judgment . And now that in Civil affairs there seems some aptness to a composure , O let not our Spiritual differences be more unreconcilable . Lord , let not the roughest winds blow out of the Sanctuary ; let not those which should be thy Embassadors for peace still sound a Trumpet for war : but do thou reveal thy self to all our Eliah's in that still small voice , which may teach them to eccho thee in the like meek treating with others . Lord , let no unseasonable stiffness of those that are in the right , no perverse obstinacy of those that are in the wrong , hinder the closing of our wounds ; but let the one instruct in meekness , and be thou pleased to give the other repentance to the acknowledgment of the Truth . To this end do thou , O Lord , mollifie all exasperated minds , take off all animosities and prejudices , contempt and heart-burnings , and by uniting their hearts prepare for the reconciling their opinions : and that nothing may intercept the clear sight of thy truth , Lord , let all private and secular designs be totally deposited , that gain may no longer be the measure of our Godliness , but that the one great and common concernment of ruth and peace may be unanimously and vigorously pursued . Lord , the hearts of all men are in thy hands , O be thou pleased to let thy Spirit of peace overshadow the minds of all contending parties ; and , if it be thy will , restore this Church to her pristine state , renew her dayes as of old , let her escape out of Egypt , be so entire , that not an hoof may be left behind : But if thy wisdom see it not yet a season for so ful a deliverance , Lord , defer not , we beseech thee , such a degree of it ; as may at least secure her a being ; if she cannot recover her beauty , yet , O Lord , grant her health , such a soundness of constitution as may preserve her from dissolution . Let thy providence find out some good Samaritans to cure her present wounds : and to whomsoever thou shalt commit that important work , Lord , give them skilful hands and compassionate hearts ; direct them to such applications as may most speedily , and yet most soundly , heal the hurt of the daughter of Sion ; and make them so advert to the interests both of truth and peace , that no lawful condescension may be omitted , nor any unlawful made . And do thou , who art both the wonderful Counsellor and Prince of peace , so guide and prosper all pacifick endeavors , that all our distractions may be composed , and our Jerusalem may again become a City at unity in it self ; that those happy primitive dayes may at length revert , wherein Vice was the onely heresie ; that all our intestine contentions may be converted into a vigorous opposition of our common enemy , our unbrotherly feuds into a Christian zeal against all that exalts it self against the obedience of Christ . Lord , hear us , and ordain peace for us , even for his sake whom thou hast ordained our Peace-maker , Jesus Christ our Lord. Prayer II. O Most gracious Lord , who doest not afflict willingly , nor grieve the children of men , who smitest not till the importunitie of our sins enforce thee , and then correctest in measure , we thy unworthy creatures humbly acknowledge that we have abundantly tasted of this patience and lenity of thine . To what an enormous height were our sins arriv'd ere thou beganst to visit them ! and when thou couldst no longer forbear , yet mastering thy power , thou hast not proportion'd thy vengeance to our crimes , but to thy own gracious design of reducing and reclaiming us . Lord , had the first stroke of thy hand been exterminating , our guilts had justified the method ; but thou hast proceeded by such easy and gentle degrees , as witness how much thou desiredst to be interrupted , and shew us , that all that sad weight we have long groaned under , hath been accumulated onely by our own incorrigibleness . 'T is now , O Lord , these many years that this Nation hath been in the furnace , and yet our drosse wasts not but increases ; and it is owing onely to thy unspeakable mercy , that we , who would not be purified , are not consumed ; that we remain a Nation , who cease not to be a most sinfull , and provoking nation . O Lord , let not this long-suffering of thine serve onely to upbraid our obstinacy , and enhanse our guilt ; but let it at last have the proper effect on us , melt our hearts , and lead us to repentance . And oh , that this may be the day for us thus to discern the things that belong to our peace ! that all who are ( yea , and all who are not ) cast down this day in an external humiliation , may by the operation of thy mighty Spirit have their souls laid prostrate before thee in a sincere contrition ! O thou who canst out of the very stones raise up children unto Abraham , work our stony flinty hearts into such a temper as may be malleable to the impressions of thy grace , that all the sinners in Sion may tremble ; that we may not by a persevering obstinacy seal to our selves both temporal and eternal ruine , but instead of our mutinous complaining at the punishments of our sins , search and try our ways , and turn again to the Lord. O be thou pleas'd to grant us this one grand fundamental mercy , that we who so impatiently thirst after a change without us , may render that possible and safe by this better and more necessary change within us ; that our sins may not , as they have so often done , interpose and eclipse that light which now begins to break out upon us . Lord , thy dove seems to approach us with an olive-branch in her mouth , oh let not our silth and noysomness chace her away ; but grant us that true repentance which may at one thee , and that Christian charity which may reconcile us with one another . Lord , let not our breach either with thee or among our selves be incurable , but by making up the first prepare us for the healing of the latter . And because , O Lord , the way to make us one fold is to have one shepheard , be pleas'd to put us all under the conduct of Him to whom that charge belongs ; bow the hearts of this people as of one man , that the onely contention may be who shall be most forward in bringing back our David . O let none reflect on their past guilts as an argument to persevere , but repent , and to make their return so sincere as may qualify them not onely for his but thy Mercy . And , Lord , be pleas'd so to guide the hearts of all who shall be intrusted with that great concernment of setling this nation , that they may weigh all their deliberations in the ballance of the Sanctuary , that conscience , not interest , may be the ruling principle , and that they may render to Caesar the things that are Caesars , and to God the things that are Gods ; that they may become healers of our breaches , and happy repairers of the sad ruines both in Church and State : and grant , O Lord , that as those sins which made them are become Nationall , so the repentance may be Nationall also , & that evidenc'd by the proper fruits of it , by zeal of restoring the rights both of thee and thine Anointed . And doe thou , O Lord , so dispose all hearts , and remove all obstacles , that none may have the will , much lesse the power , to hinder his peaceable restitution . And , Lord , let him bring with him an heart so intirely devoted to thee , that he may wish his own honour onely as a means to advance thine . O let the precepts and example of his Blessed Father never depart from his mind ; and as thou wert pleas'd to perfect the one by suffering , so perfect the other by acting thy will ; that He may be a blessed instrument of replanting the power instead of the form of Godliness among us , of restoring Christian vertue in a prophane and almost barbarous Nation . And if any wish him for any distant ends , if any desire his shadow as a shelter for their riots and licenciousnesse , O let him come a great but happy defeat to all such , not bring fewel , but cure , to their inordinate appetites ; and by his example as a Christian , and his Authority as a King , so invite to good , and restrain from evil , that he may not onely release our temporall , but our spiritual bondage , suppress those foul and scandalous vices which have so long captivated us , and by securing our inward , provide for the perpetuating our outward peace . Lord , establish thou his throne in righteousnesse , make him a signall instrument of thy glory and our happinesse , and let him reap the fruits of it in comfort here , and in blisse hereafter ; that so his earthly Crown may serve to enhanse and enrich his heavenly . Grant this , O King of Kings , for the sake and intercession of our Blessed Mediator , Jesus Christ . THE END . LONDON , Printed for Richard Royston at the Angel in Ivie-lane , 1660. Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A45400-e220 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , 2. Pet. 1. 5. Notes for div A45400-e1240 Five Positions agreed on by all . Three heads of difficulty . Of reconciling Praescience with Liberty of Contingency . Of the manner and measure of the cooperation of Effectuall Grace with the free will of man. How to attribute all good to God , and evil to our selves . * Matth xi . † Rom. x. Saint Pauls O the Depth . An History of Doctor Sandersons thoughts in these points . D. Twiss his way . Causes of rejecting it . * L. 1. digr . 9. † Ibid. digr . 10. The Supralapsarians way , The Sublapsarians . Reasons against both . The negative part sufficient to Peace , &c , Our Churches moderation . The Kings Declaration in order to Peace . Good life . Difference between Opinions and Conjectures . Three Propositions concerning Gods Decrees , Mans Fall. The giving of Christ for Mankind . The new Covenant , The Decree of publishing the Gospel to all the world , Evangelical Obedience , Matters of Conjecture . The first . The object of Scripture Election . All Scripture decrees conditionate , Temerity of introducing absolute Decrees . Whether the heathens have Evangelical Grace . Of the condition of those to whom the Gospel is not revealed , Four Considerations concerning them . The first . The second , The third . De lib. A●bit . l. 3. c. 16 , The fourth . The second Conjecture an undoubted truth . Inward grace annexed to the Ministry of the Gospel . The third Conjecture of effectual Grace and Scripture-Election and Reprobation . Animadversions on this Conjecture . The first . The second from Scripture . And Reason . In Ep. ad Epictes . In libel . de fide & symbolo , in Tom. iii. And the unreconcile ableness of this conjecture with making man preach'd to , the object of the Decrees . The Doctrine of supereffluence of Grace to some , acknowledged . But this of supereffluence no part of the Covenant of grace . * ●●d . Bera●●●th . Difficulties concerning supereffluence . I. Whether it be not Resistible . II. Whether it belong not rather to providence then Grace . III. Whether this be it to which Election is determined . Considerations from Scripture opposed to the former conjecture . Luk. ix , 62 Act. xiii . 48. Jo. vii . 17. Mat. xiii . 8. Luc , viii , 15 , Mat , xiii , 1● , Jam , iv , 6 , Mat , xi , 5 , Mat. xix . 14. and v. 3. Luc. vi . 22. 1 Cor. 1. 27. The ground of Effectualness of grace more probably deduced from probity of heart . * ●er . iv . 3. This probity no natural preparation , but of Gods planting by preventing grace . The one objection against this satisfied * Mat. xiii . 13. The safeness of this stating . * 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , Tit. Bostr . Compared with the other . * Cap. iv . 5. An Anacephalaecsis of the Doctrine of Gods Decreess Of Election . Of Reprobation . The Conclusion . Of the Efficacy of Grace . The Power of Grace in conversion , &c What the freedome of will now it . Ability to sin . All good due to Grace . Predetermination and irresistibility , How unreconcileable with Christian principles . Of Arminians attributing too little to Grace . Of Judas whether he were not converted . * Joh. xvii . 12 , Whence discrimination comes . From mans liberty to resist . From Gods Preventions . Nothing imputed to man but power of resisting . The whole work of conversion to Grace . Of the congruous manner &c. making Grace effectuall . This a member of the former Conjecture . Fortiter & suaviter . What is the only question here . Mat. xi . 21. a special prejudice to the Conjecture . Consistance of Grace and free will. The difficulties in the Schoolmens way whence . How easily superseded . Of falling from Grace . Our Article . Grounds of it in Scripture . In the old Testament . Ch. iii. 20. & xviii . 24. In the 〈◊〉 . Luk. xxii . 32 Joh. xxi . 25. Mar. xiv . 29 , 31. Joh. xvii . 12. & vi . 37. 1 Tim. 1. 20. 2 Tim. ii . 17. 1 Cor. x. 12. 2 Pet. ii . 21. S. Augustin . Of perseverance of the elect . Mat. 24. 30. Heb. 10. 30. Temporary faith may be true . The elect subject to intercisions . The falls of those that have been once regenerate no more reconcileable with Gods favour then of the unregenerate . Nay the advantage is on the unregenerates part . 1 Tim. 1. 13. Certainty of the object . Certatinty of the subject . 〈…〉 . Of Gods favour to rebellious children No comfort for such from 2 Tim. ii . 19. The Marcusians heresie in this point , a good warning . The Conclusion . Notes for div A45400-e12030 Two difficultyes . An argument from the unfathomableness of Gods providence . The distinction between providence and grace . The force thereof against the forementioned conjecture . Other considerations to prejudice it . The other way confirmed from the parable of the sower . The question what makes sufficient grace effectuall . Punctually answered by Christ . The fourfold difference of soile . The one question divided into foure . The first . The second . The third . The fourth . The Character of the honest heart . The Conjecture compared with this other way . One pretension for the Conjecture , From the finding the hidden treasure . The conversion of Augustine . Of Saul . The distant fate of two children . Answered . The point of the difficulty Whether the barely sufficient Grace be universally inefficacious . No pretense for this . Providence allowed to assist Grace . But is of no force to the Question . A Phansie of Gods giving the Elect ipsam non-resistentiam Examined , and found weake . Considered in relation to this phansie . Phil. ii . 13. The second difficultye . Concerning Gods withdrawing sufficient grace . The severall wayes of Gods withdrawing grace . The first rather with-holding . Consists with his affording sufficient . The second . Not totall . The third totall , but only for the time , and neither simply totall . Rom. li. 4. The fourth total , yet it self designed as a Grace , most effectuall of any . 2 Cor. xiii . 10. 1 Tim. i. 20. Gods punishments instruments of his Grace . The fifth totall and finall withdrawing of all Grace by excision . The sixth before excision . The word is not accompanied with Grace to the damned , or the highest degree of obdurate . Rom. 1. 1● . Where any softness , none of that . Pharaoh the onely example of it in Scripture . Rom. ix . 17. Notes for div A45400-e16090 Necessitas ex hypothesi . Objective being . Socinus's doctrine . Calvins . Gods foresight of sins . Difference betwixt Praedetermination and Praevision . Omniscience proportionable to Omnipotence . Future contingents with in Gods reach . Proved by Gods immensity . Socinus's argument answered . Of the contradiction . A second objection . Inconveniences enumerated and answered . The first . The second . The third . The fourth . The fifth . The foreseeing of Judas's sin . The argument from thence defended . Hom. 83. ●● Mat. The ground of our assertion Gods immensity , and the no implicancy of a contradiction . Gods immensity extends to the knowledge of all things possible . An objection against that answered . Gods immensity supposed not proved . A second objection . What is meant by commensuration to all time . A third objection . Answered . What is future is objicible to God. So what is meerly possible . A fourth objection answered . Orat. 4● . No proportion between our finite and Gods infinite . Asist objection answered . God may know that which actually is not . A sixt objection answered . Gods seeing every thing as it is . A seventh objection answered . An eigth objection answered . Difference between possible and future . All Gods acts are not ab aeterno . A ninth objection answered . Gods knowledge suitable to his power , Gods coexistence to all that ever is , not to what never shall be . The enforcements of the former objections answered . The first enforcement of the first . The second . Possible and meerly possible differ . Scientia media . The third de Fato . The first nforcement of the second . The second . The third . Great difference betwixt rendring and finding certain . The great consequence of this difference . The defence of the objected inconveniences , answered . The first . The second . Prescience makes not exhortations vain . The example of Pharoah . Acts of Gods wisdome not submitted to our censure . Gods antecedent and consequent will. The uneffectuallness of Gods acts not chargeable on him ; Force not competible to a rational vineyard . The third . Wilfull falls are not unavoidable . Nor made so by Gods prescience . Gods love to mankind engages him not to prevent them by death , whose fall be foresees . If it did , it is nothing to the case of prescience here . Adams sin foreseen by God , yet not prevented . Evidence that it was foreseen , The same of all other sinnes . That prescience derogates not from omnipotence . Gods prescience derogates not from his goodness . S. Augustine and Lud. Vives their sense of prescience . Philocal . c. 23. c. 11. Origens testimony . p. 72. p. 73. Ibid. Ibid. Ibid. Hypothetical . foreknowledg . The fourth 's Salvability of Judas as conclusible from Prescience , as damnation . The fifth . Gods serious call to those who he sees will die . Gods foresight of mans rejecting his calls and the criminousness thereof a proof of the seriousnes of them . The predictions of Judas could not be fulfilled in another , Not conditionall . So that of Peters denyall . Prediction of sin cannot be conditionall . The issue of the whole question whether prescience of contingents imply a contradiction . The lawes of contradictions . The argument , holds equally against the Trinity , and unity . What is present to God , is not eternall . Two propositions . The first of God immense science . The proof of it . The second of contingency and liberty . The proof of it . The conclusion .