A discours apologetical; wherein Lilies lewd and lowd lies in his Merlin or Pasqil for the yeer 1654. are cleerly laid open; his shameful desertion of his own cause is further discovered; his shameless slanders fullie refuted; and his malicious and murtherous mind, inciting to a general massacre of Gods ministers, from his own pen, evidentlie evinced. Together with an advertisement concerning two allegations produced in the close of his postscript. And a postscript concerning an epistle dedicatorie of one J. Gadburie. By Tho. Gataker B.D. autor [sic] of the annotations on Jer. 10.2 and of the vindication of them. Gataker, Thomas, 1574-1654. 1654 Approx. 303 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 57 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. Text Creation Partnership, Ann Arbor, MI ; Oxford (UK) : 2008-09 (EEBO-TCP Phase 1). 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A85827) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 114689) Images scanned from microfilm: (Thomason Tracts ; 112:E731[1]) A discours apologetical; wherein Lilies lewd and lowd lies in his Merlin or Pasqil for the yeer 1654. are cleerly laid open; his shameful desertion of his own cause is further discovered; his shameless slanders fullie refuted; and his malicious and murtherous mind, inciting to a general massacre of Gods ministers, from his own pen, evidentlie evinced. Together with an advertisement concerning two allegations produced in the close of his postscript. And a postscript concerning an epistle dedicatorie of one J. Gadburie. By Tho. Gataker B.D. autor [sic] of the annotations on Jer. 10.2 and of the vindication of them. Gataker, Thomas, 1574-1654. [8], 104 p. Printed by R. Ibbitson for Thomas Newberry, at the three Lions in Cornhil, neer the Royal Exchange., London, : 1654. The "advertisement" is largely an attack on Richard Carpenter. 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Carpenter, Richard, d. 1670? -- Early works to 1800. 2007-05 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2007-06 Apex CoVantage Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2008-01 John Pas Sampled and proofread 2008-01 John Pas Text and markup reviewed and edited 2008-02 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion A Discours Apologetical ; WHEREIN Lilies lewd and lowd Lies in his Merlin or Pasqil for the Yeer 1654. are cleerly laid open ; His shameful Desertion of his own cause is further discovered ; His shameless Slanders fullie refuted ; and his Malicious and Murtherous Mind , inciting to a general Massacre of Gods Ministers , from his own Pen , evidentlie evinced . Together with an ADVERTISEMENT Concerning two ALLEGATIONS Produced in the close of his POSTSCRIPT . And a POSTSCRIPT concerning An Epistle Dedicatorie of one J. Gadburie . By The-Gataker B. D. Autor of the Annotations on Jer. 10. 2. and of the Vindication of them . LONDON , Printed by R. Ibbitson for Thomas Newberry , at the three Lions in Cornhil , neer the Royal Exchange . 1654. The Contents of the ensuing DISCOURS . LIlies Merlins meer Pasqils Page 1 His whole Answer , as usuallie , a peece of meer scurrilitie 1 , 6 His former grounds of his Art given by him deserted . 2 , 6 Not a word of the good Angels that first taught it ibid. How uneqal a match for anie ingenuous person to deal with a Railer 3 By freqent railing , and being railed at , men grow shameless ib. In such bickerings no honor to overcome ; to be overcome , no dishonor 3 , 4 Star-gazers for money can tell that of trifles , which of weightier occurrents they cannot 4 Jacob Behmens writings , of what stamp 4 A Northern Lilie prophesied of by him 5 Lilies immodest and scurrilous language unworthy regard 5 , 6 To what purpose Mr. G. qotes Autors , Heathen , and others 6 Some necessity imposed on him of answering some scandalous aspersions 7 A good name , fo what worth , and how much to be regarded 7 , 8 Yet a good Conscience to be preferred before it 8 , 9 No good duty to be omitted for fear of disgrace 9 A great grace to be disgraced for Christ ibid. Mark the Emperor , tho a Stoick , how careful to cleer himself from calumnies 9 , 12 From the imputation of Avarice , especially 10 What care and caution Ministers ought to have in this kind ●0 The word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 how taken , 1 Tim. 3. 6 , 7. Eph. 4. 27. 10 A common liars word , no slander 11 Infamous persons defamation , no infamie 11 Reproaches of such rather matter of praise , their praises of dispraise Page 11 The falsest reports , tho never so well cleared , leav some sear oft behind . 11 Most folk suspicious , and prone to suspect the worst ibid. Mr. G● . resolution to undertake this Apologie 12 Lilies former slanderous Charge 12 An ill presage to begin ill , with a gross untruth , especially 12 , 13 So begins Li●ie , that Mr. G. was sometime a stiff Prelate 13 14 , 23 And that then he preached impudent●ie for Sabbath-sports 13 , 15 , 19 , 23 Of the three Names given the Day , which most proper 14 , 15 Mr. Gs. constant cours of preaching for , and pressing the due observation of the Lords day 15 , 19 , 22 , 23 The Lords Day no Day for complemental Visitations 15 Nor for entertainment of Clients 16 Nor for riding Circuits , or hearing Causes 19 The change of the Lecture-times at Lincoln-Inne , with the ground thereof 16 The Lords Day , Gods Mart , or Market Day 18 The Christian Sabbath 14 15 King James his book for Sabbath-sports 20 , 22 That Mr. G. preached in defence of it , a notorious untruth 20 , 21 Mr. Gs. Treatise of Lots , and the subject matter thereof 21 How far forth Cards or Dice are therein justified 21 , 22 No liberty therein for Sabbath-sports allowed , but expreslie opposed 22 , 23 Another stander , that Mr. G. turned Presbyterian in hope of Bishops and Deans lands 12 , 23 , 24 Mr. Gs. constant judgement both of Prelacie and Presbyterie 24 , 25 , 26 Men moderatelie minded suffer usuallie from extreams on either side 26 , 27 The frivolous pretended ground of Mr. G● . re●ol● 27 , 28 Mr. Carpenters scurrilous Relation of the Presbyters birth , and base condition 28 , 29 His Historical untruth of its first birth 30 Li●●us latter slanderous Charge against Mr. G. of covetousness Page 30 Seed of all sin in all , but some more eminent then other 31 , 32 This of covetousness Mr. G. most disclaims 32 Freqent shifting of charges deemed a note of Avarice or Ambition 32 , 33 Mr. Gs. setled Ministerie in two Places onely , for two and fifty yeer 33 His entrance into his place at Lincolns-Inne 33 , 34 His entertainment and ten yeers continuance there 34 , 35 His Salarie , what it was there 35 Places elswhere refused , during his abode there 36 , 38 Ingenuous dispositions what they deem of the good they do 38 , 39 Their joy , when their kindness takes ; grief , when it misseth 39 40 Mr. Gs. waving the Degree of Doctor 41 , 42. The general disposition of Mr. Gs. Auditorie at Lincolns-Inne , not affecting noveltie , or varietie 43 The occasion of his removal to Rederith 44 , 46 His chargeable entrance there 47 His continuance there upward of two and forty yeer 47 His means what for the first ten yeer 47 48 , 49 Tythe upon houses formerlie paid how came t● thee intermitted 48 , 49 How it , or somewhat in lieu of it , recovered 49 , 50 The whole sum , with the Addition then agreed on , far short of what Lilie saith he receivs 50 As much expended one yeer with another , as the revenue of the place amounted unto 50 , 51 Means of enlargment elswhere offered , and refused 51 , 52 His natural disposition of what frame and temper 52 , 53 Ambition and Avarice how far they prevail where they rule 53 , 54. Everie one his own first and chiefest Flatterer 53 The result of the premises concerning Mr. G. charged with either of these two Corruptions 54 , 55 Avarice deemed the peculiar vice of old age 55 , 56 Why compared to a root 55 Why it , and pride to the spleen ibid. Why against reason for men to grow in old age more covetous 56 Of M. Gs. wilful silencing himself charged upon him by Lilie , ib. His artendance at the Assemblie , and receipts there , p. 56 , 57 His sicknes that took him off from that attendance , and for some time from his pastoral employment p. 57 The occasion of his necessarie surceasing to preach p. 58 His receipt of 200 l. a year a notorious untruth , and what his receipts are p. 58-60 The reason of his retaining a Title , with his desire to be rid of it , p. 60 , 61 The sum of Lilies slanderous assertions andaspersions ; with a resolve of future silence p. 61 Lilies malicious and murtherous mind and motion , to have the whole Presbyterie and Ministerie removed by a general massacre . p. 62 , 63 In the Advertisement . TWo Allegations in Lilies Postscript . p. 64 The former , of one Cleavland , wherein the late Assembly at Westminster is traduced . ibid. The latter , parcel of a Latine Epistle , which Mr. G. must English . ibid. The A●tor of it , sometime a Popish Priest ibid. By his own kind●ed suspected to be Popish still p. 65 By some other censured another Spalatensis ib. Retaining still divers Popish conceits and opinions p. 65. 66 His wishes concerning School-Divinity , and Mystical Divinity p. 66 , 67 His renunciation of Popery , with a transcendent commendation of it p. 67 , 68 His charging our Preachers with belying of Papists . p. 68 , 60 , 70 His excusing and extenuating of Popish corruptions p. 69 His Confession of his Faith , no other then what he saith any knowing Papist will acknowledge p. 70 His Sermon no Sermon &c. what a Riddle p. 70 His traducing our English Version of the Bible , and bespattering the persons imployed in it p. 70 , 71 His reqirie of repair to some persons infalliblie guided , for everie reading and sense of each word in Scripture , for sure ground of Faith p 71 , 72 How this puls to Rome p. 72 How i● p●shes to Atheism p , 73 He makes Gods Oracles meer Riddles and Intricacies , that may be turned anie way p. 74 He charges the Independents with doing the like p. 75 In his English he hath the same in effect , which he professes to deliver , for fear of troubling weak ones , in Latine p. 75 He invites an Answerer , tyes him to Latin , promises to replie so onelie , but fails p. 75 , 76 He puts off his Answer with sqibs , and scoffs , and impertinencies p 77 He is for satisfaction of his difficultie sent home to himself , and some other p. 78 No good proof that not joyned to Rome , because he preaches as a Minister here p. 78 , 79 His character impouring him to exercise and cure strange diseases p. 80 His scruple about his Marriage ibid. Tho no professed Jesuit , not free from Jesuiticall tricks p. 81 Writes himself Independent , and his reason why p. 81 , 82 Yet maintains Dependencie , and reqires Episcopacie to the being of a Church p. 81 How partial herein for Rome p. 81 , 82 Acknowledges Lilies practise and profession condemned in ancient Councels p. 82 Lilie and he wherein alike p. 82 , 83 , 91 , 92 , 93 Hatred of anie thing rises from the love of some other thing : Mans hatred of God from self-love p. 83 The ground of Mr. Cs. hatred of Presbyterie ibid. Manie preferred out of disaffection to some others p. 84 So Mr. Carp. Schismatical and Heterodox Separatists , before Presbyterians and Calvinists ibid. His collation of Presbyterians and Independents p. 84 , 85 His gross abuses of Scripture p 85 His manifold scurrillous termes given to the Presbyterians , ●ainous charges , and abandoning of them p. 85 , 86 His Lucian-like dream of a dance in a Mask with the P●e-dish p. 86 His absurd deduction of Kirk from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a tail p. 86 , 87 B. Kings censure of Henoch Clapham p. 87 Mr , Carp. bringing the Pulpit upon the Stage , and the Stage into the Pulpit p. 87 , 88 , 89 His traducing the Presbyterians and Genevians , and defring them as Jesuits p. 90 His charitable affection professed to the Anabaptists p. 90 Malicious and murthero●s mind to the Presbyterian partie p. 90 Priest lie character how poor a curb to crueltie p 90 , 91 His solemn abrenunciations of our Presbyters and Preachers p. 92 , 93 His Latine peec●s in Lili● , at his reqest Englished p. 93 An humble Address to the Higher Powers p. 94 , 95 In the Postscript . J. Gadburies Epistle to Mr. T. G. p. 96 His charge of him with scurrillous language p. 96 , 97 With pretending to teach Hebrew , having little skil in it p. 97 , 99 Mr. Gs. access to Mr. Aylof● house p. 97 , 98 His imployment there p. 98 M. Aylofs Wife , what manner of woman , and how affected p. 98 99 Her dailie retirement how managed p. 98 In all Arts and Sciences the more men know , the more they know their want of knowledge p. 99 100 Gadburies pretence of a contradiction in Mr. Gs. words p. 100 His hellish misconstruction of them p. 100 , 101 His scurrillous terms and aspersions of the Ministerie ibid. Mr. Gs. entrance into the Ministerie p. 101 , 102 Why Lilie and Gadburie may j●stlie be termed Sycophants and Helhounds p. 102 , 103 Mr. Gs. resolution to meddle no further with them p. 103 How little , or nothing rather , of truth , they have been able to discover against Mr. G. in his life the one , in his writings the other p. 103 , 104 His idle Qerie answered here and elswhere p. 104 A Discourse Apologetical , concerning some notorious Falshoods in LILIES Merline for the year 1654. NO sooner did Lilies Pasqil ( for no other then such are his Anniversary Merlins ) for the year 54. come flying abroad , but being informed , that therein after his wonted guise he had again fallen foul upon me , I was desirous to have a sight of it , that I might see what he had said in his own defence , concerning those things that I had charged upon him , both in mine Annotations , and in my Vindication thereof , and what he had returned to my fresh charge , or pursuit in the latter , of my first charge in the former . But when it came to my hands upon perusal of it , I soon perceived , that I had proved a tru Prognostes , and much truer then Lilie ; albeit I had not at all consulted with the Stars , as he professeth and pretendeth to do ; nor indeed was there any need at all that I should . For in the first place I found that to be tru , which I had foretold , that Lily would , if my Vindiciae ever came to his hands , put off all in the same manner , as he had all other before , whom he was pleased to take notice of , that had written ought against himselfe , or his Trade , with a few scurrilous Jeers ; and just so he doth here ; to wit , in these termes , An impudent Pamphlet writ against me by that old silenced or dumb Minister , containing twenty six sheets of scolding . Nor found I that also to have falne out otherwise then as I had presaged , ( according to the advice that I had given him as a friend , and foresaw that he would be so wise as to follow ) to wit , that he would wholly let slip , and bury in silence , whatsoever had been formerly with so much confidence averred by him , concerning the pretended grounds of his Art and Trade ; how the good Angels ( such as he consults with ) were the first Teachers of it , and that by them it was revealed to holy men . ( such no doubt as himself and his Associates now are ) which tho both in the Annotation , and Vindication being instantly urged , and eagerly pressed upon , his credit lying at the stake , out of some authentik Record , one or other to make good , unless he would be reputed ( as otherwise he justly deserves , and by his silence may deservedly be deemed to acknowledge ) to be a coyner and broacher of fictions and fables , to gain credit thereby to his cheating Trade , and to gull poor people with , by telling them such fond tales , and frivolous stories , as himself well knows , and his own Conscience ( if he have any at least , ) told him , that he had no proof at all for : Yet throughout the whole heap here of his frivolous Calculations , fabulous Relations , ridiculous Predictions , forged and coyned , like the Sabine , or Jewish Dreamers , dreams , to comply with the current , and fit the fancies of those whom he would cury favor with , and scurrilous girds at those whom he desires to disgrace or deems to be out of grace with some great ones , he hath not one word , wise or other , concerning this matter , that so nearly concerned him ; much less ought to confirm that his , as groundless , so still deserted , and least guardless , assertion , upon which he made choyse before to bottom the tottering Fabrick of his whole Trade . After a survey therefore taken of it , I was at a stand with my self , in doubt whether I should assay to deal at all further with so shameless a creature , who knew not how to reason , but to rail onely . The rather having been told by divers of my friends , that I had already stooped too low , and graced him too much , by entring into the Lists with so base a fellow , unfit for any man of gravity or ingenuity to deal with : And that they could not therefore without indignation , read my name in the Frontispice of my book , as having ought to do with Lilie . And indeed as one in the Greek Comick saith , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , Dura nimis est ingenuae cum meretrice contestatio . It is a verie hard task for an honest woman to be driven to contest with a common strumpet : And the reason of it , is wel rendred by that Noble Roman Censor , when he told a lewd fellow that railed on him , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . There is an unequal encounter between thee and me ; thou hast herein the odds of me ; for it is a rife matter with thee to hear ill language from others , and as ready a matter to return the like again ; whereas with me it is both unpleasant to do it , and unwonted to hear it . In like manner , may I wel say , doth the case stand here between Lilie and my self . I shal herein willinglie yeeld him the bucklers ; I list not to contend with him in scurrilitie and bad language ; herein , I confess , he hath the better of me . But as he said sometime of a Dicer , Aleator qanto in arte melior , tanto pejor est ; the better Dicer , the wors man : So he that is the best at railing , is the worst in disposition ; and as bad and foul language is a practise verie rife with him , so it seems that no less frequentlie he meets with his mates , and it may be sometime with his matches , being repaid in coyn of the same stamp with his own , having the like language returned him from others . For he makes grievous complaint elswhere of scurrilous Mercuries , that vie it with his scurrilous Merlins , and overload them with their multitudes , and that may seem to have befaln him , that Seneca saith of Vatinius , Convitiis assiduis depudere didicerat . That by frequency of hearing bad language , tho not undeservedlie , from others , he is grown to that height of impudencie , that he hath stript himself of all shame , laid aside all ingenuitie , and abandoned himself to the baiting of everie one that comes in his way ; laying at them with broad language , and the worst of words , without all regard whether they deserv wel or ill , or whether that wherewith he bespatters them , be tru or fals . In this manner of contestation and debate therefore Lilie and I ar not even matches . Neither hav I been accustomed to entertain others with foul language ; neither hav I , I thank God , been much encountred with it my self ; not so much , at least , as manie others , by much better then my self . In this regard therefore to go forth into the field , and enter the lists on such 〈…〉 ns , wherein the encounter is so uneqal , and yet better be beaten then beat ; I concluded that it was best to lay down the cudgels , or to let them lie rather , and leav Lilie to rant and rail at his pleasure . And indeed for his scurrilous girds , broad terms , and bad language , I was wel content ; and rest stil resolved , so to do . Let him rank and recken me by name in the list of the mute , dumb , and old doting Priests , which the late Comet saith , must be routed , or rooted out . And yet by the way , as one sometime demanded of one of his complices , How it came to pass , that they , who take upon them by the Stars , to tel everie draggle-tail'd Girl that comes to them to enquire after a Silver Spoon lost , what was become of it , and which way it was gone ; yet could not by their star-skil foresee and foretel the Scotch Kings defeat at Worcester , his escape by flight , and which way he was fled : So would I fain know of this great Star-master , how it comes to pass , that he who by this Comet can foretel us of such great matters to be effected by it , could not by the Stars foresee and foretel us of the coming of the Comet , and how long it should last , being a matter of so great importance . But let this go for a Parenthesis , return we to our task . Let him tel me , That I prov all I write on Jer. 10. 2. by Strabo , Plinie , Lucian , and Cicero , &c. els I might go sleep . Bid me go write another Commentarie on that Text , and prov mine Annotations Canonical by Strabo and Cicero , two pure Heathen Autors . Let him tel me , that in my late Vindication with much scurrilitie I qote Lucian 〈◊〉 Scoffer , Papias and Balbus , two Logger-headed Grammarians and Heathens against Astrology , and so play the fool in producing the judgment of men disaffected to the point in qestion . Let him stile me a covetous wretch , whose slanderous Pen would make the world believ , that Jacob Behmen was a Dutch Wizard ; whereas his divine works give a beginning to new discoveries of knowledge ; ( to wit , telling us , what God did before the world began ; of an endless number of transactions before this world was created , and of two co-infinite and co-eternal ones , God and the Abyss ; of which elswhere more at large . ) But this Wizard is no Wizard , forsooth , but a tru Prophet , and his writings Divine works or Oracles . For he foretold long since , that a Lilie should blossom to us in these Northern Countries , and should grow to a great flourishing tree among us , if we do not destroy it with the Sectarian contentions of our learned men , while we contend , and dispute , and wrangle with it . Thus Lilie of him , out of him . And can anie wiseman , think we , doubt , whom this Prophecie concerns ? who no marvel then , if he cannot endure , to hear J. B. termed a Wizard , anie more then himself . But these ar all but pettie sprinklings , and slight dashes of his he sparrows qil . Let him tel me , breaking out into broader terms , and far larger letters , making use of his great Turkies Text Pen ; That I am an old , covetous , stiff-necked Churl , who having given over preaching , now like a childe teach , or am taught a new mode of spelling to my Proselytes , and cant the art of lying and scolding to the Wives of Billingsgate , being my self unmarried . Yea , to these let him add as manie more reproachful epithits as he wil , and load me with as manie more contumelious terms as he pleases ; all this wind shal shake no corn at all with me : As Symmachus sometimes , ( if my memorie fail me not , ) Nullius neqitiatanti est , ut ●●t● me o digna sit . None of all his scurrilitie , at the most , and the highest , shal mov me one jot . I shall but smile at the mans simplicitie , and laugh at his follie , if he be so sillie , as to suppose anie that read him so senseless , that they can by him be induced to believ the things to be tru and real , that here he writes of me . So that herein he doth but ( as Jude speaks ) foam out his own filth , and ( as Solomon of the foolish ) proclaim his own folly . For mine own part , I account them but as words of cours with Mr. Lilie , and as Bio said in the like case , am no more affected with them , then as if he bid me , Good morrow . No● would I blot paper with such base unsavory stuff , save onelie to let those see , who it may be have not light on his Book , or looked into it , what sweet flowers of his usual rhetorick they ar like to find it fraught with ; and that such as otherwise do not so wel know him , may judg of the man by the manner of his writing . To call a man Theif , or a woman Whore , I have heard some say , wil bear no action at Law ; but to say , You are a theif , and stole such a matter from such an one ; or , You are a whore , and were taken in bed with such a man , wil. And the reason hereof seems , because those general and indefinite terms ar deemed stomackful words onelie , whereas in the other there is a charge with particular matter of fact . Had this Railer therefore kept himself within this compass , and contented him with such general , base , and foul terms , I should never have troubled either my self with writing , or anie other with reading these lines . For as for those particulars , that he snaps at , concerning some Autors that I qote , how sorry , poor , idle , frothie , frivolous , yea , and fals , his exceptions and allegations ar , wil soon appear unto anie , that shal be pleased to take so much pains , as to consult the Annotations and Vindication of them that ar everie where together abroad . For example , All I write on Jer. 10. 2. he saith , I prov by Strabo , Lucian , Plinie , and Cicero ; whereas of Lucian I have not anie one word there ; the other three I cite joyntlie , onelie to shew , That Astrologers were ancientlie termed Chaldeans ; and Plinie apart , to shew , What antiqitie of observation the Heathen Diviners pretended for their superstitious divinations by the flight of fouls , and from the bowels of beasts ; That in my Vindication I qote Lucian , a Scoffer : But to what purpose ? To prov ought in controversie by him ? No. But to shew , That an Impostor in his times used the like shifts that Lilie now doth , tho in some kind more wiselie , and warilie then he . But I qote also there , two Logger-headed Grammarians and Heathens . If his meaning be in sensu composito , that those two Grammarians were Heathens , it is fals ; they were both Christians , tho they lived in an obscure and corrupt age . But what do I cite them for ? To shew , that they were sounder , coneurring therein with the learned of other , and better ages , in the notation of some words , and distinction of some terms , then some of Lilies Patrons , and Advocates ; and the more shame then for them , professing much learning , and charging others with ignorance , to come short in such pettie matters of such Logger-headed Grammarians , as their Client saith they were . Or , if he mean in sensu diviso , that I qote other Autors , that ar pure Heathens ( as elswhere he saith of Strabo and Cicero ) against Astrologie . I might demand of him , Whether Strabo and Cicero ar more pure Heathen , or anie that I qote against Astrologie , then Thales and Solon , whom his Advocate qotes for it ; or whether Hermes , Proclus , Plotinus , Ptolomie , Albumazar , Hali Rodoan , Baranzanus , &c. be anie better then such , whom he qotes for his practise , and on whose autoritie , next to his good Angels , of whom by his silence , he now seems ashamed , he principallie rests and relies . I qote Heathen Autors indeed ; but to what purpose ? To shew , that the wiser sort even among the Heathen discovered the vanitie and follie of this pretended skil : As Clemens , Augustine , and others of the Ancients , produce the like , to shew , that the wiser sort of them disavowed the multiplicitie of their counterfeit Deities . Yea , but I play the fool in producing the judgment of men disaffected to the point in qestion . Not , I hope , when I produce them to prov , that they ar not all such sillie Ignoramusses , as Lilie and his Advocate would bear the world in hand , that tax his trade , and that it is not out of meer ignorance that they disallow and condemn it ; unless he can prov , that they ar all also such Logger-heads , as he saith those two were . But in all these particulars thus specified , and here carped at , there is nothing of much moment , nor ought that contains in it anie matter of scandal . One or two other things there are , wherewith albeit they no way at all concern , either my Charge against him , or his Defence of his own Cause , wherein he is as mute as a fish ; yet he strives what he can , to asperse my good name , endeavoring to fasten some particulars upon me , that may tend unto scandal ; which I suppose therefore , it may concern me to take notice of , and to clear my self from his fals imputations : that which divers of my Friends also have incited me to do . One of the wisest of meer men , that ever was since the fall , telleth us , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 That a good name is a matter of more worth , then a pretious ointment ; ( which were said to be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , very highly prized in those parts ) and more to be esteemed of then riches and much treasure . And a Heathen man therefore saith , Famae & fidei damna majora sunt qod q● aestimari possunt ; That the wrongs a man receives in his good name and credit , ar greater damages then can be valued . We have a common saying among us , That for a man to have a bad name , it is as good , or bad rather , as to be half hanged . But the Greek Orator goes further then so , and saith , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , That it were not a greater penalty for a man to be stoned to death or burnt qick , then justlie and deservedlie , to live in disgrace : And the Greek Father , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , That death it self is more tolerable then disgrace : Yea , the Apostle Paul himself professeth to be of the 〈◊〉 ▪ 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , that it were better for him to die , that anie man should take his life , rather then his glorying away from him . And he admonisheth all Christian men to be very charie in this kind , folowing 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , such things as ar of good report ; providing 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not good onelie , but goodlie , as the word properlie signifies ; honest things , as we render it , not in the sight of God onelie , but in the sight of men also ; Caventes & nobis à peccato , & ill is à scandalo , as Bernard speaks ; being careful to shun , as the offending of God by anie cariage ▪ simplie evil , so of giving occasion of offence to man , by anie cours that may prov scandalous , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , saith Clemens of Alexandria , That they may not onelie be faithful in regard of God , but of credit also in regard of men . Hence it is , that Julian saith , No● is necessaria est vita nostra , aliis fama nostra ; that Our good life is needful for our selvs , our good name for others , as wel as our selvs : And Austine , Opus est bona famâ apud homines , bona conscientiâ apud Deum . Need have we as wel of a good report with men , as of a good conscience towards God. According to that of the Apostle concerning himself , that it was his constant endeavor and exercise to keep 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a conscience free from offence ; that is , from giving occasion thereof unto either , both towards God and men ; and therefore , Qi conscientiae fidens famam negligit , crudelis est . For a man , saith he , relying upon his conscience , to be retchless and regardless of his good name , it is a kind of crueltie both to others , and to himself . In which consideration , that renowned Roman Emperor Mark Antonine , albeit with the Stoick's he reckoned , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , fame and report , good or bad , in rebus mediis ; among those things that were neither simply good , nor evil of themselvs ; and doth therefore admonish men to rest principallie ( as the Apostle also professeth that he did ) on the inward testimonie of their own conscience ; contenting themselves with that , where the other cannot be had ; yea , adviseth them to be content to sustain reproach and infamie for the keeping of a good conscience , and to be willing to part with the one for the retaining of the other ; doing that that they know to be their dutie , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , tho it may be deemed infamous , or 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , tho they shall be defamed for the doing of it , as Pythagoras before him . That which not our Apostle onelie resolvs with himself , to steer his cours according to his card and compass , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , passing as wel , and as willinglie , through good report , and evil report ; tho by some repu●ed 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , as an imposter , and a counterfeit , when he was in truth nothing less : But Seneca also , Ad honestum consilium per mediam infamiam tendam : I wil break , saith he , through the midst of infamie to the accomplishment of an honest act ; adding withal , That no man in his judgment sets an higher rate on virtu and wel doing , then he , Qi boni viri famam perdidit , ne conscientiam perd●ret ; Who hazards the loss of being reputed a good man , that he might not loose the realitie , and conscientiousness of it . And elswhere inciting his friend to the like resolution , he tells him . Saepe justus esse debebis cum infamiâ ; & tunc , si sapis , mala opinio sic parta delectabit : That if he wil do as he should do , he must oft-times do that which is just and upright , tho he shal be ill thought of ▪ or ill spoken of for it ; ( that which Antisthenes , as some , Alexander , as others , used to say , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , that it was the lot of Kings to hear ill , when they did well ; ) and that , if he were so wise as he should be , an evil report , or evil repute so gotten , should be so far from daunting or disturbing him , that it ought rather to delight him ; as it is said of those two Apostles , Peter and John , after they had been baited and beaten in the consistory , they went away , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , rejoycing , that they had been graced so much as to be disgraced for Christ ; and of Moses , that he reckoned , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the sustaining of reproach for Christ , a greater honor then all the treasures or royalties of Egypt could afford . Yet notwithstanding all this , of that worthy Emperor doth Julius Capitolinus , report , That he was famae suae curiosissimus , exceeding chary and regardful of his good name ; in so much , That malè loqentium dict is vel literis , vel Sermone respondebat ; he was careful to return answer , either by word of mouth , or in writing , unto the sayings of such as had raised evil reports of him . Among other things , he saith , Nihil aliud magis timuit & deprecatus est qam avaritiae famam ; do qâ se multis epistolis purgat . He was solicitous to devolv and depel from himself nothing more then the note of avarice ; ( cast upon him by some , it seems , as on Pius before him , for his frugalitie , and moderating of publick expences , that he might nor be over-burdensom to the subject ) whereof he labored to purge himself in divers of his Epistles . So careful ar good men , and have ever been , both to gain , and to retain a good report ; and the Apostle reqires it , as a matter of much concernment in a Minister of the Gospel , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , That he have a good report , even from those that ar without ; that he may be the fitter and better able to do good , as wel on those without , by converting and bringing them in , as on those within , by confirming and building them up , having a good repute with , and being wel thought of by either : To which purpose he adds , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , That he may not fall under reproach , and into the snare of the calumniater or slanderer ; as the same term would be also rendred in the same Chapter in those words , Not a novice , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , lest being puffed up , he fal under the censure of the calumniater ; as also in those words elswhere , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , nor give place to the calumniater , back-biter , or talebearer : Such as ar wont by fals reports , as with fewel , to foment and seed the fire of anger and ill wil , where they find it alreadie kindled ; as also ar persons so affected no less prone , lying in wait to that purpose , to take occasion by anie flying , tho never so fals report to traduce Gods Ministers , and blast their credit , all they can . And as all Christian people therefore , so Christian Ministers much more , ought to be verie charie and tender of their reputation : As the Apostle Paul apparentlie sheweth himself to have been , when he takes so much pains , and spends so manie almost whole Chapters , in the Vindication of it , against those fals brethren , and counterfeit Apostles , who had at Corinth endeavored to wrong him therein . And I suppose some necessitie lies upon me at present also to do . For howsoever Lilies words ar , as we use to say , no slander ; he is so wel known to be a most notorious lier , and one that regards not what he saith ; and it is a received rule in the Civil Law , Mendax semel , mendax semper praesumitur . He that hath been once taken in a lie , and much more , one that hath been oft taken ( as he hath been ) in fals tales not a few , is never after to be credited . And again , A bad mans reproach is no dispraise . The commendation of such , is sometime rather deemed a kind of dispraise , making the partie whom such commend , suspected to be like those by whom he is commended . And Seneca therefore , Non est infamia infamari ab infamibus . It is no infamie for a man to be defamed , by those that are infamous themselves ; And therefore , saith he , as it is meer fondness for a man , Laetari , qod ab eis laudatur , qos non po●est ipse laudare , to rejoyce when he is commended of those , ●hom himself cannot commend . So is it meer madness for a man , Vereri ne ab infamibus infametur , to fear being traduced and defamed , by those that are infamous themselvs , and he wel knows to be such . Yet because , as Medius , one of Great Alexanders base Parasites , and among his Sycophants , a cheif Master , is reported to have delivered this lesson to his Schollers , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 That they should boldlie and confidentlie , touch or twich , and snap or bite men with calumnies or slanders , not regarding how untru , how unlikelie they were ; for , said he , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ; that is , as Seneca renders it , Cum vul 〈…〉 sanatum est , manebit cicatrix . Tho the partie bitten , lick the wound never so whole again , yet some scar wil remain upon the place that was hurt . And the Poet therefore , when he had said , Conscia mens recti vulgi mendacia ridet . A good conscience sets light by , and laughs at folks lying reports . Subjoyns yet withal , Sed nos in vitium ( and so , in vituperium ) credula turba sumus . People ar commonlie over-credulous , too prone to entertain evil reports , and to conceiv evil surmises ; too manie men ar naturallie of a suspitious disposition ; and as the Mimik hath it , Seqiorem in partem strenua est suspicio . Suspition is wont to warp and bend more stronglie to the worst side . Whence that saying so freqent in most mens mouths , There is seldom anie smoak , but where there is some fire ; and yet in truth , there is smoak oft , yea , and much smoak , such as the by word relateth to , even a great smother of foggie fumes , raised by slanderous tongues , where no smal spark of fire , or ember of truth at all is to be found . The premises seriously considered , and all things wel weighed , after much debate to and fro within my self , at length I resolved to follow the precedent of that thrice noble and renowned Emperor ; the more noble and renowned and worthie of imitation , because so Philosophical , and tho no Christian , yet Christian-like in moralities , as wel for practise as precept ; and by some few lines at least , to cleer my self from those soul , but fals aspersions , wherewith this Sycophants calumniating pen hath endeavored to stain my good name ; the rather , for that my courses and carriages , having lived in an obscure corner , may in that regard be less known abroad ; and my former works and writings , whereby some things objected here ar to be cleered , being now either wholie out of print , or not easilie procured , may not be obvious or read●e at hand for others , to make use of in the trial of the present debate . The slanderous charges then of this Sycophant are principallie two . The former of them is thus delivered by him . Mr. Gataker formerlie a stiff Prelate , preaching impudentlie for the Liberties or Sports of the Sabbath , viz. Cards , Dice , &c. Afterward in hope of Bishops , Deans , or Chapter-Lands , a pretended Presbyterian ; since its decay , the poor m●n is mute , &c. For what followeth wil be best fitted to his after-charge . Principiis omen inesse solet . Beginnings ar deemed ominous . Ad limen offendere , or , In portu impingere . For a man to trip at the threshold , when he is going abroad , and a ship to strike on the bar , or run on ground , when it is setting out to sea , have been by old said Saws , pronounced to be but bad signs , and to bode little good . This charge therefore appeering with an apparent lie in the foretop , gives no good presage of that , that ensueth : For when or where was Mr. G. ever a Prelate , can Lilie tell , think we ? or any man els ? and how could he be a stiff Prelate , that never was anie ? This is therefore a manifest , and conspicuous falshood to begin with ; and as the Greek Tragoedian sometime said . 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . That which goeth for a ruled Case in the Civil Law , Malum principium malus finis seqitur . A bad beginning is wont to bring forth a bad end . And the like is entred as an Axiome in the bodie of the Canon Law , Principio q 〈…〉 sunt inchoata malo , vix est ut bono peragantur exitu . Those things that are ill begun scarce ever end wel . According to that , Rarus principii est exitus bonus mali . A bad beginning seldom comes to a good end . Where yet the Gloss upon the place goes further then the Text , and saith , Vix . i. Nunqam . Scarce ever , that is , Never . And the great Philosopher to the same purpose sticks not to say , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . It is impossible ; but that that which is faultie at the first , should prove il at the last . And that ancient Father , and stout Champion of Christ , Athanasius , seconding Aristotle herein , yea , going further yet then he , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . That that hath a bad beginning , can never be deemed sound in ought , as being all stark naught . And Seneca therefore , from Bio an ancient Greek of great note , thus determines the point , Let everie man set it down for a position , and know it to be an undoubted truth , which Bio sometime said , Omnia hominum negotia similia init iis esse ; That all mens affairs wil prove good or bad , according as their beginnings are . And yet more expreslie and particularlie to our present purpose , I sidore the Egyptian , one of Chrysostoms cheif Scholars , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . He that in the beginning swarveth from the truth , wil in his proceedings roll further away from it , and end at last with some foul and shameful catastrophe or other . Lilie therefore beginning his charge thus with a notorious lie , foretelleth those that read him by what they find in the front or forehead of it , how little truth they may look for in the residu of his ensuing relation , and that as it begins , so the progress of it shal be , and the close answerable to either . But Mr. G. saith he , formerly a stiff Prelate . I might demand of him , if Mr. G. were ever a Prelate , stiff or slack , how or when was he deposed , or by what means came he to be beref● of his Prelacy ? for now sure , it is wel known , he is none : But to let that pass . When he was such an one , what then did he ? Why , When he was such a Prelate , he then impudentlie preached for the libertie . of Sabbath sports . Verie tru indeed , if you take it in sensu composito , it is a most certain and undeniable truth ; when he was the one , he did the other . But take it in sensu diviso , as he intends here and doth , that I was once a Prelate , and that I did sometime so preach ; and the one is as tru as the other , either of them a most shameful , or shameless lie rather , both as fals as God is tru But , as he sometime said , Qi semel verecundia fines transierit , eum ben● & gnaviter impudentem esse oportet . When a man hath once gone beyond the bounds of truth and modestie , it stands him upon then to break further out , to grow impudent to the purpose , and to lie beyond measure . For what proof can he produce of Mr. G. so preaching , or who ever heard him preach for Libertie of Sports on the Lords day ? or , for Libertie to profane the Lords day , in one kind or other ? Nor let anie take exception , as some have done , that I style it the Lords day , rather then the Sabbath . I remember a Speech of Dr. Oldisworth , my worthie Friend , living then in mine Honorable Patron the Lord Hobarts house , ( as eager an urger of the strict observance of that day as the most ) upon occasion of discours of some debate then about it . The day , said he , hath three Names in common use given it , the Sunday , the Sabbath day , the Lords day . The first an Heathenish name , the second a Jewish , the third a Christian ; and why should not , said ●e , this last be preferred before either of the former . And the first indeed is a name that came at first from the Heathen , yet is it found used by Justine Martyr in his Apologie to the Roman Emperor , in behalf of the Christians , mentioning it as the day of their meeting ; no● dare I utterlie condemn the use of it : The Sunday for the name of a day , the first day of the week , as it is termed Acts 20. 7. anie more then Bethshemesh ( tho from an idolatrous or superstitious at least , original ) the Suns house or place , for the name of a Citie , 1 Sam. 6. 12 , 13. The second may be termed Jewish , because a term peculiar to them in times past , but common to us now with them , tho differing in the day , and supposed by some to be by the Evangelist , Matth , 24. 20. used of our day ; which tho it seem not so probable , yet may qestionless not unfitlie be used of it , seeing it is , and ought to be a day of holie rest unto us , as was their Sabbath then to them , Isa . 58. 13. The third and last , is the name peculiar to Christians , not common either to Heathen or Jews with them ; that which the Lords beloved Disciple gives it , the Lords Day , Revel . 1. 10. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , the Lords day , fanctified and set apart for the Lords service , as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , the Lords Table , 1 Cor. 10. 21. and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , the Lords Supper , consecrated and set apart for the memorial of Christ , and by his Institution ; which to me therefore , seems the fittest term for it . But cal the day by which , or whether term of them you please , I have , wheresoever I exercised my Ministerie , as occasion was offered , been a constant pleader for , and ins●ant presser of the du observation of the day ; as that which I ever esteemed to be a main pillar and support of the practise , yea , a principal means both of the maintenance and advancement of the power of Pietie , among Gods people . It is a Rule prescribed by some of the great Masters of Physick , Medicus m●rbos observet epidemios , That a Physitian shoul ▪ observ what diseases ar rifest in the t●mes or places he lives in , and applie his studies and courses princ pallie to the cure of them . And according to that direction , appliable to our Function , considering the freqencie of abuses among people in mispending a great part of that day in most places where I came , I did the rather usuallie bend my self in my teaching , to disswade and deter those that I spake to , from those abusive courses , whereby I perceived the day , or any part of it , to be commonlie profaned by them . To this purpose , before I came to Lincolns Inn , while I lodged in the House of that Religious Knight , my worthy Friend and Kinsman , Sir William Cook , neer to Charing-Cross , being reqested to Preach now and then at Martins in the Fields , and having taken notice how the Gentrie , manie of them thereabout spent much of the Lords day in Complemental Visitations , I took occasion one day , out of Isa . 58. 13. to handle the Doctrine of the Sabbath or Lords day ; and among other things endeavored to shew , That it was not to be spent in such Civil Complements , but in Religious Imployments . And this I remember the rather by a good token , which it wil not be amiss to relate . It fel out the Lords day , next ensuing , , that an ancient Gentlewoman , one of that Congregation , being returned home from the Afternoon Exercise , while she sat in an upper Room , ripping off some Lace from an old Garment , which she intended to make use of otherwise , heard a Coach to make stay on the other side of the street , and looking out at the Window to see whose it was , when she espied a Ladie her Neece , whom it staid for , entring it , to go abroad in it for such purpose . Oh , qoth she , to her waiting Maid , then attending upon her , did not my Neece N. hear Mr. G. the last Lords day , and is she now going out to visit again . Whereupon one of that Familie afterward occasionallie meeting me , thus merrilie saluted me , Sir , when you Preach next of the Sabbath , be pleased to tel our Gentlewomen , that they must not ●it ripping Gold-lace off their old Peticoats upon the Lords day ; and withal told me the storie . But for which , I should not in likelihood have called to mind again that Sermon being preached so long since . At my coming to Lincolns Inn , there was on the Lords day one Lecture onelie at seven in the morning , nor had there been anie other before . There being setled some space of time , when I observed that divers of the great practisers spent a great , if not the greatest part of the day , the Afternoon especiallie , in entertaining of their Clients , I took occasion in my teaching , to step a little aside out of the road I was then in , to speak somewhat of that subject , endeavoring to shew them , That it was as lawful for the Husbandman to hedg and ditch , or to folow his Tillage on that day , as for the Lawyer to employ it in consulting with , and attending his Clients . And I pressed the point so far , that through the good hand of God , going along with it , and carrying home his own Ordinance to the hearts of the hearers ; it made so deep an impression upon them , that upon a motion made by some of the cheif ones at the next meeting after it , a consultation was had , what cours might be taken for the future prevention of so common and irregular a practise : And after advice therein taken with me , it was by common consent , agreed on , That the Morning Lecture on the Lords day , should be drawn down to the usual hour in other places , and the Wednesday Lecture transferred to the Afternoon of the Lords day . Which , howsoever it were a matter of much more labor to my self to speak twice in one day ( which , as I am informed , in the French and Dutch Congregations is seldom or never done ; and some of my Successors have complained of , and blamed me , for giving way thereunto ) and by means thereof I was abbridged of that libertie of hearing others abroad , which I had formerlie enjoyed ; yet for the atcheiving of my main ay● herein , of gaining a more du and diligent observance of the day , I right willinglie dispensed with mine own ease and advantages , and condescended thereunto . And this was the ground of the alteration of the Lectures in that House ; which , I suppose , in that manner , in which , upon this occasion they were then setled , continu stil to this day . During mine abode at Lincolns Inn , the time approaching for my taking the degree of Batchelor in Divinitie , I procured a cours at St. Maries in Cambridge , for mine English Sermon ; the first and last that I ever preached there , having never had the boldness before to appear in that place . This fel out to be the verie next day after Qeen Elizabeths decease ; which being not known yet at Cambridge , the Qeen , as stil surviving , was at the Forenoon Sermon solemnlie prayed for by him that preached that day at Kings Colledge : But about Noon the report came down of the Qeen departed this life , and King James proclaimed , which caused an exceeding great concours of people at the Afternoon Sermon , though it were no Lords day : When by advice of the Vice-Chancelor , in regard that no publick notice of it was as yet sent down , I conceived my Petition for the King , in a kind of circumlocution , For the present Supream Governor , without expression of his name : At that branch of my Prayer , the tears trickling down my Cheeks , and scarce any one drie eie in the whole Assemblie , as I was afterward informed . This Sermon then had on 1 Tim. 6. 6. at the reqest of some Friends , who had seen some Copies of it , was manie yeers after published under this Title , The Gain of Godliness ; wherein is extant the ensuing passage concerning the Lords day , p. 36-38 . For worldlie wealth , men can toil and moil all the week long , and yet ar they not wearie , they think not the whole week long neither ; but for the heavenlie gain , for the spiritual thrift , we have but one day of seven , and we think that to much too ; we think the day all to long , the labor all lost , and the whole time cast away , that we imploy and spend to this purpose : We say as the profane Jews sometime said , When wil●he New Moon be past , and the Sabbath once over , that we may return again to our worldlie affairs ? Yea , manie among us have not the patience to tarry so long , but spend a great part of the Sabbath , that is Gods Market , or Market-day , for the getting of this spiritual Gain , either about their worldlie affairs , or their bodilie delights . The Sabbath day , I say , is Gods Market-day ; and those that seek to take away the Sabbath , attempt to put down Gods Markets , and so do the Devil good service , whatsoever their intent be . As freqenting of Markets makes a rich man , so keeping of Sabbaths makes a rich Christian ; and as we count him a bad Husband , that foloweth game on the Market-day , so may we as wel count him a spiritual unthrift , that spends the Sabbath in that sort . But may some say , When we have been at Church , and heard the Sermon and Service , is not Gods Market-day then done ? I answer , If the Sabbath be a day , then it is not so soon done ; Gods Market lasteth all day long . Yea , grant the principal , because the publick of it be past ; yet , as Market-falks returning from Market , wil be talking of their Markets as they go by the way ; and be casting up of their penny-worths , when they come home ; reckon what they have taken , and what they have laid out , and how much they have gotten . So should we , after we have heard the Word publickly , confer privatelie of it with others , at least meditate on it by our selvs ; and be sure to take an account of our selvs , how we have profited that day , by the Word that hath been spoken unto us , and by other Religious Exercises that have been used of us . And us the Market-man counteth that but an evil Market-day , that he hath not gained somewhat on , more or less ; so may we wel account it an evil Sabbath to us , whereon we have not profited somewhat ; whereon we have not either increased our knowledge , or been bettered in affection ; whereon we have not been further either informed in judgement , or reformed in practise ; whereon we have added no whit at all to our Talent . Thus then and there . After my leaving of Lineol●s Inn , being reqested by my Right Honorable Lord , the Lord Hobart , to bestow a Sermon on them one Lords day at Serjeants Inn in Fleetstreet , before the Judges and Serjeants at Law of that House : I preached unto them on Psal . 82. 6 , 7. That which came forth in Print shortlie after , about the same time with the former , under the Title of Gods Parley with Princes . In it pag. 12-14 . these words may be seen and read ; Here let me more particularlie , as from God , and in Gods Name , entreat you , to have a special regard of observing Gods Sabbaths . You that are to see them observed by others , ought you not much more to observ them your selvs ? Your cariage is a kind of censure ; that all men fix their eyes upon ; that most men shape their courses by . If others then shal see you riding in your Circuits on the Sabbath , wil they not think within themselvs ? And why may not I ride as wel on the Sabbath to a Fair , as the Judg may to the place of Assize ? If they shal be warned to appear before you for some hearing , by themselvs , or by their Counsel upon the Sabbath , wil they not be readie to argu from the works of your calling , to the works of their own ? And why may not I as wel be about my work , as they about theirs ? And in truth ( to speak plainlie as the thing is ) why may not a Smith as wel work at the Forge , or an Husband man at the Plough , as a Judge sit to hear Civil Causes on the Sabbath ? The one hindereth the Sanctification of it , as wel as the other . And if it be alledged , That the one is ( as before was proved indeed ) more speciallie Gods work . So were the repairing of a Church , which yet the Mason or Plummer may not work about on the Sabbath ; no more then Besaleel or Aholiab might about the work of the Tabernacle ; for the furtherance whereof , God would not admit , or give way to the least violating of his Sabbath . Thus also there . Yea , but Mr. G. tho he pleaded so hard for restraint of work on the Lords day , yet he preached as earnestlie for play , and in particular , if Lilie may be believed , for Carding and Dicing upon the Lords day . For so run the words of his charge here , Preaching impudentlie for the Liberties or Sports of the Sabbath , Cards , and Dice , &c. Which parcel of his Charge being of the same stamp with the rest , is not unlike some short skirt of a beggers coat , made up of a few sory snips and shreds , unhandsomlie stitcht up and il-favoredlie patcht together ; having reference , in part to King James his Book of Libertie for Disports on Sundays and Holidays , and in part to my Treatise of the Nature and Use of Lots ; but so blended together and entermingled the one with the other , that they make a meer medley . For , as for the former , King James indeed in the year 1618. the Sixteenth of His Reign , publ shed a Declaration , wherein he gave Libertie , for some Disports that might be used on the Sabbath or the Lords day . But what ones were they , that therein he gave way to ? Cards and dice ? &c. No : There is not one word or title at all concerning them in the whole Book ; but they are expresly therein named these , Dancings men or women , May-games , Whit sun-Ales , Morrice-dances , Rush-bearings , setting up of May-poles , and other sports therewith used . These ar the Disports by name there designed , wherewith leav is given and autoritie to solemnize and celebrate the Lords day . An Act il-beseeming so prudent and understanding a Prince . And such , it may seem , as afterward himself was ashamed of , and unwilling to own : For I have heard it reported , that when a Copy of his Works gathered together , newlie printed , and richlie made up , was presented unto him , before anie of them should go abroad , having upon the opening of it , lighted upon this peice , not without expression of much indignation he tore it out with his own hands , and gave strict charge to have it done out of the whole impression , where now none of it appears . Which if it were tru , ( for I dare not confidentlie avow it , having it onelie by hear-say ) the greater and more grievous was the sin and shame of those great Prelates ; who whither to please the King and Court , or to cross , vex , curb , and ensnare the Conscientious Ministers ; not then onelie approved the practise , but long after renewed afresh the memorie of it , and pressed his Son King Charls to revive it again , and to enjoyn the publishing of it by the Ministers of the Word in their several places , upon pain of suspension ; which not a few of them sustained for the refusal thereof . Now in defence of this Declaration , and in justification of such Sports used on the Sabbath , whereas this Lier affirms , that I preached , it is a most notorious untruth ; for neither did I ever speak , write , or preach word in defence or allowance thereof , or of anie such Sports used on that day ; neither was that Declaration ever published first or last , either by my self , or anie assistant of mine : Yea , that I did in writing directlie oppose , and expresly condemn it , may appear plainlie by what was before related , tho preached indeed before that Declaration came out , yet printed at first two yeer after it , Anno 1620. and reprinted without alteration of ought , in the yeer 1637. But pass we on to the other Book here related to , my Treatise of the Nature and Use of Lots , which is girded at in the terms of Cards and Dice , shuffled in under the disguise of Sabbath Sports , there by to wind and screw in my Treatise within the verg and compass of the subject matter with allowance , admitted in that other deservedlie abhorred Book . Tru it is , I acknowledge it , and am not at all ashamed to own it , that I published sometime a large Treatise of the Nature and Use of Lots , having in the Pulpit before , more briefly delivered somewhat of that subject ; and I published it the rather , being by divers of my Reverend Brethren , unto whom I had imparted the sum of what I had delivered , encited so to do : To refel the misreports that some other , from whom , in some particulars I dissented , had raised concerning the Doctrine therein taught by me . In this Discours I make it evidentlie to appear , that a Lot in the genuine nature and ordinarie use of it , ( and with extraordinarie , without special commission and injunction , we have nothing to do ) is no sacred matter , nor divine Oracle ; and may therefore be used indifferentlie , as wel in light and ludicrous , as in more serious and weightie affairs : And that in regard hereof , Divisorie and Lusorie Lots , ar lawful and warrantable ; Consultorie and Divinatorie , unlawful and damnable : And that it is therefore as wel a superstitious conceit on the one hand , to condemn anie game in regard of a Lot used in it ; as it is on the other hand , a superstitious and irreligious practise , to make use of a Lot , for the discoverie of Gods wil and purpose , either what he would have done by us , or determineth himself to do . And in this judgment I stil rest , having , as occasion hath been , sufficientlie and fullie ( as I conceiv ) refelled and answered the Arguments and Objections of all , who have either published ought herein against me , that ever came to my hands , or by writing delt in private with me : So as that I have not received anie further Replie from anie one of them ; yea , I have so far forth convinced some of the greatest and most eminent among them , that they have been enforced to relinqish , and have refused to own , that ground , which together with the most of the other partie , they had formerlie with much confidence built on ; to wit , That in everie casualtie there is a special and immediate providence : ( Seeing the palpable absurditie thereof plainlie discovered ) but in room thereof have endeavored to introduce another new conceit , no less absurd then the former ; as may be seen in the Second Edition of that concerning Lots in English , Chap. 4. pag. 52-59 . and in mine Antithesis to Dr. Ames his Theses in Latine . Nor do I anie further justifie anie Game , Sport , or Pastime , depending either in part , or in whole upon casualtie , ( of which kind Cards and Dice indeed ar ) if they be anie way abused , or found otherwise faultie ; save onelie , that they ar not therefore evil , or to be condemned , because there is a Lot in them . Yea but , tho I did not preach for Morrice dances and May-games , yet I did impudentlie Preach for Carding and Dicing , on the Lords day . For so much do this calumniaters words import , That I preached impudentlie for Sabbath sports , as Cards and Dice , &c. So by his Et Caetera , indeed shewing himself not unwilling to have those other also understood . I need say no more here , but sit liber judex , Let my Book decide it ; that my Treatise of Lots , I mean , wherein that may be found , which I shal here thence transcribe , directlie opposite to either , Chap. 9. where I give Cautions for Game in general . Sect. 4. p. 293. & 295. Pag. 293. Recreations are to be used as soberlie , so seasonablie . Recreation is good , when it is seasonable , when it comes in his du time ; els , as it is with fish and fowl , when they come out of season , that is evil , that is good otherwise . Now then do men use Game and Recreation unseasonablie , when they should and ought to be otherwise employed , either in the works of their special Callings , or about the holy things of God , ( to wit , as it foloweth more particularlie and fullie , Pag. 295. ) when they should be tending the holie things of God , either in publick or in private . And thus , it is a sin to follow game on the Sabbath , as the Jews used to do , and do yet to this day ; and as the Popish sort ar noted ordinarilie to solemnize their Festivals . For this is not to sanctifie or consecrate the Sabbath as holie to the Lord. The Sabbath indeed is a day of rest , but of holie rest ; of rest not to worldlie recreations , but to heavenlie meditations ; of rest to religious and spiritual employments . It is sacriledge therefore to folow game on the Sabbath ; at such time as we 〈…〉 ould be plying the service and worship of God ; it is time stoln from God , that we spend so on our sports : Which it were less sin therefore for us to spend on some serious affairs , according to that which one of the Ancients wel saith , Melius est Die Sabbati arare qam saltare . Melius totâ die foderent , qam totâ die luderent . It were better for a man in such manner on the Sabbath , to plough then to play ; and to dig and delv , then to dance all day . For the lighter the occasion of sinning is , where all other things are eq●l , the greater the sin is . Where I cite also among others , in the Margin , the words of Robert Grosthed , ancientlie Bishop of Lincoln , on the Decalog , Dies t 〈…〉 à Christiano expendi debet in operibus sanctis . The whole Lords day Christian people ought to spend in holie employments . And this , as it was at first , both preached Anno 1618. and printed Anno 1619. which was not long after that Book of Libertie , or Licentiousness rather , came abroad ; so it was in the yeer 1627. reprinted in a second Edition , with Addition and Emendation of some things , but without anie Retractation , Subtraction , Qalification , or Alteration of ought in this point . And let this therefore remain , as an impudent calumnie of a shameless Sycophant , upon record , That Mr. G. Preached impudentlie for Libertie of Sabbath Sports . But this , saith he , Mr. G. did formerlie , when he was a Prelate . Of some Province , it may be in Sir Thomas Mores Vtopia ; where Mr. L. in a trance be-like , being there one of his Auditors , heard him preach thus . But afterwards ( to wit , since he either left or lost his Prelates place ) in hope of Bishops , Deans , or Chapters Lands , he became a pretended Presbyterian . He would , at least , have men believ ▪ that I was sometime Prelatical ; but have of late turned my coat or my copie , and gaping after some fat gobbets of the Bishops or Deans Lands , pretended to be a Presbyterian . A calumnie as fals as its Father is , or as his former Brat hath been convinced to be : And such as he shall never be able to make good , tho his Master , that sets him on work , joyn with him in it . For my judgment concerning Church-Government , it is the same stil that ever it was , since I first began to enqire into matters of that nature . A dulie bounded and wel regulated Prelacie joined with a Presbyterie , wherein one as President , Superintendent or Moderator ( term him what you please , ) whether annual or occasional , or more constant and continual , either in regard of yeers , or parts , or both joyntlie , hath some preeminence above the rest , yet so , as that he doth nothing without joint consent of the rest , ( a module or patern , whereof I am enformed to have been sometime represented unto the late King , by two worthy persons , men of eminent parts , and moderate mindes , the one a Prelate , the other in some kind Prelatical , which had it been accepted and established , how advantagious it might have proved , it is not for me to define ; but as is reported , was then disallowed and rejected by some great Prelates , and others , by whom the King was most swayed . ) Such a manner of Prelacie , I say , I never durst , nor yet dare condemn . But such a Prelatical power , as was here constituted and exercised among us , wherein Bishops and Arch-deacons were enabled and ordinarilie used by their Chancellors , Officials , and Surrogates , mostlie meer Civilians , assuming to them anie sorie felow in Orders to fit by , as a cipher or a shadow , to pass the highest and heaviest of all Church-Censures , besides Civil Penalties in their Purses , on the Persons both of Pastors and People , and for trifles and trivial things , meer matters of Ceremonie , oft-times silence , suspend , and deprive , while scandalous , idle , or insufficient ones , were little regarded or looked after ; Visitations being by either usuallie held once onelie in a yeer , and then rather of Cours and Custom , or to receiv Procurations , then to anie effectual Reformation of ought . Such a Prelatical power so constituted , and so executed , I never could effect or approv ; and trulie much less , when I came to see the manner of it , which I had heard too much of before , when living so long in a Pastoral Charge , I never in all my time saw the face of a Bishop personallie present in Court , or Arch-deacon but once , ( tho both constantlie exacting Fees of us . ) And observed , how things were shuffled up , when Presentments were made , and in that manner managed ; without anie cours taken to bring anie Delinqent , to a serious sight of , or sincere sorow for his sin ; that their Visitations might wel be deemed to be held , as one ancientlie complained , Non tam morum , qam nummorum gratiâ ; Rather to emptie mens Purses , then to mend their manners . And my judgment thus formed , I accordinglie passed my vote , and gave my consent with others , for the removal of that Bodie of Government , that was then established with us . Yet ( which I then also did not forbear to profess , as wel in deliverie of mine own sense , as in endeavor to give satisfaction to others , seeking to me for advice , ) withal conceiving , That howsoever such a System or Fabrick , as was then represented , were justlie and deservedlie deemed not unmeet to be dissolved and demolished ; yet if anie peice of timber or stone-work were found sound and useful in that frame , it might stil be retained , notwithstanding ought , condescended unto and agreed upon in that Article . On the other side , I could not but affect and approv of that Form of Discipline setled in the Reformed French and Dutch Churches , wherein the main cours of Government is ordinarilie exercised , caried on by a constant attendance of the Ministers in their several Congregations , having for inspection of mens cariages , some of the discreetest and most understanding among their people , in way of assistance , adjoyned unto them ; which might wel be a special means , both to ease the Minister of much labor and distraction , and to further the Reformation of things among the people amiss . Matters more weightie , that reqire further advice , being referred unto , and transacted by the joint concurrence of the same persons of both sorts before mentioned , either at set-times or occasionallie convening to that purpose . Herein I was the rather confirmed by the successful fruits and effects that this Form of Government is reported to have produced , for the advancement of pietie and repressing of disorders in some places , where it hath been established , even by the confession and acknowledgement of some Papists themselvs , who ( as I have formerly elsewhere shewed ) have given Testimonie thereunto . Tho it cannot be expected that anie Churches should enjoy such a flourishing estate , in regard of outward accommodations and secular endowments , where the Civil Powers do rather d●stast and dis-favor , then affect the Profession . And this way therefore I gave my Vote in the Assemblie , as divers other , if not the greater part , did ; not as deeming it absolutelie necessarie , but as agreeable to Gods Word , and such as I conceived might be most advantagious for the carrying on of Gods work , with hopeful expectation of a successful issu , had that Form of Government , as it was from the Assemblie to both Houses propounded , been soundly established , and backed by their Autoritie , who had begun to erect it . My deportment therefore and cariage herein , did no way swar● or warp from my former judgment ; which both in times past I held , and do stil retain , as wel concerning Prelacie , as concerning Presbyterie , even the same that at present I here ingenuouslie and freelie profess . In regard whereof also in those fore-passed troublesom times under the Prelates , I maintained a good correspondence , and some inward familiaritie with the moderater sort on either side ; as wel with some few of the Prelatical partie , who tho stiff for the Ceremonies legallie established , yet misliked those innovations that in the latter times began to creep in ; nor did approv the cariage of businesses with that rigor and extremitie against such as refused conformitie , being pious and peaceable ; as also with divers of those , of the Presbyterian partie , that either openlie opposed , or were known to condemn as wel the Ceremonies as the Prelacie , as things altogether unlawful , and deemed the Presbyterie such as before was described the onelie tru Government of Christ . Howbeit , by this means that befel me , which that noble Historian sometime said , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , Vtrinque caedi mos est in medio fitos : Those that dwel in the middle , between two adverse parties , ar wont to be beaten on both sides ; and that Gregorie that bears the name of the place where his Father was Bishop , tho he never enjoyed the Bishoprick it self , a man of a modest and peaceable disposition , tho as zealous and eager as anie against Hereticks , complains of the times ●e lived in , that amidst the vehement dissentions and violent oppositions , with much eagernes upheld and pursued by either against others , even between and among those , that were otherwise Orthodox , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , All that ar peaceable and keep in the mean , because they run not out into the one or the other extremitie , suffer ill from either partie . So fared it then with me , by endeavoring to walk evenlie , so far , as with safetie of conscience I could , between two extreams on either hand , it was my lot to incur il wil , and to suffer from the over-eager on either side ; from the one partie , because I came not up whollie to them , and because some of their people repaired to my teaching , while they either taught not at all , or verie seldom themselvs , and substituted such as taught so unprofitablie , that their people could receiv little benefit by them ; which they therefore being vexed at , wrought underhand against me , and sought to procure a restraint of my Ministerie ; wherein yet , through Gods goodness , their plots and designs were so frustrate , that save once , and that for a verie short time onelie , they never took effect according to their as wel endeavors , as desires ; and again from some of the violenter sort of the other partie , such of them especially as endeavored to work a Separation from our Assemblies , being deeplie taxed by them of unsoundness and insinceritie , because I complied not in all particulars , either for opinion or practise with them , nor did encite and animate others to do as they did . Mean while I have endeavored to shape my cours , as near and as evenlie as I could , by the card of Gods truth discovered in his Word , and the compass of mine own Conscience , from thence enformed and directed thereunto , without declining to anie by-path , either on the right hand , or on the left . In which tenor the Lord in mercy and goodness be pleased stil to keep me , and to lead me on to the last , which must needs be ere long . But what was it , think we , saith this my Traducer , that from a professed Prelate , induced me to turn a pretended Presbyterian ? It was the hope forsooth , saith he , of some Bishops or Deans Lands ? And how doth that appear ? Why ? since its decay the poor man is mute . I marvel much , when or where I was ever discovered , either formerlie , or of late , to gape after such gobbets . The time was , when by occasion of some employment about the Edition of a learned mans works of another Profession , left by him to be first surveyed and perfected in part by me , and then published with the joynt advice of an ancient Doctor verie intimate with the Archbishop that then was , and living mostlie in house with him , I had tender of preferment made me by the Doctor at first from him , and upon presentment of the work by word of mouth , after seconded in the presence of some great ones , if I would have been biting at such baits ; which I fairlie waived , considering what hooks might lie hid under such profers , and how manie have been taken therewith to their prejudice in matters of greatest concernment . Nor , had I been greedie of anie such fat collops , out of the Bishops or Deans Lands , would I have refused one of the prime places in the Universitie , of which , further hereafter , wherein no such snare was , when it was freelie offered me , being in yearlie revenue , I suppose , not below divers Deanries , if not above some meaner Bishopricks . But the proof subjoined , is wel worth the observing ; tho he jabbers so , that one can hardlie tel from his words , what he would have . Since its decay , saith he . What 's decay , think we ? the decay of the Presbyterie ? or the decay of the Lands ? or , what other decay is it ? For we have need of some Oedipus , to aread us his riddles . But , since its decay , ( be it what it wil be , or what ever he wil have it to be ) the man , saith he , is become mute . His meaning is , it may be ; ( for we must go by guess , as the most and the best ar said to do of his trade ) that since those Lands he looked after , and lived in hope of , ar gone another way , and so he sees his hopes frustrate , the poor man ( and yet not verie poor , if , as he affirms , he receivs stil from his Rectorie Two hundred pound a year ) is grown mute . But sure , if he had faln from the Prelatical to the Presbyterian partie , or pretended onelie so to do , in hope of getting some such Lands thereby , one would think , he should now again desert that partie , when he perceivs that there is nothing to be gotten by adhering thereunto , yea , when he sustains , as shal hereafter appear , no smal damage thereby , and be mute indeed , in forbearing to speak or write ought in behalf of the Presbyterie , especiallie now seeing , finding , and feeling it to be a cours so disadvantagious . But the man finds it to be otherwise , to his grief , it may be in part ; for neither am I yet so mute , but that he hears on both ears from me , much more , I suppose , then he can wel indure to read , or is willing to hear ; nor have I sealed up my lips yet , from owning and pleading for the Presbyterian partie . For which cause also , belike he stiles me , as before a stiff Prelate , so now a stiff-necked , or ( as one of his Vouchees is pleased to stile me ) a stiff-hearted Presbyterian ; who , tho the Presbyterians be under a cloud with him , and with the State too , as he deems , yet persists stil in defending of them against his calumnies ; and is neither mute nor meal-mouthed with him , for his shameless , immodest , and malitious , dealing with them . That his Vouchee , Auto● , or Advocate ( cal him which you please , of whom before , and further hereafter ) in a Pamphlet ful of scurrilitie , and not free from Poperie , telleth his Auditorie a Tale , or a Parable , as he terms it , That the Church of England in the non-age of this latter age , being with childe , brought forth her eldest son , the Bishop ; who grew apt to learn , and to make a good Scholar ; and to him she gave her Lands : Speedilie after she brought to light another boy , the Prebend ; and to him she gave goodlie houses annexed to Cathedral Churches , and fit pensions : She grew big again , and with more hast then good speed , brought into the world , a poor , weak , rash , dul , simple boy , the poor Curate , accordinglie provided . For having alreadie given away Lands and Houses , she gave him freelie the Wallet behind the door . Then having for manie yeers laid down her humor of Child-bearing , at length the humor took her again , and she conceived , bore with great pain , and brought forth in a fright , with much trouble and imminent danger of life , her last boy , to whom she gave a most hard Greek name 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . I wil not cal it Nomen absoletum ( obsoletum , it is like he meant ) & velut rubigine infectum , a name grown out of use , and rustie , but confidenter dicam ; I wil say with courage , ( and he had need of some courage or confidence at least , as his Latin sounds rather , to utter so notorious an untruth ) that it was never acknowledged before in the pretended sense . His education was mean ; for he was not brought up to much learning ; yet experience and practise wrought him into a pert , but a most unhappie Knave , in the sense of all English , new and old ; one that could act a part notablie , and make faces and mouths , &c. This being his Mothers fourth and last child , and having before given her Lands to the first , her Houses to the second , her Wallet to the third ; and having nothing left to bestow on him , she left him to shift for himself . I let pass his scurrilitie for the present , related onelie here to present the Reader with a taste beforehand , of what he shal further hear more in the close ; onelie this now . If it be as he saith , that the poor Presbyter is left so needie , nittie , bare , and wors then beggerlie , without House or Land , or so much as a Wallet to go a begging with , but is utterlie abandoned by his own parent , and left to the wide world to shift for himself ; then sure I , who was never yet ( I praise God ) acqainted with shifting ; what himself hath been , I know not : Tho he report as trulie as some other things here , whereof that of the name Presbyter never acknowledged in the pretended sense , til bred and brought forth here : And how do they then , himself among others , fetch the pedegree of it from Geneva ? that I should say , He came over hither , with never a pennie in his purs . But if it be , I say , as he saith , I surelie must needs be either a stark fool , in pretending to Presbyterie , or a stiff and fast friend to that partie , or the former rather , because the latter , if preferment and lucre be the end of my pretension , in adhering stil so close to it , and pleading so much for it , when it is in so low , bad , bare , base , dejected , and despicable condition , even below the Beggers Wallet . And thus having dispatcht this former scandalous charge , wherein the principal point charged upon me was Profaneness , I shall proceed on to his latter slanderous aspersion , wherein the main matter objected against me , is Covetousness . That old covetous Churl , saith he , the Parson , Rector , or rather Receiver of the Tithes , Profits , and all Appurtenances of Church duties at Redriff , near London , that is now mute and hath willinglie silenced himself from Preaching , receivs Two hundred pounds per annum , and yet Preacheth not for it . The Noble Emperor before-mentioned , was more careful , as was above related , of clearing himself from the imputation of that most hateful vice of Covetousness , then of anie other crime . And I shal accordinglie , treading in his steps , take somewhat the more pains herein ; reqesting my Readers patience and pardon , if I shal seem to detain him over-long , in relating somewhat more particularlie , and a little more largelie , tho not so necessarilie otherwise , both mine entrance into , continuance in , and receipts from , the places of my set led Ministerie , from the first to the last ; nor am I sorrie , that by this shameless Sycophants palpable slanders , I have occasion given me of rendring some account to the world , of divers passages in my Ministerial employment , whereby it may appear , how free I have ever been from anie such fordid disposition . It was by some ancient Philosophers held , that in every generation or production of ought , there was a 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , a general mixture of the seeds or principles of all things : and of the affection of anger , a grave Author saith , that there is in it 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , a general mixture of the seeds of all other evil affections . But of mans Soul we may truly say , that it is by nature like an untilled soil : as il weeds of all sorts pomiscuously growing in the one , so wicked and corrupt affections of all kinds harboring in the other ; so that it may wel , not unfidie be termed a 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , a seed-plot , or ( if you wil ) sentina , a sink , and commonsewer of all sorts o● sin . Howbeit , as Seneca also wel observs ; Stultus omnia vitia habet ; sed non in omnia natur â pronus est . Omnia in omnibus vitia sunt : sed non omnia in singulis extant . Omnia omnibus insunt ; sed in qibusdam singula eminent . The foolish heart of man though fraught with all manner of vice ; yet is not by nature alike prone or addicted to all . All vices , tho existent in all , yet are not extant in each one , but some of them are more eminent then the rest in some , and other of them in others . As in a ground untilled , tho great varietie of weeds , there is usuallie some master weed , some one among the rest , that is rifer and ranker then any of the rest . And as it is in the bodie of man , that altho in some degree or other , more or les , there be a mixture of all the four humors , not anie of them whollie wanting ; yet there is some one of them predominant , that gives the domination , in regard whereof some are said to be of a Sanguine , some of a Phlegmatick , some of a Cholerick , and some of a Melancholick Constitution ; so is it also in the soul , tho there be a general mixture and medlie of al evil , and corrupt qalities ; yet is there some one usuallie more powerful and prevalent , that swayeth and sheweth forth it self more eminentlie and evidentlie then anie other of them do : and from this therefore , more frequentlie and apparentlie discovering it self , is the denomination wont to be given , whereby some ar styled ambitious , some covetous , some lascivious , some envious , some malicious , some haughtie , some hastie , and the like . Yea , according to this consideration , even after the gracious work of regeneration , there remains as a smatch of all sin in some degree or other , so more freqent sproutings out of that master corruption , that bare most sway before , even in the most renewed , and best reformed ; as in a peece of ground , even after the best and most accurate tillage , some seeds and roots of those noisome weeds , wherewith it was formerlie much pestered , w●l stil remain , and wil be springing up , be it never so sedulously and assiduously managed . Hence it is , that , not Proclus , or Proculus rather , an old rotten Heretick , as some Popish writers would have it , but Methodius , an ancient Bishop , and valiant Martyr , compares inbred corruption in mans heart to a wild fig-tree growing upon the wal of some goodlie Temple or statelie Palace , whereof albeit the main trunk of the stem be broke off , and stump of the root plucked out , yet the fibrous strings of it piercing into the joynts of the stone-work wil not utterlie be extracted , and wil be ever anon shooting and sprouting out , until the whole frame of the building be all dissolved , and the stone-work thereof dis-joynted and pulled all to peeces . But of this more elswhere . Howsoever therefore , I dare not presume to challenge to my self an immunitie from the common condition of all Adams sinful posterity ; but must needs acknowledge in my self a general taint , and that a deep one , of all sin whatsoever : Yet for this particular corruption of Covetousnes , wherewith this fals traducer so freqentlie upbraideth me , and so virulentlie chargeth me , I hope , I may in the sight and presence of God trulie and sincerelie profess , that it , of all other , ever had the least power over me , or in me ; And I hope , there are none , that have thoroughlie known me , but wil testifie for me , how far my courses and carriages have always been from giving cause to suspect in me a mind subject thereunto : Wherein therefore I shal endevor to cleer and approv my self , not to them so much as unto others . I find in divers Ancient Canons and Councels a restraint of remoovals of Ministers from Charge to Charge . And howsoever I make no qestion , but that in many cases it may be , not lawful onely , but even necessary , in which Cases the Canon saith , Non mutat sedem , qi non mutat mentem . He changeth not his seat , that changeth not his mind . The meaning I suppose is , that he comes not within compass of that change which the Canon inhibites and condemns . I would rather , speaking more plainly , say , as he , Coelum , non animum , so , Sedem , non mentem , mutat , In such cases a man , tho he change his Charge , yet may not change his affection , tho he retain not stil the same seat , yet may he retain still the same mind and disposition ; and such changes therefore do not necessarilie argu anie evil or corrupt habit in the heart ; yet freqent removals upon unnecessarie occasions have been ever esteemed to have some smatch , as one of the Ancients observs , Aut avaritiae , an t ambitionis ; Either of ●varice or ambition : And that the rather , saith he , Qia nullus hac in re invent us sit , qi de majore ad minorem transier it ; Because never ani● had been found to remov , but from a less place to a greater , from a poorer to a richer . And indeed to remov oft from place to place for some smal advantage thereby to be atchieved , no other consideration of moment reqiring or enforcing a change , may give just suspition , either of an unsetled brain , or of a covetous disposition . Now for mine own part , I cannot be charged to have been faultie in this kind . In two places onelie have I exercised a setled Ministerie for these Two and fiftie years , seated Ten years in the one place , and Fourty two in the other . The former place , wherein I was seated , was the worthie Societie of the Professors , Practisers , and Students of the Common Law of this Land in Lincolns Inn. For mine entrance whereunto , that I may not be taxed of ambition for undertaking such a place at so few years , after so famous men , as had with much credit formerlie held and discharged it , I shal to free my self from that aspersion , give a tru account how I came to it . Having upon some occasion obtained Licence of discontinuance from the Colledge , whereof I was Fellow , from the Earl of Kent , and the Lord Harrington , the Countess of Sussex her Trustees for the founding thereof , and abiding now with Sir William Cook , my Kinsman , at London , the Preachers place at Lincolns Inn became vacant ; Whereupon a Gentleman of that House , to me a meer stranger , but of my reverend and inward Friend Mr. Stocks acqaintance , at whose Church he had sometime heard me Preach , together with him repairing to me , acqainted me with the business , encited me to put in for it , assuring me , that by the Lord Chief Justice Pophams mediation , whom he knew to favor me , it might easilie be obtained . I was verie avers to the motion ; albeit , that Mr. Stock also instigated and encouraged me thereunto . But my counter-plea to them both was , That I durst not adventure , so young and raw , to look so high . While we were to and fro debating the business , in that verie conjuncture of time , Dr. Mountague , Master of the Colledge , being come up to the Citie about some Colledge affairs , was pleased to vouchsafe me a visit , desirous to draw me back to the Colledge ; and telling me , That he had prevailed with the Lord Harrington to allow a Salarie for an Hebrew Lecture , which he would have me to read . But being enformed by Mr. Stock , upon what account they were with me , he earnestlie pressed it , that I should in no wise refuse it ; it would be a grace to the Colledge , to have the first that went out of it , to settle in a place of that note ; nor should I need to seek or su for it , or to be seen at all in it : He , being the next day to attend the Lord Popham about a Colledge business , would break the matter to him ; which being accordinglie performed by him , his Lordship immediatelie sent his Secretarie to the cheif of the House ; by whom being invited to Preach the next Lords day with them , I was within few days after chosen their Lecturer . And indeed had it been of mine own seeking , I could hardlie have satisfied or justified my self in a spontaneous undertaking of such a charge . For the truth is . I was but young , and seemed younger then indeed I was . In regard whereof , it might not altogether undeservedlie have been deemed of me , that I had flown out of the nest , before I was wel fledged ; and that it had been better for me , as David willed his Embassadors returning from the Ammonites , to have stayed at Jericho among the sons of the Prophets , until my Beard had been better grown . Nor may it be amiss here , to recreat my Reader , with a plain Corydons censure , about that time , past on me . Mr. Leigh , afterward Sir James Leigh , and Lord Treasurer , was that yeer Reader at Lincolns Inn , and having his familie in Town , both he and his wife heard me Preach one Lords day at Martins in the Fields . Whence after return from the Sermon , Mistress Leigh was pleased to ask an old Servant , with whom , by reason of long continuance in the familie , they were wont to talk more familiarlie , How he liked the Preacher ; who returned her this blunt answer , That he was a prettie pert Boy , but he made a reasonable good Sermon . Not manie weeks after Mr. Leigh returning from Lincolns Inn , told his wife , he would tel her some news , That Yong man , said he , whom you heard at St. Martins , is chosen our Lecturer at Lincolns Inn ; which the old felow standing by , when he heard , askt Whether the old Benchers would be taught by such a Boy as he . Howbeit , it pleased God so to dispose of it , that I was courteouslie entertained by them ; nor was my youth in contempt with them , but I received as much respect from them as I could desire , yea , much more then I could expect . Which kind and courteous usage tied me so fast to them , ( as to such bands may that of him in the Comick be wel-applied , Qam magis extendas , tanto adstringunt arctiùs , The more they are let out , the straiter they bind , the stronger and faster they hold . ) That they kept me a longer time with them , then anie one , yea , then divers put together , that had been before me , had made stay among them . For , as I have been enformed , Mr. Cha●k , who is said to have been the first setled constant Preacher at Lincoln Inn , as Dr. Crook at Greys Inn , and Father Lever ( for so by my Father , and others , I always heard him styled ) at the Temple , continued not above eight year with them ; being removed , as was suspected , through the secret undermining of one of prime note then in the House , who upon a private grudge , wrought underhand with the Archbishop for his removal . After him successively folowed Mr. Field , Mr. Eglionbie , Mr. Crakenthorp , Mr. Pulley ; whose times all put together , ar said scarce to have made up so manie yeers , as amounted to my Ten. But it may be surm sed , that either the largeness of the allowance , or the want of means to mend my self , kept me so long with them . Surelie , neither of both . For my Salarie for the first five yeers or thereabout , was but Fourtie pounds per annum ; yet as much as anie of my Predecessors had formerlie received . Howbeit after , when I married , and had a Familie in the Citie , they raised it to Threescore of their own accord , without anie motion of mine ; but withal they reqested me to Preach once a day in the Vacation time , when anie store of companie was in the House ; as in the two shorter ones constantlie , and in the two longer , until the solemn Readings were over , usuallie there was . That which I also was right-willing to do , making mine abode in the Citie , whereas formerlie I was wont to spend the Vacations with a Knight , my Kinsman , in the Countrey . Nor wanted I opportunitie more then once or twice , while I staid there , to have mended my means , had I been eagerlie bent , or had but a minde thereunto . For I had places more then two or three offered me , both from Gentlemen in the House , and from others abroad . First , The Lectureship at the Rolls being vacant , offer was made to me of it from Sir Edward Philips , then Master of the Rolls , by Sir Robert his Son , and Mr. Whitakers his Secretarie , who both used to hear me ; supposing that I might wel enough discharge both , being no farther asunder , and but for once a day with either , and that at the Inn at seven in the morning ; which I waived , willing to reserv my self whollie to the place where I was . But this was no motion for removal ; some addition to my means onelie : That which foloweth was , After that my Morning Lecture was reduced , or deduced rather , to the ordinarie hour in most places , Mr. Masters Master of the Temple ( for that Title his place there bare ) his own Lecture continuing at the wonted hour , used , after that dispatched , to repair to mine , as I did to Dr. Leyfields at Clements , until that cours was in the Inn altred , as before hath been related . Mean while the Lecturers place falling void at the Temple , he by a wile drew me to Preach one Afternoon on the Week Lecture day there ; And shortlie after ( I little dreaming ought of his intention therein ) repaired to me with a motion from some of special note and power there , to remove thither ; withal assuring me , that the place would be of double value to me , to what I had where I was . But my Answer to him was , that I would not on anie terms shift from one Inn of Court to another . Much about the same time , that hopeful Prince Henrie , whose life in likelihood the sins of this Land , and of those times shortned , keeping his Court at St. James , where abode with him that Mirror of Nobilitie , the young Lord Harrington , and attended on him that Religious Knight Sir Robert Darcie , these two with some other Gracious Ones of His Graces Court , freqented my Ministerie in the Afternoons especiallie ; which for some space of time I then spent in handling of some Points in Controversie between us , and the Papists , being enformed that divers Popish Priests , or Sprites , if you please , hanted the House , and were verie busie in laboring to pervert the yong Gentlemen . The Notes of one of those Sermons Sir Robert Darcie , by mine inward and entire friend , Mr. Bradshaw , got from me , under the Title of The Popes Pride , and Papists Idol . This he and the yong Lord imparted to the Prince ; and upon such further terms of recommendation , as they were pleased to adjoin , and his good opinion of me , as they conceived , thereby produced , they took the boldness by my worthie Friend Mr. Hildersham , and Mr. Jacob joining with him , to solicite me to come and Preach one day before the Prince at his Court ; not doubting to prevail with him to bring me in to be his Chaplain , and by the assistance of Bishop Mountague , then in favor with the King his Father , to procure for me that place of constant attendance in that kind about him , that was sometime designed to Mr. John Burges , had not the design miscarried by a Sermon which he preached before the King , and cost him much trouble . Unto which motion , I desired by them to be returned , after thankful acknowledgment of deep engagement to those worthy persons , for their good opinion of me , and affection to me , That as I deemed my self unworthie of so great a favor , so I wel knew my self verie unfit for such an employment , being naturallie of a verie bashful disposition , and finding in my self a great indisposition and aversness to Courtlie attendance , and reqested therefore of them , that no motion or mention might be further made of ought in that kind . Among others of note that were there my frequent Auditors , by reason of the Vicinitie of his House in Holborn , was the Right Honorable Lord Rich , Father to the present Right Honorable Earl of Warwick , whose freeness and conscientiousness in the donation and disposal of such Ecclesiastical places as he had interest in , is to all that knew him not unknown . In his gift a living of good valu being vacant , which after one Dr. Tabor , Dr. Harris enjoyed , notice was given to me of it , with signification that I might have it , if I would accept of it , but my answer was , That I desired not to undertake a Pastoral Charge , nor to leav Lincolns Inn. And indeed the times under King James , contrarie ●o expectation , and to what most men , tho on weak grounds ( as to me 〈…〉 er seemed ) promised unto themselvs , especiallie after that formal Conference at Hampton Court , proving more troublesom , then formerlie they had been , made me the rather willing to rest contented with a smal portion in a priviledged place , then by removing to a place of larger revenue , to attract more distraction , and expose my self to the hazard of greater disturbance . In reference to this refusal , that Noble Lord , being present at a Sermon at Lincolns Inn , wherein I took my leav of them , being then upon departure ( tho constrained afterward for some unexpected occasion to stay a Term , or two longer ) demanded of some of the Ancients of the House , among whom he there sat , Whether I were leaving them ; as marvelling , how my mind came to be changed from that which I had formerlie professed . During the time of mine abode there , there lived much in the House , not as Practitioners in the Law , but as Associates with the Bench , two worthy Knights of eminent parts for variety of lerning and reading , Sir Roger Owen , and Sir William Sidley ; and I was for their entire affection much beholden to them both . Sir R. Owen would gladlie had me seated in Shropshire , where my Father was born in an ancient House , the name whereof our Familie beareth , being allied unto most of the ancient Gentrie in that Countie ; wherein also a Living of good revenue was offered me by a Merchant , that Contrey-man by birth , in the City , if I would have gone to it . But Sir W. Sidley was very desirous rather to draw me down into Kent , and to that purpose , a great Living , not far from the place of his cheif residence , falling void by the Incumbents decess , tho being not in his own gift , but in the gift of one , whom he had special interest in , presuming therupon , he offered to procure it for me . This motion to waiv , when I alledged my loathnes to leav Lincolns-Inn ; he replied , that his intent was not , that I should leav my place there ; that in Kent would afford means to maintain an Assistant , who might for the Term time discharge all there , while I was employed here . But I told him , the burthen between both would be too heavie for my infirm shoulders to bear . And so that businesse broke also off . Men that are of a free and ingenuous disposition , are wont to conceiv ( according to that of the Mimik , Beneficium dando accepit , qi digno dedit ) that they receiv a benefit themselvs , in doing others a pleasure . That which even a cruel Tyrann ( tho in all likelihood dissemblinglie ) professed sometime in these words ; 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . In giving to good men , I make account that I receiv a greater courtesie by much from them , then I bestow upon them ; And that trulie noble-minded Emperor , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , that a benefit rightlie bestowed was no less advantageous to him that gav it , then to him that received it . And no marvel then if with such 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , It is a pleasure to do a pleasure , and a delight to exercise themselvs in wel-doing ; Yea , as an ancient grave Autor , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , It is a more cheerful thing to do good , then to have good done one : and the inward joy of the mind is greater , more pure , more immixt in that , then in this ; Since that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , there is some kind of bashfulness oft in receiving , but meer cheerfulness with such in giving . And on the other side , hence it comes to pass , which the same Autor also observes , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , t 〈…〉 t as it is matter of much joy and gladness to them , when their gift is received , and their kindness accepted , as it is with an Archer , desirous to shew his skil in shooting , when he hath hit the white or cloven the peg ; because they do 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , as that Noble Emperor speaks , that is , as Seneca expresseth it , dare ut dent , or , ut ne non dederint , their main aim in giving , is , that they may have given , in doing a courtesie , that they may have done one a good turn ; so , because that cannot be , unless the gift be received , and their kindness accepted , it is no less matter of grief unto them , and they ar wont to take it ill , when it so falleth out , that their gift is rejected , their kindness refused ; as it is in such case to the archer , when he misseth the mark he shot at ; ( that which made the Indian , reported to Alexander to be so expert in that facultie , that he could at a great distance shoot thorow a narrow Ring , refuse before the King to shew his skil , tho his life lay upon it , fearing , lest through disuse , he might fail in the design ) because they miss of that which was their main aim and end in that their assay , not taking effect according to their desire , to do the partie a pleasure . And thus indeed it fared with that Noble and Noble-minded Knight Sir W. S. before mentioned , who acquainting some of the Bench with what had passed between him and me , he seemed to them to relate it not without some shew and semblance of reg 〈…〉 and offence , as not so wel resenting my refusal of his so free and kind offer ; that which I was informed of by Mr. Tho. Hitchcock one of the Bench , and of those to whom he had broken his mind concerning that business ; and who merrily afterward in familiar discourse was pleased to put the fool upon me for it . For being a man of a pleasant wit , at the Table sometime disposed to be merry ( as his manner oft , but without offence , was ) upon occasion of such discours as came in the way , he told those his fellow-Benchers that were in the same Messe with him , that he had in his Study a Book called the Ship of Fools , and that they should all three of them go into it , one for refusing a large fee offered him in a great mans cause , which he liked not , another , for returning his Clients Fee , having waited at the Bar ; when the Cause could not be heard ; a third for some other such like matter , which I now remember not ; and being demanded by one of them concerning me , being in the same Mess , whether I were therein to bear them company too : Yes , ( quoth he ) he must in upon a double account ; First , He sits here among us , and takes a great deal of pains with us for a smal confideration , and being by Sir W. S. offered a far better Place elswhere , he refuseth to accept it , when it may be he may sit long enough here , ere he have the like offer made him again ; and again , what he here receivs he laies out in Books , and cannot read over the one half of them , when he hath done . To the latter whereof , I replied merilie , waving the former , that a Workman that makes use of many Tools , must buy some to ly by him , tho scarce in seven yeer he have use of them , that he may have them at hand when he shal need them , and may otherwise hardlie get them elswhere . And if Mr. Lilie shal think good to put me into the ship , for taking so much pains to wash my self from his groundles espersions , I shal not be angrie with him for it , nor troubled at all with it . Divers of these both offers and refusals were not unknown to the Bodie of the Bench , who therefore at one of their meetings , some speech falling in concerning me , by joynt consent agreed to take a cours for the procuring of a Prebendship for me either at Pauls or Westminster ; for the effecting whereof , Mr. Atturney General , Sir Henry Hobart , undertook to make use of his utmost power , when opportunity should be ; as also for the providing of one , in room of their old Reader entertained to be Dr. Whites Curate at Dunstans , that might ease me of my pains with them in the Vacations ; which to incourage my stay with them , they caused Mr. Rondolf Crew , afterward Lord Chief Justice of the Kings Bench , to give notice of to me ; and withal to testifie their affection to me , admitted and entered me in their Leagier Book as a Member of the Societie ; which to some of my Predecessors in the place had not been done . The latter indeed of their resolutions took not its desired effect , through the humorous disposition of one that was recommended unto them ; but was afterward effected for those that succeeded me . The former could not so sudainly be compassed ; and my removal prevented the accomplishment of it ; that which I am not sorrie for . Much about the same time , my time came in the University , for taking the Degree of Doctor in Divinitie : which being known in the House , divers of the Ancients with whom I was most familiar , incited me to the undertaking of it ; alleging that it might be a step for me to further preferment , or ( as other some phrased it ) a stirrup to help up into the Saddle ; which mention of the Saddle might well have minded me of what one in the Greek Comik speaking to an old man , that would needs be a Cavalier , saith , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that he did not wisely , nor advisedlie , in listing himself in a Regiment of hors , and getting up into the Saddle before he had got skil to manage his Hors wel , that he might sit sure in the Saddle . But to encourage me hereunto , they assured me , that the House would no doubt contribute liberallie toward the charge of my Commencement ; withal relating what they had sent as a gratuitie to Dr. King , when he took that Degree , because the House stood part of it in his Parish , and divers of them used to hear him , and he was wont before he was Dean of Christs-Church in Oxford , to bestow a Sermon once or twice a yeer upon them , as he did also twice at two solemn Festivals in my time , when he was Bishop . But I told them merilie , They must first make me a Doctor-like maintenance , ere I would take the degree of Doctor ; that threescore pounds a yeer would not maintain that state , that the Degree of a Doctor reqired . And being afterwards by some of my frends blamed for letting slip that opportunitie , and some others , wherein the Degree might have been had , with more ease and less charge then ordinarie , as at the time of His Majesties visiting the Universitie , what time were divers created Doctors without attendance to keep Acts ; and not manie yeers after , when the plague was hot in the Town there , not a few , that would adventure thither , obtained the Degree , without wonted performance of Acts , or usual charge of entertainment : Unto them I made answer , That if ever I took the Degree of Doctor , I would so do it , as that I would not be styled either a Royal , or a Pestilential Doctor ; which by names were in common speech given unto those that had taken that Degree , at either of those times . As also to others , who demanded of me , why I took it not together with three other of my Reverend Brethren here about the Citie , coming short of me all more or less in age , and in our Universitie standings much more , all three now at length deceased before me ; I returned answer then as merilie , that I was of that Old Romans mind , who used to say , He would rather have people , when he was gone , enqire why he had no statu set him up , then why he had anie ; So I would rather have men hereafter demand a Reason , why I took not the Degree , then to mov qestion why I did . As also , according to that of the Philosopher , who being urged by his Mother to marrie , when as yet but yong , told her , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , it was not time yet ; and again prest by her , when further in yeers , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , it was past time then : To some that manie yeers after renewed the former motion to me , I returned , That I was now superannated , and having waived the Degree , when I might have had it at thirtie five , would not now sure seek or look after it at threescore . At which yeer also giving over mine Anniversarie Visitation of the Free-School at Tunbridge , which ( at the reqest of the Worshipful Societie of Skinners in London , the careful and faithful Trustees of Sir Andrew Jud , the Founder thereof ) I had constantlie for manie yeers together discharged , in taking my leav of them , I told them , that being now Sexagenarius , I might by future repair thither , run the hazard of being Depontanus , or De ponte dejectus , as men of those yeers ancientlie were at Rome . But I digress to far , and yet these digressions as analecta qaedam scattered here and there by the way , I suppose will not be unpleasing to a Reader of no over-rigid and unpleasant Disposition , nor offensive , I hope , to anie . But , è diverticulo in viam , to return again into the road . By what hath been related , concerning the means of my maintainance at Lincolns Inn , but withal , the courteous entertainment there constantlie afforded me ; it may appear , that it was neither the largeness of the stipend that staid me so long with them , nor yet anie disrespect , or discontent , that moved me , as some before me , to leav them . For the truth is , for mine Auditorie there , the generalitie of them , were not a people that affected change , either noveltie or varietie ; but rested wel-satisfied with my constant cours and tenor of teaching ; and verie seldom therefore brought in anie to Preach in my room ; in so much ( I may trulie say it ) that scarce above Twelv Sermons in all my Ten yeers with them , were preached there by anie beside my self . Nor were they addicted to stray much abroad , one or two taken much with Dr. King , then Dean of Christ-Church in Oxford , and Parson of St. Andrews in Holborn , used to repair thither to hear him , when they knew that he preached ; and some few would now and then step to Pauls Cross . Among whom that pleasant Gentleman before spoken of , tho it were not freqent with him , being missed one day at Chappel by some of those that used there to fit neer him , and coming late into the Hall at dinner , and being thereupon demanded by one of them , where he had been straying abroad ; I have been , qoth he , at Pauls Cross . Thou wentest thither sure to hear some news , said the other : No trulie , replied he , I went upon another occasion ; but I learned that indeed there , which I never heard of before , how the Ass came by his long ears ; for the Preacher there told us a storie out of a Jewish Rabbin , that Adam after he had named the Creatures , called them one day again before him , to try whether they remembred the names that he had given them ; and having by name cited the Lion , the Lion drew neer to him , and the Hors likewise , but then calling to the Ass in like manner , the Ass having forgotten his name , like an Ass stood stone stil ; whereupon Adam having beckoned to him with his hand , so soon as he came within his reach , caught him with both hands by the ears , and plucked him by them so shrewdlie , that for his short wit he gave him a long pair of ears . Upon this storie told them , one of them told him , he was wel enough served for his gadding abroad ; he might have heard better and more useful matter , had he kept himself at home . But this by the way , not to lengthen , but to lighten the tediousness of this long discours , undertaken not so much to repress Lilies lying tongue , as to render an account of my courses , for better satisfaction both to others , and to my self . But if neither enlargement of means drew me , nor discontent from mine Auditorie drave me away from them , what was it then that either caused or occasioned my removal ? This also I shal trulie and sincerelie relate . The Rectorie of Rotherhith , or as it is commonlie called Rederith , becoming vacant by the decease of the Incumbent , there was some stickling in the Parish about a Successor . For the legal right to present being presumed to rest in two Orphans , tho it was afterward discovered to reside in a third partie , divers of the better affected in the Parish began to negotiate with the Gardian and Friends of those two children under yeers , and from them having obtained a promise , that none should be presented to it , but such an one as they should nominate , repaired unto me , and were earnest with me , that I would accept of it . But I acqainted them with my resolution of not leaving the place where I was ; whereupon they departed , and made trial of bringing in some other . But in prosecution thereof , they found the passage so obstructed , that they were not able to proceed . For a person of no parts , but of verie scandalous life , while the Doctor Incumbent lay sick , had been tampering with the same parties , with whom they were then dealing , before them , about the sale of the Patronage , and the Mother of the Orphans had received somewhat as a gratuitie from him , to deal with them and their Gardian , to bring the business about . And albeit , that the Incumbent dying , ere ought was transacted , the negotiation in regard of anie power to present that could thereby accrew unto him , if they had proceeded then therein with him , would have been of no effect ; and the money were returned him , that the Mother had taken of him ; Yet he persisted in pursuit of a troublesom suit , to draw them to some agreement with him , whereupon he might be presented by them , being underhand backed and fed with money by two Tenants of Sir H. Hobart , then Attorney General to King James , who occupied a great qantitie of Land held from him in the Parish , and had covenanted with that partie to have it tithe free , if he were once possessed of it . The difficultie was much improved by a Caveat they found entred in the Bishops Office , by a Gentleman , one of the Petti-Bag , who pretended a Title ; as also for that Mr. Attorney solicited by his Tenants , and not wel understanding what manner of fellow he was whom they delt for , did in their behalf somewhat countenance their proceedings , and was indeed desirous himself to deal for the Patronage , having much Land in the Parish , with intent in some future vacancie , thereby to have opportunitie of preferring a yong Scholar , who was then School-master in his Familie . Those wel-minded persons therefore , fearing that either that scandalous partie would be obtruded upon them , or some other might chop in , while they were bickering with him ; as it had faln out in a former vacancie , wherein one by a wrong title got in , and held the place ful two yeers ere he could be ejected ; and supposing withal , that if I would accept of it , Mr. Attorney would not onelie surcease to countenance the other partie in that business , but would also help to cleer the way for my entrance ; repaired to Mr. Stock , whom they knew to be inward with me , reqesting him to deal with me , and perswade me to embrace the motion by them formerlie made to me . Who thereupon tendring the condition of the place , accompanied them to me , and was verie earnest with me in it , pressing hard , what a miserable estate that people were likelie to be in upon my refusal , whereas they where I then was , were able enough to furnish themselvs again , to their own contentment upon my removal . At his importunitie , upon such grounds seconding and backing their suit , I condescended so far forth , as to make an assay to try how Mr. Attorney would resent the business , and how far forth he would interpose in it . To this purpose I made use of Mr. Crew , afterward Lord Cheif Justice , a man of tried and known integritie , to break the matter to him . Unto whom his answer was , That he would do anie thing in his power , that should be to my content , and willed that I should come to him . So I did , and told him , that I had upon a motion made to me from some Inhabitants of Rederith , engaged my self to come to them , and settle with them , if the passage were free , the cleering whereof they supposed might depend much upon him . Who , after some Speech had , how glad he should have been of my continuance with them , and in part blaming himself , that nothing had yet been done for the enlargement of my means , If they mean , said he , reallie , as they pretend , and you deem it may be behoveful for you , let them procure you a presentation , and upon sight of it , you shal see what I wil do . This being signified to them , they having by some counsel been enformed , that albeit the Father had by wil beqeathed the perpetual Advocation to his yonger Sons , yet the right thereof by cours of Law rested in the Eldest , which for some causes was as yet deemed fit to conceal , drew him to join with his Brethren , and brought me a Presentation under the Hands and Seals of them all three ; which being represented to Mr. Attorney , he forthwith wrote a Letter to the Bishop , whereby all obstructions were removed , and I admitted without further ado to the place . After it was noised in the House , that I was upon removal , divers of them repaired to me , of whom some out of their private , offered to engage themselvs for such a further supplement , to what I there then received , as should eqal the Revenue of the place motioned to me ; others endeavored to perswade me to retain the place stil , being for the Term time onelie ; to which purpose also some of my Reverend Brethren in the Ministerie were instant with me . But to the former I answered , That I had passed my word to come to them , and that upon other grounds then means of maintainance onelie ; to the other , That the burden would be too weightie for me : And trulie soon I so found and felt , being compelled to continu but a Term or two with them , until they were fitted to their mind . Howsoever divers of those that succeeded me , held other places together with it , some in the Universitie , and some in the Citie ; and indeed my Reverend Father-in-Law Mr. Charls Pinner , whose Daughter I was to marrie , by all means disswaded me from hearkning unto those that would have perswaded me thereunto , affirming , That either place reqired a whole man. Who was also right glad , that by my removal I had escaped the promised preferment to a Prebendarie ; nor was he sorrie , when he understood , that Mr. Attorney had profered me the Title of being his Chaplain ; which I willinglie accepted , being but a titular matter , reqiring no constant attendance , onelie a visit now and than , and a Sermon sometime upon some special occasions , the rather that by his power and countenance , I might sit the more qietlie , and exercise my Ministerie more freelie , in such a place especiallie , where he had Lands of much value , and Tenants deemed to be of the greatest abilitie ; but my Reverend Father in Law , because it might , he said , Keep me from being Chaplain to anie Bishop ; for he used to say , That as the times then were , a Prebends place , and a Bishops Chaplainship , were two shrewd snares : Both which , I bless God for it , I hereby escaped . Nor indeed were my means so much , as manie imagined , improved by removal to the place where as yet I abide , and have now for ful fortie and two yeers resided . For besides that I came to a dwelling house wilfultie much mangled and defaced by the late Incumbents Widow , out of meer spight and spleen , not so much against him that was to succeed , being then uncertain , as against some of the Parish , with whom her Husband had had much contention , and the Wharf before it ( a chargable piece ) readie to drop down ; toward the charge whereof albeit some two or three contributed somewhat , yet the main matter came out of mine own purs ; and the first fruits that were to be paid ; as also that the main Fabrick of the Church supported with Chalkie Pillars , of such a bulk as filled up no smal part of the room , and were found verie faultie , threatning a fail , if not a fall , unless speedilie prevented , to the ruine of the whole ; which to remov and place strong Timber Columns in the room of them , would prov a verie great charge ; albeit , the repair of the Bodie of the Church were no way chargable upon the Rector , yet to encourage others to a freer and larger contribution thereunto , I lanched out of mine own accord so far , having as yet received little benefit of my place , that none out-went me , few to speak of came neer me . Add hereunto , that not long after this a ship firing on the River , just against my house , much endangered it , being covered , as from its first building it had been , with Reed ; which to prevent the like hazard that might , ( as it did also some time ) after ensu , I therefore took away , and in stead thereof ( which was no smal charge to me ) covered it all over with Tile . These things , I say , set aside , which yet shrewdlie drained my smal stock , because they were not a constant charge ; come we to the Annual Revenue in either place , and see what addition was made by this latter to the former . In the place that I left , I received Threescore pounds by the yeer cleer : In the place I came to , finding it a troublesom business to take up Tithes , being paid , except some four of the Parish , by Butchers and Grasiers mostlie , living either in the Borough , or in the Citie , I let out my whole Tithe and Gleab for One hundred pounds by the yeer . Whence deducting the Annual payments of Tenths and Subsidies to the King , the Procurations to the Bishop and Arch-deacon , the Assessments for the poor , wherein I was rated as deep as anie in the Parish , for his personal estate , the yeerlie Salarie to the Curate whom I found in the place , the same that the Doctor had before allowed him , which , tho in regard of his mean parts I could have in my teaching , no help or ease from him ; yet in respect of his povertie , having a Wife and Children , I was fain for divers yeers to continu unto him , until he could furnish himself with some place elswhere , and when he left me , larger means to one of better abilities , from whom I might have some assistance in the work of my Ministerie . These disbursments , I say , deducted , and laid altogether , the improvment , I suppose , wil appear to have been no such great matter . And this was the main matter that I enjoyed here for Ten yeers together ; not receiving ought of constant payment from the main Bodie of the Parish , save from some three or four for the Land that they held . There had indeed been ancientlie a Rent-tithe paid upon the houses ; as in the neighboring Parishes also then was , and stil is : And that even then also , as by the Church-Book appeared , under some not-preaching Ministers , when the Inhabitants besides that payment were fain to maintain one to Preach with them at their own charge . But this had been intermitted , and my Predecessor , after some yeers enjoyment of it , by his own miscarriage of the business , put beside it . For there falling o●t much contention between him , and some of the cheif of the Parish , they set some of the poorer sort on work to denie him payment thereof . Whom he thereupon sued in the Ecclesiastical Court , and made proof there by sufficient witnesses of the constant payment of it , for above Threescore yeers past . But when sentence was readie to pass , a Prohibition came out of the Common Pleas. Whither the business being transferred , the Doctor not wel advised , joined issu amiss with them , and so being cast in the Suit , was debarred from recoverie of ought for himself , tho it were no bar unto anie his Successor . For Ten yeers it thus lay asleep or dead rather after his decease , and mine access to the place . Nor did I receiv a pennie all that while in lieu of it , from the main bodie of those among whom I constantlie exercised my Ministerie . But having sat so long qietlie , and my charge encreasing ; and being enformed of a Record in the First-fruits Office , whereby it appeared , that in the valuation of my Rectorie , taken upon Oath in King Henry the Eighths time , the Tithe on Houses was included as a third part of its valu at a certain rate , according to which valuation I paid my yeerlie Tenths to the King for it ; I made a motion to my people , that since it was agreeable to conscience and eqitie , that the Minister of the Word , who took pains constantlie in the exercise of his Ministerie with a people , ought to receiv a constant maintainance and consideration for it from them ; And that , as I conceived , even by the Law of the Land , such a particular consideration was du unto me , and had from time to time been made good to my Predecessors ; My reqest therefore was , That I might without suit , or trouble , either to them , or my self , with mutual love and agreement , receiv it , or somewhat in an eqitable manner proportionable to it . To this the answer of the most was , That for my self they were wel content , and willing to do somewhat that way ; but they knew not who might come after me , and were loath therefore to oblige themselvs to ought as a du . While thus the business hung in suspence , and nothing done , good words onelie given , that seemed to be as a dilatorie plea ; some of the better affected , moved , that without breach of Charitie , or offence taken on either side , a Trial at Law might be had , in a peaceable and amicable proceeding , whereby the right of the demand might appear what it was , and either side rest in the issu thereof . To this purpose a ●uit was set on foot by a Bil in the Excheqer Chamber ; Wherein it was evidentlie shewed , and in a fair and solemn hearing made to appear , That such a Tithe as was before-mentioned , was du to the Rector of Rederith ; as also it was discovered , ( which Mr. Noy then but a yong Lawyer , pleading in my behalf , so cleared , that all the Barons ▪ to the Lord Treasurer , reqiring their opinion therein , attested that he was in the right ) that the Doctor , my Predecessor , had miscarried in his suit by joining issu amiss , and the judgment therefore given against him , nothing concerned us , our plea being on a divers ground . Upon the cause thus heard , a Decree was passed , to put me in Possession of the Tithe upon the Rents of Houses , as in other the Neighbor Parishes it had been , was then , and is stil paid . Howbeit , when it came to be demanded , some being willing to pay , and some refusing , to prevent further suits , that might after arise , it was by mutual consent on both sides agreed , that the business should be referred to certain Arbitrators on either side chosen , and what was by them concluded , should by a new Decree in the same Court be confirmed ; which was accordinglie done , and an Agreement so made and ratified , that in lieu of Tith on Houses , Fortie pounds should be paid me yeerlie by Ten pounds a qarter , to be assessed upon the wealthier sort of Inhabitants , the poorer people being spared , and to be gathered by the Church-Wardens for the time being , and by them qarterlie paid in to me . Which yet for the most part came short more or less everie qarter , as by my Receipts may appear . And this , when fullie paid , added to the former , was the greatest sum that I yeerlie received all the time of mine Incumbencie ; which yet comes nothing near to that , which this mans slanderous tongue says I receiv . And I may trulie and boldlie avow it , That during all the time of mine abode in this place , what in maintainance of my Familie , ( nor was either my self or anie of mine ever noted for excess , either in daintiness of fare , or in costliness of attire ) in affording a competencie to an able Assistant for me in the Work of my Ministerie , ( whereof three of eminent parts have within these few yeers , not long one after another deceased , and some other yet survive ) and ●o a yong Scholar to write out divers things for me , whereof some lie stil by me , and some are abroad ; in enlarging of my House , which was somewhat scantie , ( but is now verie neer as large again as I found it , as may be guessed by the number of Chimneys in it , which were no more than four , when I came to it , the Doctor making onelie a Summer-House of it , and ar now no less then twelv ) for the more convenient lodging of mine Assistant and Scribe , and a Student one or two , such of our own Countrey as had left the Universitie , and were fitting themselvs for the Ministerie ; or Strangers , that from forain parts came over , to learn our Language , and observ our Method of Teaching , ( whereof I was seldom without some , and might have had more , had my House been more capacious ) and gaining a room of more capacitie for the bestowing of my Librarie ; in reparations of my dwelling House , and the Wharf before it , which was no smal charge ; in furnishing of my self with Books , which to a Scholar and Minister at as the tools of his trade ; in releif of the poor , wherein I shall spare to speak what I added voluntarilie in a constant cours ( besides what upon emergent occasions ) unto that I was assessed ; in these and the like put together , with what went to the higher Powers , Civil and Ecclesiastical , as before ; I spent , Communibus annis , one yeer with another , all that ever I received in right of my Rectorie , as by proof sufficient I could make to appear . Yet neither did I want opportunitie to have enlarged and advanced my Means , while I abode here ; no more then I did , before I came hither . I had not sat manie yeers here , when Dr. Featlie coming to abide in the Archbishops House at Lambeth , offered me in way of exchange for this , a place of far greater value then it , tho more remote , because mine nearer at hand ; To whom I made answer , That here I was fixed , and desired not removal , and that the vicinitie of it to the place of my Nativitie , made me the rather to affect it . That which I shal add , is a matter of no great moment ; yet men covetouslie-minded , ar readie to catch at , and lay hold on ought that may seem anie way advantagious , that may bring in gain , tho never so smal , and add ought to the heap ; they ar wont to have that of the old Epik oft in their mouths , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , That light gains makes heavie purses . From Dr. Winnith , Dean of Pauls , by Mr. Cooper of Thomas Apostles , his Allie , was the Lecture at Pauls offered me upon Dr. Days leaving it , it being but on the week day , and for the Term time onelie ; and I could , if need were , name the man , who having two Pastoral charges in the Citie , yet had not refused it , but undertook it , and held it to his dying day ; but my Answer was , That I found work enough at home for my weakness to wield wel : And he found me ▪ verie weak indeed at his access to me ; but it was in the long Summer Vacation ; and he doubted not , but I might recover strength enough ere the Lecture was to begin ; but I to waived it . Nor did I want means of attaining further preferment by the favor of Bishop Mountagu , Master formerlie of the Colledge whereof I had been Fellow ; who also , when I visited him now and then , being become our Diocesan , would ask me , why I came not about some place of preferment , supposing as he said , my means here not to be great , and that I lived in an obscure corner . And I remember , that being called over by the Lord Cheif Justice of the Common Pleas , to whom , as before was said , I had some relation , lying then very sick , and reqested to stay a Sabbath day with him , I heard at the publike Assemblie in the forepart of the day , Dr. Donne one of my Successors at Lincolns-Inn , then lately preferred to the Deanrie of Pauls ; When after my return from the Sermon , his Lordship having demanded of me whom I had heard ? you see , said he ; how some of your Successors rise , and why do not you seek for some Prebend at least ? which he supposed might be with no great difficultie attained , withal intimating a forwardnes stil to be imployed on anie occasion in that kind , whensoever opportunitie were offered , as wel as while I was at Lincolns-Inn with them ; Unto whom I sincerelie and seriouslie then professed , that might I but qietly hold and enjoy what in the place of my present abode I had , I could , and ( as I supposed ) did live , as comfortablie and contentedlie , if not more , then most , not of the Prebends or Deans onlie , but of the Bishops also , even the Archbishop himself not excepted . And trulie what the Heathen man sometime , speaking in his Heathenish stile and tone , said , Dii bene fecerunt , inopem me , qodque pusilli Finxerunt animi . the same with some smal alteration may I say of my selfe , that I acknowledge it oft as a favour of God , animi angusti atque pusilli qod fecerit , that he was pleased to frame me , not of an haughtie , bold , cut-stretching , and selfe-confiding spirit ; but of a low , bashful , streitned , self-diffiding , and in some sort pusillanimous disposition ; For I suppose that this my native frame hath been a means ( God so disposing it ) to keep me from such undertakings , as might bring with them grievous inconveniences , and expose to sore temptations , which otherwise I might have been subject unto , and peradventure foiled with ; and which the lower I kept , and the les I looked after great matters , the les was I endangered to be assalted with , and to fal by , as I observed in my time not a few to have done , to their scandal some , to their utter overthrow others ; while their very raising proved their ruine . Upon which consideration , neither did I ever make , or desire to make anie further use , either of the Bishop my constant friend's favor , save to keep my self and mine Assistants free from such undu molestations , as Ministers in those times were subject unto ; or of that my deservedlie much honored Patrons power , either while he was Atturney General , or Lord Cheif Justice , save for the procuring of the qiet enjoyment of a few Tenements in Rederith , purchased with some moneys which I had in marriage with my wife , being therein disturbed by a busie fellow , as also divers others of my neighbors were , who groundleslie sought to find flaws in our estates , and drew monie from other of them ; and for the restoring of me to my libertie , and free use of my Ministerie , ( when for a short time I had been imprisoned in the Fleet , whence , in the Kings absence I was released by the Right Honorable Earl of Manchester then President of the Privie Councel , through the mediation of S●r Charls Montagu , Brother both to him and the Bishop then decessed ; and afterward by his Majesties special command for a longer time confined to my house , and so restrained from my Pastoral employment , in reference to an Epistle , or Preface prefixed to Mr. Eltons Catechism published after his decesse , in which busines others far greater then my self , even the Archbishop himself , were aimed at ) which yet by his intervention with some great ones near about his Majesty , was effected in my behalf . It is commonlie said of such as are greedie of the world , that they desire to gripe more then they ar wel able to grasp , and are readie to undertake more then they ar able to undergo , or to go thorough with . And men of aspiring minds and spirits , ar wont to be over forward , either to obtrude themselvs into , when they cannot otherwise be compassed , or to imbrace . when they ar tendred to them by others , such places as ar of respect and repute , albeit they find and know themselvs altogether unfit and unable to discharge them . Yea , it is observed by a grave Autor , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , that each one usuallie , is the first and greatest flatterer of himself ; & that other folks flatteries could never fasten upon men , if men did not in the first place flatter themselvs , and were willing therefore to be flattered by others . Yea , so far doth th●s desire of repute , above truth or desert , prevail with persons so affected , that other mens votes and opinions of them , either fawninglie fained to sooth them up in their vain fancies and fond conceipts of themselvs , or reallie and sincerelie , according to their apprehensions and opinions , but erroneous and groundles , concerning them and their endowments , conceived and expressed do so bewitch them & work them to such an over-weening & over-valewing of themselvs that they deem themselvs worthy of , and fit for anie place or employment of reputation and credit , tho their wants and weaknesses wel weighed might easilie inform them the contrarie . Had I therfore been either covetouslie affected , or ambitiouslie minded , I would never have resused ( as conscious to my genius its aversnes to , and spirits unfitnes for such a place , I did ) the Hedship of one of the principal Colledges in that Vniversitie , whereof I was sometime a Member , being as it is wel known , while I sat in the Assemblie at Westminster , both freely offered , and designed me by that Noble Earl of Manchester , who had then the disposal of such places there in his power , and eagerlie with much importunitie urged by divers of my Reverend Brethren of the Assemblie , and the Heds of other Houses , ( which some of them yet surviving ar able to testifie ) to accept of it , alledging , when I pretended mine unfitnes for such a place and imployment , that of my abilities and fitnes for it others must judge ; It being a place both for repute and Revenew so far beyond this that I here held , and being put to my choise , whether I would leav this for that , or keep this stil with that , as some others then did , and so yet do ; ( and that one among others , who preacheth against taking of Tithes , as one mark of a fals Teacher , when yet he either exacts , or at least receiveth Tithes himself , and against Vniversities remanding them back to the pit of darknes from whence they came ( saith he ) at first , when as himself holds the Hedship of a Colledge in the Universitie , and receivs the maintenance belonging to it . ) Yea , my self sometime perswaded one of those that succeeded me , advising therein with me , upon some important considerations , as I conceived them , to do that which my self yet refused , and durst not do . To draw this long Discours then to a brief sum , by what hath hitherto been related , it may easilie appear , how far I have been from giving anie just ground for Lilie or anie other to charge me with , or suspect me of , a mind covetouslie affected , or ambitiouslie disposed , either by oft flitting from place to place , or by taking and holding divers places together , ( which either yet in some cases , I doubt not , but a man lawfullie may do ) or by exacting with extremitie , what hath been du to me . Whereof further yet more anon . But my mind , it seems , is altred with my yeers ; and I am grown more gripple and covetous , at least , in mine old age , then formerlie I have been ; And it is tru indeed , that Avarice is commonlie deemed , Morbus 〈…〉 senum proprius , The peculiar vice of old age . And the Philosopher therefore makes it one of the Characters of Old Men , that they ar 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , illiberal and close-fisted ; yea , the Old Man in the Scene confesseth as much , Ad omnia alia aetate sapimus rectius : Solum unum hoc vitium affert senectus hominibus , Attentiores sumus ad rem omnes qam sat est . For other matters men by age grow wiser ; but this one vice old age brings with it , that it makes men generallie more worldlie then is meet . It is reported by Ammian , that Julian the Emperor was wont to say , Fiscus ut lien , That the Excheqer in the State , was as the Spleen in the Bodie : When it grew great , the main Bodie grew less . And some other , tho I remember not who , have said of pride , Fast us ut lien , fastus ut fiscus , Pride in the Mind , is as the Excheqer in the State , as the Spleen in the Bodie . When other Vices ar decayed , then Pride useth to get head ; yea , it feeds upon , and gains growth by the decay of other Vices . But what they say of Pride , the same others of Avarice ; hither drawing that of the Apostle , where he compares this evil affection to a root , Qia ut radix hyeme vim succumque retinet , cum reliqae plantarum partes vigorem viroremque amiserint , saith that learned Scot : Because , as the root in Winter retains its sap and force , when the other parts of the plant have lost all their wonted vigor and verdure : So this vice in old age , which the Ancients call 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Hyemem vitae , the Winter of mans life , retains its force and strength , when other vices become more invalid and less vigorous . For , as the same Autor wel , Libidinis ignis paulatim extinguitur , & cum senectute consenescit : At avaritia augescit continu● , & cum senectute juvenescit , qando vitia senescunt reliqa . The heat of lustfulness abates by degrees , and waxeth old with old age ; whereas Avarice is stil growing , as some say of the Crocodile , and in old age is yong and lustie : Et in frigidis senibus vehementius inardescit ; Yea , in cold old-men burns hottest , saith Austin ; And when prosuseness and loosness cease , then this corruption of covetousness begins to creep in . So that , howsoever it be a thing contrarie to reason , saith that famous Orator , Qo minus viae , eo plus viatici , For a man to encomber himself with larger provisions , the less way he hath to go ; And a strange madness , saith that Ancient Father , for a man to be then most eager of scraping and gathering goods together , when he is soonest to leav them ; and to endeavor with most travel to lay on load , when he is neerest to his journeys end . Yet , it seems , this mad follie and unreasonable affection hath , among manie other , surprised and seized on Mr. G. that like those of whom Plutarch speaks , who ar of the mind , That unless they add dailie to the heap of what alreadie they have , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , they shall want meat to feed them while they live , and money to bu●y them when they ar dead : So he , tho he be , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , in vespera vitae , in the evening of his life ; yea , as Empedocles , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , ad occasum , at the verie Sun-set ; 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , Pedem alterum in capulo , or as we use to speak , In sepulcro , habens , And have one foot in the Coffin , or in the Grave alreadie ; yet as the Proverb hath it of the Athenians , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , Atheniensis moriens porrigit manum , An Athenian can put out his hand to take money , even when he lies adying : So ( it seems ) is it with him ; he is now grown more gripple and greedie of the world then ever . For whereas heretofore , when he did most , and had most , he neither reqired , nor received more then an hundred and fortie pounds yeerlie ; now the old covetous Churl , when he hath willing lie silenced himself from Preaching , he exacteth and receiveth Two hundred pounds per annum from his people , and yet preacheth not at all for it . For so this lying Sycophant most untrulie affirms . Where first a word or two concerning my wilful silencing my self , after that of my Receipts . It is wel known that in the yeer 1643. I was called to sit in the Assemblie of Divines , and others of either House at Westminster . Where notwithstanding the remoteness of my place , for above two yeers and upward , I attended as constantlie as anie other of the Assemblie ; and yet neglected not therefore my Pastoral employment , but preached stil constantlie everie Lords day , save when some of my Reverend Brethren and Colleages did now and then , yet not freqentlie , afford me some help . For which my attendance , albeit some of the Antinominan partie buzzed it into the ears of my people , that I received an hundred pound a yeer ; and by Ordinance of Parliament indeed we were to receiv each one of us Four shillings a day ; yet I never either demanded a pennie , nor when I was sometime a Committee , and in the Chair , for the distribution of such sums of money , as they came in , did I ever set apart , or cause to be set apart , anie part thereof for my self ; regarding the indigence of some who had been either plundred , or driven from their places ; and the just claim of others , who upon good ground reqired as of right du to them , a proportionable share in the moneys brought in ; nor did I ever receiv of what was by others unsought to assigned me , so much as half the charge of my Boat-hire ( setting aside other expences ) amounted unto . From this employment I came home , arrested with a sharp fit of the Wind-Colick , the violence whereof , after grievous and tedious pains undergone , and not suddenlie removed , so loosed and weakned the whole frame of my feeble bodie , that it constrained me to keep Bed for a long time together . After which extream weakness , when I had recovered so much strength , as but to sit up a little , by some cold taken , I fel back into such a deep and dangerous relapse , as made my recoverie verie doubtful , not to my friends alone , but even to the Physicians themselvs . This affixed me for a longer space of time , then before , to my Bed ; mured me up a far longer time in my Chamber , and confined me yet a far longer time to my House . And this , I suppose , was no willing or wilful silencing of my self . Howbeit , so soon as I had gotten anie degree of strength , and was able to creep or craul out to the Publick Assemblie ( of my own people , I mean ; for unto that at Westminster , I was never able to return ) I returned to my wonted cours of Teaching , and therein continued for some good space of time , until by intention of speech a vein opening in my Lungs caused such a flux of blood , as that , when it could not otherwise be staid , I was constrained by advice to open a vein elswhere ; which double expence of blood could not but exceedinglie weaken one of my yeers , never of anie strong constitution , and by a foregoing maladie brought so low as I la 〈…〉 been . Notwithstanding , after that I had for some few months forborn preaching , supposing that all in my Lungs was now perfectlie closed up and healed , I betook my self afresh again to my wonted imployment , and persisted therein , until either the former or some other vein in the same part , reserated the second time , and with more violence disgorging it self then before , I was enforced to have recours to the former remedie again ; but found it a work of more difficultie now by that cours ( albeit a double qantitie almost of blood to what before , was then drawn from me ) and other means adjoyned thereunto , to effect a restraint , and repress the efflux , then formerlie it had been . And I was then told by the Physician , that I must whollie forbear Preaching , unles I would wilfullie make away myself ; and this is the wilful or unwilling silencing of my self from Preaching . Which howsoever I therefore forbear , that I may not thereby make my self guiltie of self-murther ; yet do I not whollie neglect my Pastoral employments , so far as with safetie I may perform anie ( for this voidance of blood doth at times stil surprize me , tho not with such vehemency , as at those other times it did ) in Administration of the Sacraments with such short Collations as ar suitable to the present occasion , in Visitation of the sick , and other like Offices , as abilitie serveth , and my weaknes wil permit . Yea but , When I preach not at all , yet I exact , or at least receiv from my people Two hundred pounds a yeer . Suppose that being now unable to preach , and take those pains with my people that formerlie I had done , I should yet admit from them , some good portion of that which I did formerly receiv ; especiallie at mine own charge providing and procuring some able persons to perform what is reqisite to be done , but am not able to do my self ; ( that which I have been careful of ever since this infirmitie hath held me , so far as in me lay so to do ) suppose , I say , I should so do , I am of the mind , that no ingenuous people would deem it a thing unjust or uneqal , or could upon any eqitable ground denie it to one , that had spent himself and his strength among them , and upon them ; so long as God was pleased to continu abilitie to him . Sure I am that by Gods own Ordinance and appointment , the sons of Levi , who had undergone the service of the Tabernacle , until they were fiftie yeers old , should then , growing in yeers , be discharged of a great part of their wonted service ; and yet were not then to lose their livelihood , or their part in the Tithes and other annual allowances to that Tribe and Function assigned , albeit they did no toilsom work for it . But whether I reqire it or no , certain it is that I receiv it , and that it is no less then two hundred a yeer . Belike , tho I be not so gripple to exact or reqire it ; ( and where is the old Churls covetousnes then ? ) yet my people ar now grown on a sudden so wonderful open-hearted and open-handed , as to bring or send at least in to me more by much then ever at anie time they afforded me . And Qis nisi mentis inops oblatum respuat ? what a follie were it for me to refuse and return it ? what a discourtesie had it been not to receiv and accept so large , or lavish rather , a courtesie , so freely and profufelie tendered ? As upon my refual of that Place in the Universitie before-mentioned , which was then conferted on a worthie Brother far fitter for it then my self , whom to the great loss not of that Colledge alone , but of the whole Universitie , and the no less grief of al his wel-affected Brethren of the Ministerie , unto whom his worth and parts were known , the Lord hath latelie taken from us ; when upon the publication thereof in the Assemblie , he out of his ingenuous modestie stood up , and made an Apologie for himself , that he had not sought for the place , as I verilie beleiv he had not , and by the partie that published it to clear him therein , it was averred , that if that Reverend Father ( so was he pleased to stile me ) that sat over against him , had not refused it ; he had not been thought upon for it . As I say , an ancient Doctor now decessed , said then to me , as we went out of the Assemblie , I would my Lord of Manchester would have graced me with the refusal of the Mastership of Trinitie Colledge ; as intimating that he would also have refused it , as I did : so say I here , I would my people would have graced not me with the refusal of so great a sum ( which I am wel assured I should never have-received ) but graced themselvs with the free tender of so much as was du to me , or so much at least as would have amounted to that which he received from me , who officiated for me , to try whether , or how far forth I should have accepted of it , or received their free offer . But this on a liers , Lilies word , I should say , they that list may beleiv . What I receiv is soon-known ; for it comes not to me by manie hands , nor need I fear , or be loath to have it known what it is ; I receiv qarterlie , for all the Tithes of the grounds , Seventeen pound ten shillings , and for all my Gleab , five pounds ten shillings ; which all put together , wil not make up One hundred a yeer . For as for Tithe-rent for houses formerlie paid , I have for divers yeers past not receiv'd one pennie , nor ought in lieu of it ; the pretence of the most is , that I admit not all promiscuouslie to the Lords Table , but according to Ordinance of Parliament in that behalf enacted , nor as yet , that I know , repealed , reqire of those , whom I admit , some account of their Faith , but of neither sort , the one or the other do I in this kind receiv ought , tho recoverable in the Court of Excheqer . Now out of the sum above specified , which I receiv quarterlie , do I constantlie issu thirteen , and sometime fourteen pound a qarter unto him that performs those Offices for me , which with safetie my self cannot . Whereunto when there shal be added , what in right of my Rectorie I part with in Tenths and Taxes to the State , Assesments for the poor , with other like necessarie payments , wherein I stand as deeplie charged , as if I enjoyed the whole , and as when I received most ; it will easilie appear how smala portion or poor a pittance rather , of what I receiv , comes into mine own purs . So that I may wel saie of my Rectorie , as Luther sometime of Free-wil , it is Titulus sine re . I hold a bare Title of a Rectorie ; a sorrie pittance of ought that may fitlie bear that name . But why do you retain the Title then , may some say , if you reap no more benefit by it ? I Answer , It is much against my mind , as not a few wel know . I have a long time been desirous to devest my self of it : I made divers yeers since my mind known to my people , concerning my not willingness onelie , but ernest desire , in regard of mine imbecillitie , to resign it , and reqested them to take some speedie cours for the bringing in of a faithful and able Pastor , under whose Ministerie my self might live comfortablie together with them . One was nominated by the partie , who bears the Title of Patron . Some exceptions were taken against him , and I ernestlie pressed to retain the Title , til such an one might be had as was generallie approved . I growing daylie as more weaklie , so more wearie of the Charge , have since that time again , and that some good space of time since , caused it to be motioned to the partie , in whom the right of Presenting is deemed to rest , that if he would nominate anie one that should for Life and Abilities be approved of by the Classis whereof I am an useles Member , or by any three of them , I would , upon their approbation signified , readilie resign ; But of any such I could never yet hear from him . I am now put in hope that another way the burden may be wholie taken off from my shoulders , and one of better Abilities placed in my room ; the day whereof I long to see , as that which wil be a day of libertie , and much ease of mind to me . Thus having , I hope , to anie , not totallie closed , or wilfullie winking eie , evidentlie discovered , the notorious untruth and vanitie , of those slanderous calumnies , that this lying Varlet hath endevored to fasten upon me , That I was sometime a Prelate . That I preached then for Sabbath Sports : That I have willinglie silenced my self from Preaching . That I receive Two hundred pounds by the yeer , tho I preach not for it . I shal from henceforth willinglie silence my self from dealing anie further with him , and leav him to his Father and Master , with whom he dealeth , and whose work he doth , even to him who was the first coyner of lies , and is the Father of Lyars , to receiv his Childs Portion from him , together with them ( among whom he seems ambitious of a principal place ) who by their forging and loving of lies , shew manifestlie of what Stock they ar descended , and what House they belong unto . I shal onelie add , for further manifestation , not of his virulent and slanderons language onelie , but of his malicious and mischievous mind , that he may shew himself to be a right . Schollar , and a genuine Child of him , that was not a Lyar onely , bu● a Murtherer from the beginning , what he hath in the close of his Februarie Observations , where these words ar found . The Common Law neer this time , or the practical part thereof , seems somewhat curbed ; — whilst malicious Presbyterie , without a general Massacre , never wil. And yet further to shew the extent of this his murtherous mind to reach not the Presbyterie alone , but the whole bodie of the Ministrie , and his longing desire , impatient of delay , to have some such bloodie and barbarous design , or hellish project put in execution out of hand , as in his last yeers close he complained of them in these terms , We are eternallie plagued with a mutinous and self-seeking Clergie , whose avarice hath no bounds , or pride anie limits . So thus now he concludes his Mayes Observations , The Saint-seeming Divine underhand undoes both People , Authoritie , Souldiers and Themselvs , by crawling , and creeping , and stealing Mens affections from the present Army and Government . Parlament of England , how long wilt thou susser these to reign ? Thus this gallant-spirited ( as he seems to account himself ) or rather murtherous-minded man ( as he may justlie and deservedlie be deemed ) like another Haman , who because stout Mordecay the Jew wil not bow to him , thought scorn to wreck his wrathful rage upon him alone , but would have the whole Nation of the Jews rooted out and destroyed ; so he , because T. G. a stiff-necked Presbyterian ( as he is pleased to stile him , and some other of the like strain ) wil not stoop to him , would have the whole Presbyterie , yea , and Ministrie to be murthered and massacred , and encites ( what in him lies , nor I hope wil he pretend without good warrant from the Book of Heaven , where in the Stars he finds it entred and engrossed , so to do ) either the Higher Powers ( for to the Parlament of England he cals for it ) like tyrannous Saul , or the rude and rash multitude and the Souldierie ( whom he says they undo ) like so many Edomitical Doegs , not to fal soul upon and murther some fourscore or thereabouts of Gods Priests in some one Citie , but to massacre & make away so manie hundreds of Christs Ministers dispersed through al parts of the land , as being such , as without a general massacre of them cannot be curbed . And I shal onelie propound it in sober sadnes to the sage and serious consideration of those Worthies who have the Rains of Government in their hands , whether such hellish Counsels and devi●lish Designs as these do conduce to the setling of peace in the Nation , or ar documents fit to be instilled into peoples , and Sword-mens minds ; or rather whether the publishing and divulging of such projects as found written and enrolled in the Celestial Records being permitted to pass without check or controle , may not prove in time , means of working much mischief , and of drawing down the wrath and vengeance of God upon the whole body of the State , Read Jer. 26. 15. and 2 Chron. 36. 16 , 17. An Advertisement concerning two Allegations in Lilies Postscript . HEre when I had laid aside my Pen , casting mine eye occasionallie on this Vatlets Postscript , I chanced to light in the Close of it , on the Allegations of two Autors in some respects not unlike himseif , the one writing in English , the other in Latin ; together with a task imposed by him upon me to English the latter ; which , though neither of them concern me in particular , yet for some considerations , I shall not stick to relate either , and at so kind a frends reqest , so far forth to gratifie him , as to English the latter , with a little overplus thereunto . The former Autor , one Cleavland , a man to me , either by sight or hearsay , toung , or pen , utterlie unknown , futher then his frend Lilie gives me notice here of him , in some Satyrical Libel ( it seems ) is pleased to term the late Assemblie at Westminster ( as he , who himself styles it a Synode of Presbyterians , as if it consisted of none but such , relates him ) A Flea-bitten Synode , An Assemblie brewed of Clarks , like Royston Crows , or Friers of both Orders , black and grey . The latter , left for me to English , is parcel of a Latin Epistle of one Carpenter , a man whose face I never saw , save in the Frontispice of one of his Books , of which also , save by this occasion , I never before saw leaf or line . Yet before I come to fulfil Mr. Lilies suit here , I shall not think much , or deem it much amisse , to entertain my Reader , with a Character of the Autor ; and that mostlie , or wholie rather , from his own words and works , relations and writings , which , till upon this occasion , having never before seen or sought after , I have now latelie in regard of this taske by his frend Lilie imposed upon me , made enquiry for , and after the sight thereof procured , have taken some pains to peruse . The man was somtime a Popish Priest ( so himself acknowledgeth ) of which sort we have had in these later times , Counterfeit Conveits not a few , who pretending conscience , as did that Arch-turncoat of Spalata , come over hither to do more mischief by lurking and working underhand among us here , then they could do by abiding further from us abroad , and such a one he confesseth himself , that some of his own kindred ( whom therefore he styles Jewish Presbyterians ) suspect him to be ; yea he complains of , or exclaims rather against one , ( whom he calls a man of pufpast , like that fat bellie-mountaind Bishop ) who lighting on one of his Works , said no more of it , but wrote onely upon it , Spalatensis . And for my part , I shall herein passe no other censure upon him , then what my Reverend Father in Law Mr. Charles Pinner , a man of a qick and piercing judgement , did sometime , after the reading of some of that Arch-dissemblers Pamphlets , when they came first abroad , and were generally entertaind with much applause , passe upon the Autor of them , That the man , so far as might be gathered from his writings , seemed not yet well washed from his Popish dregs . And the self same I conceiv may be as well said of this man , notwithstanding his washing of the Anabaptist over and over , that he is not yet wel washt from his Popish conceits and opinions . For in the same his Washing-bowl , wherein he washes and Barbs the Anabaptist , he sorrowfullie confesseth , that when he first came from the Papists , he was more fired on with passion , then drawn with Devotion . And in some of his first Sermons he made here afer his coming over , to insinuate himselfe into favor with Archbishop Lawd , ( who at first , as I have heard Dr. Low report , held him a loof off , and set light by him ) by a publick profession of his approbation and wel-liking of those Imnovations that he had here brought in , he professed ( as is avowed by persons of good credit , who themselvs then heard him ) that he found our Church at his return in a far better condition then when he left it ; and that no man religiouslie affected would refuse to bow to the Alter . Again in the fore mentioned work he informs his Reader , that in these our Western parts there are more ebbings and flowings , more sea-alterations & wave-motions of Religion , then elswhere ; and the Church of Rome holds Truth fast manie times when others wretchedlie betray it . And he doth , he saith , sincerelie confess , that even in that his Discours ( concerning Baptism ) he walks beyond ordinarie walkings , upon the grounds of the Church of Rome ; as indeed he doth , both in admitting a wide difference between the Baptism of John , and the Baptism of Christ , and the efficacie and effects of either , Ch. 30. As also in avowing infalliblie an infusion of Habitual Grace , and Perfection of Sanctification in Baptism of Infants , Chap. 18. 19 , 21 , 25. And both in coining such a character in Baptism imprinted on the soul as no Sacrament in the Old Testament had , Chap. 14. In stating the necessitie of Baptism unto Salvation , ne cessitate medii , Chap. 89. to which purpose also he alledgeth from a counterfait Justine , who concludes , as he saith , in the rebound , after much bandying of the business , that baptized Infants are saved , unbaptized Infants are not saved , leaving us to save our selvs as we can . Again , for unwritten Traditions , he telleth us , In verbo Sacerdotis Christiani , in the word of a Christian Priest , we must be Cabalists in some sense , and receiv with a plavdit , the distinction of Gods Word into written and unwritten . He wishes further , that when he came over , he could have transferred from Rome into England , and our Vniversities two precious Jewels , School-Divinitie , and Mystical-Divinitie . Of the former whereof , to wit , School-Divinitie , wherin al the Bodie of Popish , Erroneous , Superstitious , Prodigious , and Idolatrous Dictates and Doctrines ar couched & maintained , & which consists , for a great part of it , of fond , frivolous , and fruitles debates , whereof some himself toucheth in his Wash-bowl . For as for the sober , sounder , and useful part of School Lerning , our Universities want it not , and his wish therefore is herein needles , as the lerned Works of our Writers that deal in Controversies , do evidentlie shew ; albeit that in their English Practical and Didactical Discourses they discreetlie forbear to make use of it , because it is not so congruous to popular apprehensions . But of that Romish School-Divinitie , which he wishes derived from Rome into our Universities , he thus speaks , I folow the Discours of mine own heart , in the deep Tracts of School-Divinitie ( the Title of Doctor Profundus , belike , he may challenge ) the strength and marow whereof I find after long use to be superlativelie strong and useful , above the marrow and strength of Lions ; altho the crassipelles thick-skinned Preachers ( such ar all ours to this Dr. Subtilis , that he may have Scotus his title too ) dabling and wading in the shalow , think shalowlie of it . Of the latter , to wit , The spiritual Magazine of Mystical Divinitie , as he termeth it , thus ; The defect hereof hath rendred the leaders of these wretched and leaden people ( thus he reckons our Protestant people in comparison of the Papists ) wretchedlie deficient , and altogether sinking within themselvs . Where as hereby they might have made better and stronger use of their strong ( or strange rather ) imaginations ( meer humane fancies ) as the mystical Divines have taught ; Such , to wit , as plaie and sport themselvs with Gods sacred Oracles , and exercise their wanton wits , in writhing and wrigling them to and fro , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , like some Puppets , or Engins , artificiallie framed , that with screws and devices may be turned into what shapes and figures men lust ; That which he , and some other of his strain , yea , to manie of our Novellists among us to freqentlie practise , and whereof in these his writings he hath given such absurd , immodest , irreligious and ridiculous Paterns and Instances , as were sufficient to make anie modest , religious , ingenuous , or judicious persons to loath and abhor it : Not unlike herein to that great French-man , a man otherwise of eminent parts , who commending to Scholars and Students this kind of studie , propounds withal for a Sample such a piece of a fantastical Jew , as would make anie pious Christian mans stomak to rise within him at the reading of it . But of such stuff we have to much among us alreadie ; which even the soberer sort of Popish Writers themselvs mislike ; and we are wel content it rest where it is , wishing it rather exiled wholie from us , and the monopolie of it confirmed and confined unto those of the Romish Synagog . Add hereunto his Popish reckoning of the seven Hed-sins , and his Frierlie conceit , in a ridiculous application of Christs several seven bleedings for the cure of them . Also his pleading for the setled and immoveable Font for the baptizing of Infants , which the Presbyterians , he saith , have brought to a moveable and unsettled Puedish . But will ye see him treading more exactlie in the steps of that more eminent mount ain-bellied ( as he cals him ) Proteus or Vertumnus , to whom his Censurer he saith , compared him , and to whom for bulk of bodie and bellie he vicissim compares that Censurer of him ? where he makes his confession , as he would do it he saith , and it were upon his death-bed ; I most heartilie denie ( saith he ) and defie , renounce , abhor and protest against , the presumption , pride , and avarice of Popes , their Nephews and Cardinals ; the deceitful dealing of Priests , Jesuits , Moncks and Friers ; and against all other Doctrines , that bear the tru mark and hecceitie of corruption . Would not Spalatensis think we qestionles , Yea , Cardinal Bellarmine , or Baronius himself , have said as much ? and much more , what there follows ? For immediatlie in the verie next words , he spends a whole page and more in a transcendent commendation of the Papists , for their faithful conservation of the Sacred Articles of Catholick and Apostolick Doctrine , their wel-ordered Zeal , admirable and most ravishing Devotions , Deiform Intentions , Heroical acts of Vertu , Fastings , Prayings , Recollections , Meditations , Introversions , Aspirations , Humiliations , Mortifications , Abnegations of themselves , &c. As if all tru Zeal , sound Devotion , and sincere Pietie , or the highest strains thereof at least , were wholie cloistered up in the Popish Monasteries among their Votaries ( of whose Acts with us what they were Bales two whole Books may shew , and what they ar , and have been elswhere , the testimonies of their own Writers , in Illyricus his Catalog , and Wolfs Memoralia , may sufficientlie enform ) or were to be found in the Romish Church , if not alone , yet in a far greater eminencie then in anie other . All which things , he saith , he doth most humblie embrace , receiv , approv , with all his soul , heart , and spirit ; and he wil never beleiv that the Tree ( to wit , the Church of Rome , and its Superstitious Orders of Moncks and Friers ) is corrupted in the Root , Heart , and Substance , which brings forth such heavenlie fruits . For as for what he solemnlie professeth elswhere , that he bleeds in his spirit , and is ashamed of his companie ( as if we belyed the Papists ) when he hears such things asserted in Pulpits by persons non infimae Classis , as he saith , are fancie-formed pictures , and antick shapes , falling foul with his cleer knowledge : Those he instances in , ar some of them too tru , as that Papists beleiv to be saved by their own Merits , which do in truth exclude Christs ; that the Common people among them pray most commonlie in a language they understand not ; that all ordinarie Papists ( tho the all is in likelyhood an addition of his own ) worship Images as their gods ( yet himself elswhere confesseth that their great Doctors , Thom. of Aqine & Bellarmine resolv , that Christs Image , and the Crucifix , may be adored with worship du to God alone ; and that the ignorant Spaniards , men and women , yong and old , and of all sizes counted their old worm-eaten Images , their Countrey gods . ) Some ar credible enough , as that the Pope should dispense with Priests and Jesuits to r●cant and joyn with the Ministers of England , to reduce Protestants the more convenientlie to his Religion ; which may the rather be beleived of those who ar not ignorant of their Doctrine of Eqivocation , and their hellish Practices of Devilish Designs , either personallie acted or approved and extolled by them , as himself elswhere acknowledgeth . And how can he clearlie out of his knowledge , as he saith , cleer the Pope in this particular ? to which hed might be referred , what elswhere he saith runs among the people for a truth , that there ar or were latelie Jesuits in our Armie , that preached there ; which report himself , who knows Popish affairs , motions and contrivements in a large measure , and in holie Truth more then manie think him to know , ( the truth whereof we shal , without putting him to his corporal Oath , easilie beleiv ) and then some would have him to know , doth faithfullie beleiv to be the most malicious , and most damnable fals invention of the seething-scalding-burning-fier-hot-hearted Genevensis . ( For now he is in his Ruf. ) Lastlie , others of them may wel be deemed Fittons of his own framing , as that , to let others pass , that comes in last , to bring up the rereward , that no Professors of chastitie live chastlie among them ; and that all of that Religion ar bloodilie minded . Of both which , howsoever experience and proof have upon publike Records left evidence sufficient , not to run out far abroad , in Queen Maries daies here , and of later time in Ireland , to prov the truth concerning an over-great partie of them , yet is it not probable that anie of note would in so general terms avow . He confesseth indeed , as infalliblie certain , that there ar corruptions among Papists both of Doctrine and Manners ; and scandals consequentlie ensuing . But this he puts off with a necessitie of scandals in all Churches , and no Angelical perfection to be expected in anie . And as Spalatensis sometime used to distinguish between the Court of Rome , and the Church of Rome : So he would have the world , he saith , to understand , that he now understands the difference between the Doctrines , which pride and private interest have publiklie raised in the Church of Rome , and which ar not destructiv of its being a Church ; ( as the sins and errors of the Pharisees destroyed not the Chair of Moses ; ) and the Doctrine of the Church of Rome lineallie descended from Apostolical Antiqitie , or included virtuallie in their seed and root . And where he prosesseth faithfullie to render an account of his Faith ; He subjoyns at the close of it , hitherto I have said nothing but what a knowing Papist wil saie . And therefore our Pulpits , and the ears of our people have been abused by the devils Janizaries . But wil you further see , how he would enforce upon us a necessitie of repairing to Rome for the sure founding of our Faith ? There is another work of his , wherein that Confession of his Faith is contained ; but which I know not how to term , nor himself , it seems , wel neither . For not unlike to that Riddle of Panarceus , related by Athenaeus out of Clearchus his book of Riddles , and enlarged by H. Stevens , and some others , concerning a blinking Eunuch , who spying a Flittermous hanging on a Ferula , or Fennel ▪ giant , as some term it , threw at it with a Pumice , but missed it . 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . A man no man , seeing and not seeing , a bird no bird , sitting and not sitting , on a tree no tree , threw at it and threw not at it , with a stone no stone . He accordinglie intitles , this his partlie English , partlie Latine Discours , A Sermon and no Sermon , preached and not preached , in a Church and not a Church , to a people and not a people ; wherein his first Alarm to his Brethren of the Presbyterie , being his Brethren and not his Brethren . But in this Rhapsodie , give it what name you or himself shal please , he hath by piece-meal , with divers interlocutions in English to his Plebeian Auditorie , given out a Discours or Debate , of a great difficultie , which he saith , forsooth , he delivers in Latine , because he had a secret to tel the Scholar in his ear , the main scope whereof in the first place bendeth it self unto this , that our English Translation of the Bible cannot afford a meer English man anie good ground to build his Faith upon . This the rather to bring about , he scoffs first at the work , which he termeth in plain English , a dispirited Translation , then he fals foul on those Reverend , pious , and lerned Ministers of Gods Word employed in it , of whom he passeth this verdict , Personas qibus spiritum divinum , ne dicam affingere , sed non audemus affigere , qorumque filios ex lu●o vario & versatili conflatos videmus , & ad omnia paratos pro mutata rerum facie . I give you his own words , and will leav them to himself to English . Onelie thus much English anie weak Grammar Scholar may pick out of them , that the persons made use of in that Translation , were such as we cannot so much as fain , much less dare to affirm , that they had the Spirit of God in them ; and that by their children ( as he terms , hem ) we may see , what they were , to wit , men made up of such clay as might be easilie moulded and wrought into anie shape whatsoever , as being readie to admit anie new impression , as the state and face of the times and things shall alter and change . A wicked and wretched censure , most uncharitablie and unchristianlie passed upon persons of well-known piety , and approved integritie , and whose courses and cariages , divers of them have evidently evinced the contrarie ; and it may well be deemed , as him self saith elsewhere ( to return him his own words ) alios ex suo judicat ingenio , that by his own disposition he judgeth of them . But what is the cours then , that a meer English man must take for the sure grounding of his Faith ? yea not a meer English man onelie , but any lerned or unlerned , Pastor or People ; for that which he beats upon , and drives at as well in his English Discours as in his Latin Debate , concerneth as wel Teachers as people taught , and extendeth it self unto anie Translation , not our English alone , and Interpretation also whatsoever . It is this , a By adhering to a Church of sound learning , and sufficient autoritie , b such autoritie as may reasonablie put a stop to controversies ; c that he may be able , producing the autoritie of such a known Church , to lay his hand upon the Book , and say , This is the Original . And to this purpose he professeth d reverentlie to imbrace those Preachers , who are deeplie founded upon the sense and sentence of the Holie Ghost speaking by the Church ; and that the reason e why the Doctrine of the Fathers is deemed tru , ( not because found agreeable to Gods word , the rule whereby the Apostles were content to have their Doctrine tried ; but why then ? ) because it was the Doctrine of the tru Church , in which , and of which they were . Such a Church belike as neither did , nor could hold anie error . And he concludes therefore , in another of his Works , that when we have done what men can do , if the Interpreters of Scripture be not spirited with the same Spirit ( to wit , of Infallibilitie ) with which the Writers thereof were spirited , they shall never give spiritual and secure judgement , proportionablie to the Prophetical and Apostolical Spirit ; yea infalliblie ; if it be not moreover infalliblie known , that they are divinelie spirited ; they cannot inbreath into us such knowledg that shal qiet and allay our exasperated and troubled hearts ; and this the subtil Doctor Scotus binds with an infallible reason ; No man perfectly and firmlie beleivs him ( let him be Interpreter of the words or sense ) of whom he knows he can deceiv , or be deceived , in such things , as having no securitie of Direction from the gracious and manifest promise of God. Now what doth all this drive to , but that no man , learned or unlearned , can have anie firm ground whereon to fix his faith , but by recours and adherence to a Church , that is , infalliblie known to be generallie infallible ? And what Church he must of necessity mean and intend , I shall not need to tell anie , that knows ought in the Controversies between Rome and us . For the truth is , no particular Church since the Apostles dayes , nay nor in their time , save as it was from time to time , directed and informed by some one of them surviving , either ever had , or ever did or durst ( that appears ) lay claim to , anie such priviledge of a general Infallibilitie ; the presumptuous and groundless challenge of the Modern Romish Church , by virtu forsooth of the Popes late introduced Autoritie , onelie excepted . And what this Design then drives to , anie one that hath but half an ey may easilie disery . Yea but the Difficultie ( he saith ) was never before propounded that he ever found or heard , by anie Church or person in such manner , and making such an assault , as he doth here . That he hath indeed herein exceeded all other Writers , for ought I know , even the Papists themselves , I shall readilie condescend unto him . For howsoever the Romanists and Popish Doctors hold , that the Pope , some of them , a General Council , other of them , cannot erre in determining ought concerning matter of Faith or Life ; yet none of them , that I ever read or heard of , affirm that either Church or Pope can Infalliblie determine , wheresoever there are anie various readings in the Hebrew , or Greek Text , or wheresoever anie word in either is ambiguous , neither making anie material or momentous difference , which is the right reading , or ●hich the genuine sense of the word , which yet Degree of Infallibilitie this ●an necessarilie reqires , as that without which no firm footing or sure ground for our Faith can be found . Yea but his Will-strong Objector , he saith , sayes , that the proposal of his Difficultie induceth to Atheism ; and this contradicts what I here say , and others , it seems before me have said ; for if it put to the Church of Rome , how induceth it to Atheism , which denies both God and Church ? Sir , I make no doubt , but that manie Points and Practises in Poperie , when the absurdity of them comes to be discovered , and the end discried , for which they were at first introduced , and are still stiflie maintained , induce millions unto Atheism . For example , When people shall be told , that the Pope for the time being , is Christs Vicar General to rule and govern the whole Christian Church , and that there is no certain and infallible way of determining doubts in the Christian Religion but by recours unto him ; and shall withal consider , what maner of creatures manie of the Popes themselvs have been ; will it not , think we , indeed , instead of pulling to Rome , ( which yet is the main drift of it ) push rather to Atheism , to hear or read it consequentlie maintained , that insanus juvenis , a mad Lad , not above eighteen yeer old at most such as Baronius reports John the twelfth to have been ; yea p●er fermè decennis , a boy of about ten , as Rhodolphus Glaber of Benet the ninth ; or one that lives so loosly and lewdlie , that he is not undeservedlie deemed , if not to denie , yet at the least and best , not to believ those two main Articles of the Creed , the Resurrection of the dead , and Life eternal , as Bellarmine himself acknowledgeth of John the 23. or one that accounts and calls the Story of the Gospel , Fabulam Christi , a Tale of Christ ( as Jerome that piece of Apocrypha , Fabulam Tobiae , the Tale of Tobias ) which of Leo the 10. Bale testifies ; to be the Supreme Judge of all Controversies in the Church , and his Dictates such as are to be received by the whole Christian World , as undoubtedlie tru , and unfalliblie right , in all things concerning either Faith or Life ? and of divers other Popish Tenets and Practises , as of Transubstantiation , the Popes Indulgences , and Dispensations , &c. the like may be averred . But to answer you in few words : That which tends to the utter subversion of mens faith , by endeavouring to introduce an utter uncertaintie of that which is the onelie sure ground of their faith , without such a help as is no where to be had , doth it not pave a plain and prone path unto Atheism ? But so doth that which you here propose , beyond in some sort , as your self confess , what anie Romanist ever did . For to make men , not sillie people onelie , but even the lernedst of them , utterly uncertain of the genuine sense of Scripture , and Gods Oracles more ambiguous then Apollo Loxias dark Riddles , and Heraclitus 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 his Dictates were ; you tell us that they are conceived in such an obscure manner , that they are referta Mysteriis omnifariam eventilatis , & in incertum cadentibus , aliisque velut Aenigmatibus infinitis , qae Lectores in diversa rapiant atque solicitent Argumentis aeqo pondere libratis , full fraught with Mysteries , blown out every way , or into all shapes , and falling out altogether uncertainlie , as also with infinit Riddles , that solicite and draw the Reader divers ways with arguments of eqal weight on either side , and so leav him in suspence , as if the whole Book of God were made up of such intricacies ; as also that they are penned in such a Language , in qâ puncta varia , & in variis codicibus alia atqe alia , sensusqe radicum multiplices & in omnia propendentes , qae vel doctissimis undiqe tenebras offundere nemini uspiam docto dubium est , wherein the points are various , and the words pointed one way in one book , and another way in others , and the roots , or primitive words of so manie several significations , that of themselvs they incline to have anie thing made of them , by reason whereof , even the most lerned are encompassed with darkness on everie side , that which no lerned man anie where can make doubt of . And therefore forsooth no man lerned or unlerned can have anie sure footing for their faith , unless they can find out , or light on such a partie of whom they may have assurance , that he or they can cleer all those infinit mysteries , and assoil all those obscure Riddles , and certainly settle all those varieties , and determine all those differences , by an undoubted pointing of the words first , and then limiting each of them to his tru and proper sense there so read , and unless they be also firmlie ascertained concerning such a partie , that he or they cannot be deceived in anie of these particulars , nor will deceive him therein . Which when it shall be discovered to be a matter of meer impossibilitie , is not this a readie course to make people warp towards Atheism ? for doth he not herein the v●rie same work , that he saith the grand Plot-master of Hell doth , labor to make holie Scripture a leaden rule , appliable to all things ? or can the Grand Plot-●ster of Hell frame an Instrument more efficacious , to induce men to Atheism , then by working mens minds to a perswasion of an utter uncertaintie of anie word of God at all , But he saith , that as the Church of Rome hath enforced alike Difficultie , so have the greatest and most conspicuous Independents amongst us reinforced the verie same with the same Church . What Independents they are that enforce this difficulty in the verie same manner that the Church of Rome doth , I know not . But who ever they be , if anie such be , if they enforce it as he doth , they take a readie course to destroy the faith of their followers , by enforcing upon them such a ground for their faith as is no where to be had . If as the Church of Rome doth , thereby to inferre a necessitie of repairing to them out of all qarters of the world , for a sound and final resolution of all their doubts in Religion ( for so the Romanists enforce it ) they shall in so doing ( to give them the Autors own words ) having given a Bill of divorce to one Pope , beyond the Seas , enstal and enthrone a goodlie numbe of Popelings , and young little Muf●ies , at home . But of this let them consider whom it concerns . This Discourse , or Debate , he saith indeed , he delivered purposelie in Latin , because he would not dissolv the soul-harmonie of weak persons . But there is enough in his English , wherein also the main substance of it is , to do mischief more then enough , not indeed with any understanding , well-grounded , and judicious persons , but with people of weak brains , unsetled minds , loos affections , dispositions inclinable either to Papism , or Atheism , whereof through the unsetledness of our state , and the licentiousness of the times , too manie have of late been , and are still , in most places among us . He professeth indeed freelie and more then summis labiis , to invite an Answerer ; let him come , saith he . But in his Postscript he reqires that the Answer be returned in Latin. First , Because ( he saith ) he wil not enter the lists with anie but Scholars . Secondlie , Because he wil not be Sea-bounded , and judged in his future Discours by an Island . None , it seems , in this poor Iland ar of abilitie or sufficiencie to judge of his writings ; they ar so feeble , miserablie defective , and shalowbraind , for want of his Scholastical and Mystical Divinitie , which he wishes he could have brought over with him , wherewith to improve them . But why did he not then publish his former Debate by it self , that it might sodainly have flowen over-sea , but give it out by morsels and mamocks , either in the Pulpit , or by the Press or both amidst the intervals of a large English Discours ? And in the next place he fals to threatning of him that shal oppose him . If the Adversarie , saith he , shal be obstinate ( as they must be deemed all , that meddle with ought of his ) let him know , that my Pen shal not spend Ink hereafter but in the Latin language . And withal , I promise , saith he , my Reader , that I wil not onelie endevor to satisfie him in the present matter , but I wil dress the matter in warm Language . Withal subjoyning a long addition of vain boasting what rare and precious stuff he wil therein entertain his Reader with . Now in part of this denunciation he hath much failed ; in part , if I mistake him not , he hath not at all failed to make his word good ; For whereas an Answer in Latin to his Latin difficultie hath been tendred unto him , as himself acknowledgeth ; which he might , if he had so pleased , have replied unto in Latin , and so published it together with his former Latine Debate extracted out of his former Work : he hath returned onelie some few parcels or patches in Latin , dispersed and dis-jected like Absirtus his limbs , all put together not making up four whole pages at most , inserted into an English Work consisting of Pages upward of 450. Wherein also he is so far from giving anie real satisfaction to his Reader , that he doth not so much as afford him his Answerers own words in the language reqired ; onelie picks out some curtailed Objections , as he termeth them , framed as himself pleaseth , and delivered in English , and without the Arguments to back them annexed , and after a little sorie stuff sub-joyned , turns over the rest , with a Caetera omnia ut aberrantia à scopo & assument amera rejicio , and so lets them go . But sure , had he desired , as he pretended , to have the Debate of his Difficultie flie so speedilie beyond sea , he would never have clogged it with such a weight of our leaden language ( the best term that he can afford our English Protestant people ) so far exceeding the whole bulk of its Latin bodie , annexed to it , and made up with it , as was like to confine it to our English Iland ▪ and so impede and impeach its further progres and passage . Howbeit , in some part of his promise , to wit , in his warm language , as he terms it , he is large enough , he is not at all wanting . For altho the Answer be framed in a modest manner , without anie broad or uncivil language , his Replie , which he tels him he shal find interspersed in that large Discours , is dressed and pickled indeed both in the English and in the Latin , with great store , and more then good , of sqibs and scofs , his best Logik and cheifest Rhetorik , such as a Pr●sta , puer , muscarium ; Boy , reach the fly-flap , and calling his Answerer b Sublicium caput , a Logger-hed . His Answer c a famous tinckling of words , a sound ●mpiie of soundnes , which he bids him therefore d cease , as a poor Apothecarie to set out to shew , like vain and empty pots and coffers . The original of his mistake ( as he terms it ) e defluxionem per Caput vermiculans in Narem crassam obtusamque , A defluxion from his nittie Hed , into his snottie Nose , ( for so in plain English it sounds ) : And besides much more stuf of the same stamp , having prefaced somewhat of f an ambidextrons Trick or Design on foot in these tumbling times , of divers persons in the same familie adhering some to one partie and some to another ; That which is reserved for the last as the worst , that he is g an extract of Presbyterie from a stif-hearted and refractorie Presbyterian : And what is the Presbyterie , or the Design he prates of , to his Difficultie , or the Debate of it ? But this is he that lays this Law on his Answerer , h Facessat omnis impexus , illotus , inqinatusque sermo , Away with all undecent , unwashed and defiled langage , Yea , to affright his Opponent from dealing further with him , he tels his Reader , that if he be called to unriddle his enigmatical expressions , and to produce a concealed description , which he hath in sinu● , he will , and he shal , and he must laugh , if he be not plane 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , one that cannot laugh at all . But let him according to his own proposal , publish apart from his English Discours , his Difficultie as it is in Latin conceived , together with the Answer to it in Latin entire , and his own Latin Replie as it is here , thereunto ; and it may be , as Erasmus reports of one whom Frier Robert de Lycio had laid a wager with , that he would in a Sermon with his Oratorie draw tears from him ; how he confessed indeed that he wept , but it was out of meer pittie , to consider that one of his parts should be so vain and loose of life as he was : So his Reader may smile at least to see the mans vain confidence , in supposing he had given anie good satisfaction in the matter debated , by such a Replie ; and it may be such a Rejoinder may ensu thereupon , as without scurrillous sqibs and scofs to move laughter , or excursions into such by-matters as concern not the present debate , may lay forth the insufficiencie of his Replie , and shuffling aside as impertinent , such passages as concerned him to have replied unto ; which how it may affect the Reader , I shal spare to speak or to presage . Meane while , for satisfaction of his difficultie , I shall refer him to himself , in those ten Reasons , Notes , and Marks , sufficientlie arguing for Scripture , as it came first from God , as himself confesseth in that very Work , or Sermon , if it were a Sermon ( to go no further ) wherein it was by him at first propounded . All which ar as evident , and as conspicuous , as wel in the the English and Latin , or anie other Translation , as in the Origiginal either Greek or Hebrew , and may conseqentlie convince a man of its divine Authoritie for the subject Matter , whereon our Faith is grounded , without anie such exqisite skil as he speaks of either in the Greek or Hebrew , in which latter verie few of the Ancient Fathers , either of the Eastern or Western Churches , whose Works ar yet extant , had anie great skil . And the Reader , for further and fuller satisfaction in the same Subject , I shal refer to that Religious , Laborious , and Judicions Servant of God Mr. Richard Baxter , in the Second Part of that his large , pious , accurate and useful Work , entituled , The Saints Eternal Rest . Yea , but to stop the mouths of all those , that charge him with Poperie , he saith , that to say A man may be joyned in communion or union with the Church of Rome , and yet preach here as a Minister , is a mostfals alarum , and the mad belowing of Enthusiastical , and fanatical persons , answerable to Presbyterian ignorance . He that wil joyn with Rome , must unroost here . But Sir , howsoever you ar pleased to esteem us Presbyterians as a dul companie of sillie Ignoramusses , yet ar we not as yet so brutish or blockish , but , that taught even by Experience , the mistries of Fools , we have lerned and found it too tru to our cost , that manie , in these latter times especiallie , exercising their Ministerie among us ( whereof one of late not far from me ) have yet by their Doctrine and Practise shewed evidentlie enough , which way their hearts and affections inclined , and accordinglie , when they either were unroosted , being put beside their places , or had feathered their nests , and saw their time , have slipt away and shipt hence , betaking themselvs thither , where their heart was before ; whereof some also not meeting with what there they expected , have returned over again hither to work more mischief here . Yea , was not this Spalatensis his case ? did he not exercise his Ministerie here in preaching and administring the Sacrament , to an Italian Auditorie , and with an Italian Congregation , as also in preaching divers times at Court , and that against some points of Poperie ? labouring the whilst underhand to reconcile Rome and us , not by drawing them to us , but by withdrawing and writhing us neerer to them ; yea did he not roust among us a long time on a rich Deanrie , a fair Mastership , and for ought I know , on a fat Parsonage , which falling vacant in the gift of the Dean and Chapter of Winsor , he attempted at least to ●eise upon , and howsoever Dr. White therein opposed him , telling him , that there were four sorts of men that undertook Pastoral charges , quorum pascere qidam nec volunt , n●c valent ; qidam valent , sed non volunt ; qidam volunt , sed non valent , qidam & valent & volunt ; some that neither would nor could discharge them ; some that could , but would not ; some that would , but could not ; some that both would and could ; that in neither of the two first he would rank his Lordship , he doubted not of his good-will ; in the last he could not ; in the third he must needs , for our people were English , in which language , he could not speak to them ; yet he answered the Doctor , he would do as he , and some other of them did , substitute one that should do it . Whether he carried it , or no , I cannot say , but having long continued his disguise , though not so cunninglie , but that at sometimes , and in divers things , by persons intelligent , it was easilie discried ; at length , when he saw his Cofers well crammed , and the way for his return cleered by the decesse of one Pope his back-frend , and entrance of another , who had been sometime his familiar acquaintance , and having got leav with his bag and baggage to be gone , he then pluckt off his Visard , laid his Mask as●de , and apparentlie discovered , especiallie so soon as he was got over to the other side , what in heart he had formerlie been , while 〈…〉 e lay lurking , like a Snake fostred in the bosome , or V●per enclosed and nourished in the body and bellie of our Church . And thus much shall suffice for the discovery of his good affection to Rome , and endevor to press a necessitie of adhering to some such Church as they profess theirs to be , howsoever he profess that he is no Papist . For whereas he saith it is most fals , which some have charged upon him , that he is reconciled to his Popish Priesthood ; It may well consist with ought here related , there may need no reconcilement , if having brought it over with him , as an indelible character , he still retain it , as it seemeth he makes account , that he did , and doth ; when by vertu , thereof , he braggeth that he hath power to disposses , and drive out devils , and cure strange diseases . For to this purpose toward the close of his Sermon no Sermon ; he tels his Hearers , that , Did the Witch cleav to them , or the Devil actuallie possess them ; some strange disease assalt them beyond the Physician , some lamness forsaken by the Surgeon cripple them ; he might produce , not a Simon Magus with his Characters , or an Apollonius , &c. but a poor Charactered man , to do something for them in the Name of Christ , which is not according to Gods ordinarie course . Of which his vain pretension , and his freqent vaunts thereof being by letters minded and admonished , he returns this Answer , The Charactered man you speak of , gives God the glorie of those Trials of his Character , which you contemn . And what Character is it , that pretends and professes to have such extraordinarie power and faculties annexed unto it , but the Character of a Popish Priest ? which therefore he acknowledgeth still to retain , tho he will not be so termed . Hence also it is , that howsoever he grant that manie Papists have misled Scripture in their inconsiderate labouring to prov the single life of the Priests to be of Divine Command ; as also that some Priests were maried in the Ancient Greek Church , and the first Mariages of such persons were allowable in that Church ; Yet that himself being a member of the Western Clergie , hath experimentallie foundlittle outward , and less inward comfort in Mariage . In which words whether he do not manifestly intimate himself to be a member of the Clergy of that western Church , which inhibites her Clergie-men mariage ( that is in plainer English , a Romish or Popish Priest ) and is therefore scrupled in his conscience concerning his Mariage , I shall leav it to anie man of understanding to judge . Again , albeit he protest solemnly in the sight of God , that he is no Jesuit , nor ever was ; and that his heart is , and ever was extremely averted from the practises of pragmatical Jesuits , and that he de fies , renounces , and abhors all the deceitful dealings of Jesuits . Yet am I well assured , that he cannot free himself from the just charge of practising Jesuitical tricks , in sending out his Emissaries , who ( according to the Proverb in common use wi●h the Arabes , Qi afferunt ad te ▪ auferunt â te , they that bring tales to thee , carrie tales from thee ) to underfeel and undermine men , repair to them with counterfeit errands ( which he denies not to have procured to be done ) and return back from them fained answers , and falsreports , unlesse they have been coine● , or forged rather by himself , and then fathered upon them . He writes himself Rich. Carpenter Independent . And yet , against the Brethren of the Scotch Mist , as he styles them , i that with such a noise exalt the perfection of their paritie , he maintains a Dependencie and subordination : as also he professes to k Believ ( he hopes ) with divine Faith , that Episcopacie is de jure Divino , and that l Bishops were instituted by Christ himself , and m had sublime Thrones , erected in Churches by Primitive Institution ; as also n that there is a strong necessitie of such ; and * the Church of God being a well-ordered Army , is uncapable of a general paritie . Yea herein he runs on , or out rather , so far , as to avow that , in that saying of Jerome , o Ubi non sacerdos , non est Ecclesia ; Where there is no Priest , there is no Church , by a Priest is most certainlie understood a Bishop . Thus this miles gloriosus , like a second Pyrgopolinices , hath with one blast of his breath unchurched , and blown away , all the Protestant Churches in France , the Netherlands , Geneva , and their Associates , together with all the Congregations , whether Dependent or Independent , both in Old and New England , Scotland , and Ireland . And observ we here the mans extream partialitie , All the abuses and abominations , blasphemous and Prodigious Doctrines , Superstitoius and Idolatrous practises , tho obstinately retained and maintained in the Romish Synagog and in a General Convention of their chief Clergy-men by the Popes Autoritie assembled , and held , the most of them confirmed , with an Anathema to all those that shall dare to impugn or oppose anie of them , ar not of force sufficient to unchurch her , as this her Advocate avers , whereas the bare want of a Bishop is with him sufficient to unchurch all those famous and faithful Churches of Christ , and Congregations of Gods people . And either he must be a Member still , and a Priest of the Church of Rome , by his own grounds and grants , or else , for ought I see , of no Church at all . Mean while , if we demand of him why he styles himself Independent , as his frend Lilie saith concerning his assuming the Title of Merline , that he hopes anie man may name himself as he pleaseth ; so makes he also in part answer , that whereas Hereticks and Schismaticks give him names at their pleasure , he presumes that he may have leav to name himself by what Name or Title he shall desire to be modestlie called ; but with all , telleth his Reader , That the chief Doctrines that he proposeth , he will defend to have been formerlie defended and proposed by the most lerned Divines in England , and now to be recommended to the people by the most popular Independents . Thus then according to this Autors own Riddle of his Sermon no Sermon , may be said of himself , that he is Papist , and no Papist ; a Protestant , and yet not a Protestant ; a Popish Priest , and no Popish Priest ; Jesuitical , and not Jesuitical ; Independent , and not Independent ; that which in some sense he saith of himself , an Amphibious animal , or a Chimera , made up partlie of Papism , partlie of Protestantism , and partlie of Independencie . In two things especiallie he is just of the same stamp and temper with his frend Lilie , who hath good cause therefore to like him the better ; And it was reported abroad that he had received money of Lilie to write in defence of him against my former Vindication ; which being told him by a frend of mine , occasionallie meeting him in the street , he acknowledged that he had been indeed lately with Lilie , who had spoken to him his pleasure of me , but that he was resolved not to write in defence of him , because he knew his practise to be condemned in divers Councels , whose autoritie he regarged more then anie privat mans opinion . But howsoever behind Lilies back he give in his verdict thus against him , which peradventure he wil not do to his face , yet in some things he and Lilie so exactlie resemble either other , that were their parentage uncertain , and were by conjecture to be gathered from their similitude of disposition and demeanure , they might well be deemed , like Pla●tus his Menechmi , to be gemini germani , two twins of one birth , or at least , fratres uterini , both births of one bellie . The one good qalitie , wherein they ar so like either to other , is , that the manner of them both is rather to rail and revile , then by arguing and reasoning to refel and refute : The other is , their extream malice and rage against the Presbyterian partie , the Genevan Discipline , and Calvin by name ; both which may easilie appear of this latter ( for of the other enough hath been said and shewed alreadie , both in this , and in a former Discours ) as well by that parcel of stuff , that his frend Lilie here presents us with , as by other passages also abundantlie , yea luxuriantlie , in other his writings elsewhere . It is a rule in the School , that Amor est odio prior , & odium ex amore oritur , that Love ever goeth before hatred , and all hatred springs from Love. Therefore do wicked men hate God and his Law , because they love themselvs and their corruptions , which God by his Law doth cross , controle , and endevor to courb ; and it is by a grave Writer well observed , that men are many times eager against some , whom they either deem , or would have deemed delinqents , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , rather out of self-love , then anie hatred of evil , because they stand in their way , or in their light , in regard of their ends and interests , or because they oppose and thwart them in some corrupt courses , that they are stronglie addicted to . And this seems to be the ground of this mans extream malice against the Presbyterian partie ; he pretends indeed to hate them , as Gods enemies ; but can he shew , wherein as Presbyterians they are such ? and in regard of such abominable actions as he knows by them , but he tels us not what they are ; but the main ground of the quarrel seems rather to be because some professed Presbyterians have assayed to discover some of his trains , or to deliver the matter in his own terms , because Presbyterians as Presbyterians , have ( as he dreems ) been hurtful , and injurious to him ; which what English to make of I know not well , unless his meaning be , that all the Presbyterians in the world have so delt with him ; for he is not ignorant of the Axiom , qod convenit tali qatenus tale , convenit omni tali ; and therefore his spleen is accordinglie such against them all in general . I remember to have read long since a saying in Jerome , tho in what work of his now I remember not ; and it comes the oftner to my mind , because I observ the practise of it so rife in affairs ▪ as well publike , as private . Multi eliguntur , ( and so praeferuntur ) non sui amore , sed alterius odio , Manie are chosen ( and so in choice preferred ) not so much out of love , or good affection to them , as out of hatred and dis-affection of some others , that stand either in opposition to them , or in competition with them . And just so is it with this man ; He professeth to hate Presbyterians and Anabaptists as Gods enemies , with a perfect hatred ; But the Presbyterians most especiallie , whom to depress therefore , and debase as much as possiblie may be , he cares not whom he sets up and prefers before them , Anabaptists , Schismatiks , Hereticks , and whom not ? Against the Anabaptists he writes most bitterlie ; and yet that he might not be deemed to cast them behind the Presbyterians , Altho , saith he , I bind up the Anabaptists into this heterodox fardle , yet I engage my self to make it shine as the Sun , that manie Anabaptists are the propugners and maintainers of manie excellent and divine truths , and are more justifiable before God , and more sufferable with man , then Presbyterians and strict Calvinists . Again , of Heterodox Sectaries , and Separatists thus ; Brethren , It burns in my bowels ▪ and I cannot hold it : Some called Separatists , and they are so , and more then so , as separating from the Church , not in Communion onelie , but in Faith also , are better marowed , and more Evangelical , then these Pulpit Ignes fatui , foolish Fiers , then these Teachers ex argilla & luto conficti , of dirt and clay . And that you may not mistake him , or make doubt whom he means by these foolish flashes , and dirty Preachers , to let you know in plain terms , they are the Presbyterians and Calvinists , whose Doctrine he had in most odious manner traduced and exagitated before , he subjoyns immediatlie this scoffing passage , which may well go for a specimen of his mysterious Interpretation of Scripture . He that compares the Independents with the Presbyterians , compares the Nephilim , or Giants that made others to fall before them , with the Pygmey Archers on the Towres of Tyre . For the Presbyterian Archers have crawled up to the top of a little Tyre lerning ; but the Giants independing of Tyres and Towres are so well grounded , that the P●gmies dare not come down to them , and meet them on eaven ground , and the Independents may cry and hollow it up to the Pygmies on the tops of their Towres , that the Presbyterians at the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , of the Septuagint , Monsters divided between Men and Asses ; and the Satyres of the English Bible ; and might plead with reason , that these Asses have formerlie drunk up the Moon . Thus , to curry favor with the Independents , whom he would fain close with , he courts them . As for the Presbyterians , he can find no language foul , or broad enough to belch up against them , or spew out upon them ; whom therefore in both his Rabblements fraught with Ribaldrie he bedawbs and bespatters with these , and other the like Satyrical and scurrilous Titles , a Scotch Pharisees ; b Scotch Manichees ; c Scotch Barnacles ; d Scotch Balaks and Balaams with their speaking Asses ; e Brethren of the Scotch Mist ; f Jockey Preachers ; g Tincking-toned Presbyters ; h new-found Pulpit men , black Knights of the blew Bonnet , that would tuck up all powers under a Geneva girdle ; i Pulpit Petifoggers , Saint-mouthd things , in a brown , or blew covering , * low sqare Knights of the round Hoop ; k with a Montebank boldness , and tumbling devotion shewing tricks in a round Hoop ; l Pulpit Meteors ; m Jewish Cabalists ; n Kirk Sea-monsters ; o Hungrie Dogflies ; p Northern Locusts ; q home-spun Jesuits ; r the Devils Janisaries . Thus he , who reqires forsooth , as you heard before , of those that deal with him , to forbear , and banish all undecent , foul , and filthie language ; and yet would not have anie to be scandalized with these overgone , or overgrown expressions ( so himself terms them ) for so foul he saith , are these Presbyterians , that his tongu wants words , and colours to pencil them , and black is not black enough for them : Whom therefore he rejects as upstarts , and as the causes of Iliads of Ills , and Myriads of mischief . And of whom having first thus averred , not sparing to abuse Gods glorious name thereunto ; What abominable actions , notoriously opposite both to Justice and Purity , have both City and Country discovered to me in the lives of Presbyterian Ministers , and my toung never yet received an order from my heart to tell them ; the glorie of God thereafter may command a discoverie ; he thereupon addresseth himself unto them in these terms ; Go then , ye Presbyterian Ministers , with your lyes of Defence , lyes of Offence , whole lyes , half lyes , qarter lyes ; lyes with heds , but not with feet ; with feet , but not with heds ; lyes with neither hed nor feet ; lies that are all bellie ; short lyes , long lyes , lyes of a middle size ; lies whispered , and loud lyes ; lyes of any bredth , of any length , of any bigness , a ly that plays or sings the Tenor , a mean ly , and a base ly ; lys of all sorts , of all colors , of all fashions ; a ly , will ye buy ? lyes that still and ever ly , and never ly still . And is not this down-right ranting , and raving with a witness ? or is not the man , think we , not staring , but stark mad ? yea so far gone , that as much of the drug he prescribes to the Classical Asses , as all Anticyra is able to afford , will scarce bring him into his right wits again ? He tels us , that The violent motions of Spirit Jesuitical and Presbyterian cannot be of God. And whence , think we then , are these motions of the Spirit ? but to salv this , and save himself , he asks elsewhere , Is there not a godlie violence , and a religious vehe mencie ? But how little of God , or of Religion in all this , letanie say , that is trulie godlie , and sincerelie religious . Ad hereunto his Lucian-like Dream , how one in his sleep thought he saw the Presbyterian come dancing in a Mask with his Puedish in his hands , and our Gib Anabaptist as round as a hoop dancing to him , grapling with him , pulling it from him , and furiouslie dashing it against the ground : And the interpretation of the Dream , That the Presbyterians have stamped and hissed away the use and virtu of the Sacraments , and the Anabaptists have folowed them at the heels with a trip . Ad also , that absurd , immodest ; unsavorie and irreligious scof , wherein playing upon the word Kirk , not peculiar to the Scots , but common with them to the Dutch high and low , beside others , and framed from the Greek word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , Gods-house ; but he would have derived from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , a tail , and abusing the terms used in the Greek version of the sacred Hymn ; he saith of these black Knights of the blew Bonnet ( as you heard him before stile thhem ) that David gives a fair-foul Image of such Night-Ravens , Psal . 11. 2. when he saith , they shoot , as the Septuagint , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or as another would interpret it , in Scoticis tenebris , in the Scotch darknes of their souls . ( Is not this a most detestable abuse of Gods Oracles ? yet he adds ) He that wil please himself with this Northern point , may cheerfullie do it , and yet not over-act . For they creep out of their holes in the darkest night , and run here and there in great multitudes , like that living and busie dust on a Pismire-hil ; everie where carrying their Kirk behind them , that is , their 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , their uglie tail , which they wag and fawn upon the sillie dul-eyed people , that kn●w not a hed from a tail , with shaking the Kirk , the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of all Churches , which they would set over the Hed , even to the ruin of thousands . And this scurrilitie so pleased him , that he must needs have it up again afterward with a further absurd toy annexed to it , where he saith , The Scotch Imp in his Pulpit-fort drives furiouslie in the qest of gain , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a tail , which putteth me in mind of the Kirk , is allied n●erlie to 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 vain lucre . I remember , that while I lived in the Citie , there was one Hen●ch Clapham , that had been sometimes a Separatist at Amsterdam ; but afterwards coming over and pretending to be converted by Judge Anderson a professed enemie to all Puritans , became then as furious a Preacher and Writer against the Presbyterians as ever he had been against the Prelates before , as wel in the Pulpit , as in his Pamphlets ; whatsoever the subject matter was otherwise , just in the same manner as this man doth , ever anon scoffing and girding at them . And his scurrillous carriage in this kind growing so gross and unsufferable , that he came at last to be convented in the High Commission Court , B. King , when he was to pass his censure upon him , spake to this effect , that there were two sorts of people that justlie deserved a sharp and severe censure , the one was of those that brought the Pulpit upon the stage , the other of those that brought the Stage into the Pulpit ; and these latter ( in which rank he reckoned the partie then to be censured ) were well worthie of as deep a brand as the former . And trulie in either of these kinds , which the Bishop observed , Mr. Carpenter hath not failed to play his part . In the former when he was among the Papists and Jesuits abroad ; For so himself informs us , that when he made a Latin Play among the Jesuits , he acted the part of a Minister , and preached upon the stage ( telling us with all on what Text he preached ) moving excessive laughter at ●veri● word ; as also , that at Rome he composed a Play of a mixture of English and Latin ( such as his Sermon no Sermon is ) wherein he p●r●onated a Minister , much prophaning the words and phrases of holie Scripture : And again , that at Rome he acted the part of a Minister , a Chang●ling , a T●rk , and a Devil , all in one Comedie of his own composing ; whether the same with the former , or some other , he saith not . But thus ye see how he brought the Pulpit upon the stage , when he was among Papists . W●ll ye see how he brings the stage into the Pulpit , now he is among Protestants ? To what you had before , take further these few passages ; Search into your bosomes , O ye men of the Pulpit , ye Jockie Preachers . And , They should leav a● Peru the Monkeys , and Apes , with their bad faces of their own making , and the Parat with his vain Tautologies and Repetitions . Qam tandem haec , Tragoedia an Comoedia dicam , habitura est Catastrophen ? I cannot stay here , majora molior . Qasi aliud agens , as treating of holie things , and looking ( good Man , sweet Man● , heavenlie man ) an other way , or towards Heaven , he wounds the Superior Powers with collateral senses as with side-blows , and in everie Sermon , for penurie of sound matter , damps the void and aerie brains of the people with high reasons and businesses of State. Again , These New-found Pulpit-men , Black-Knights of the Blew-bonnet , well , feathered outwardlie , but Adamites in understanding hope devoutlie , that verie Atlas will run away , and the Heaven of Superioritie and Government , with all the Larks in the Aier , come down to them . And , They use the white Geneva Wand in their Hands , as Pallas doth in Homer , who makes wondrous sport with Ulysses a little man ; he is now smal , wrinkled ragged , and torn , and scarcely tru , but she having graciouslie touched him with her white Wand , he is now again tall , and of a goodlie favor and Personage . And now the gallant man hath hair of a violet , purple , or sky-color , and the verie same is a sin and no sin , as these trime Saints are ( it is their own sweet phrase ) conscientiouslie moved to teach that day . And the same Text and Sermon onelie new vampt are fitted for a new leg and walking , and stretched , as teeth , and all being put to them for the retriving of a contrarie purpose , with a little handling of the matter betwixt ; Verilie , even so it is , dear brethren , there is Scripture for it : And , Verilie , my dear brethren , Is it not so , there is Scripture to the contrarie , even the Scripture used formerlie by our Adversaries . And thus the miserable people , tho they hear contrarie sounds from their mouths , yet hearing still the same sound from their Noses , are themselves led by the Nose . Again , Telling me from a Pulpit in the air , to which I must look up , as if the Pulpit-men came even now from heaven , of Humilitie , &c. and bringing about at everie half turn , Our glorious God ( for so they call him ) Jesus Christ , the Saints , the Lord Jesus be with all your Spirits . And , to heap up no more of this trash , one passage more onelie , These wodden Preachers are as those useless fallings of the wood exercised with the Saw. Might I not just lie fire at them with a Sarcasm ? O sad and bad conclusion of their , Ah Lord , Dear Father , holy God , Father , of all their speaking good in the Scoth tone , and their praying God to do good to this people . O Images of wax , such as Witches make to mischievous ends , call ye this your improving your interest in Jesus Christ ? Lord help us ; Might I not righteouslie compare these men of Clouts with the religious Mountebank in Bromiardus , &c. for I am werie of transcribing , and so will my Readers , I doubt , be of reading so much of this ill-favored stuff , the reliqs , it may be of that scurrilous language that he used upon the Stage , when he personated there our Ministers , and from thence he now brings into the Pulpit . Sure had he ever seriouslie repented him of his acknowledged prophane abuse of Gods Word , and jeering his Ministers in so irreligious and atheistical a manner , as himself relates , he would never have let the reins loose to his tongue , to run out at randome again in the same kind , much less in the Pulpit . I was sometime saying , in regard of some passages , that this piece of his was not unlike to some of Oliver Maylards Postils . But the truth is , that both this his Sermon no Sermon , and that other his Washing Bowl , are no other then as Satyrae Menippeae , or some of Aristophanes his Comoedies with the Interlocutions , or as the Ludi Fescennini , in which they did è plaustro convicia fundere , full of girds , and sqibs , and scoffes , and jeers , and scurrilous expressions , and Satyrical excursions , as of one rather acting a part or varietie of parts and persons ( as he saith at Rome he sometime did ) upon a Stage , then seriouslie and religiouslie delivering Gods Oracles , and soberlie debating Matters of Faith , and such as concern Mans eternal welfare But to draw towards an end , of this unpleasing and unsavoury Subject . In the close of his First Alarm against the Presbyterians , or his Sermon no Sermon , inter alia , he thus subscribes it , By me Richard Carpenter , not a Papist , but a Protestant ; but not protesting against ought , that is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in anie Christian Church , wheresoever , or whatsoever ; who likewise utterlie disclaim , that I am or ever was , or will be , Jesuit from Rome , or from Geneva . As if Calvin , Farel , Viret , Beza , and their successors in the Ministerie and Church-Government at Geneva , were all no other then Jesuits , and not unfit to be ranked and ranged among , or yoked at least with Romish Jesuits . And as he concludes that his First Alarm against Presbyterians ; so begins he his Washing of the Anabaptist , which he might as well have intituled his Second Alarm against them . For in the Frontispiece of it , ( wherein he presents us with his own Portraiture ) he sets on the top of the Page , the Jesuit Lion-mouthed ; and close by him the Presbyterian Dragon-tounged ; for so himself expounds the figure . And again in an Advertisement , sub-joyned to the main bod●e of his Book , towards the latter end of it , to shew how implacablie he is disposed toward this Presbyterian partie , he thus defies them , and denounces War against them , still yoaking and conjoyning them with Jesuits ; I. R. C. Sacerdos summi Dei ( some second Melchisedek belike 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ●o styled ) denounce a holie , scholastical , literarie War , against all pragmatical Jesuits , and against all factious Geneva Jesuits . But his literarie War we need little to regard , especiallie considering what manner of weapons he fights with . There is one thing more that I shall adde , and there an end ; yea there would be an end , had these men ( his frend Lilie and he ) their wils , when they had made an end of us . For howsoever , of the ordinarie Anabaptists , he saith , tho he be sorie to say it , that they speak nothing but Fire and Halters , and Puniards to all that endevor to try them , and their opinions ; yet he being no man of bloud , he finds it checkerd in his Ordination , that he may not yeeld anie concurrence to the shedding of bloud ; And indeed in that Worthie Councel so much craked of for the Popes uncontrolable power , said to be held under Pope Sylvester at Rome , there is a Canon inhibiting anie Clerk to enter into anie Court , qia omnis curia à cruore est dicta ( and yet for all that they can find out ways and wiles enow thereby to shed blood in abundance , and so did when time was among us , notwithstanding their Ordination ) and he desires therefore only to have them fairlie convinced of their foul errors by Argument : Yet concerning the Presbyterians , that he may shew his concurrence in depth of malice with his frend Lilie against them ; as the one cals for a general massacre of them , so the other in his Sermon no Sermon , having spoken , as I have formerlie related , of the Church of Englands fourth and last issu , the poor and bare beggarlie Presbyter , left by his mother to shift for himself , he is so liberal to him as to beqeath him such a Legacie , as his good frend Lilie would be verie loath should be withheld from him ; I leav , saith he , these hungry Preachers ( his Picture indeed shews him to be none of those starvlings , but to be fat , and well fed ) as I found them , tearing all with their Kites feet , and Eagles claws , or as I have hunted them , untill I find them as the crafty Fox hung up in the Warren by the teeth , with self-industrie , among the ded vermin : So that had these men the sword in their power , and the halter in their hands , we might easilie deem what the Presbyterians doom and lot were like to be ; what he saith the Anabaptists speak , would too soon in likelihood be put in execution ; for how poor a curb the Popish Ordination is to keep men from being bloodie-hearted , and bloodie-handed , the examples of Gardiner , Bonner , and the main bodie of the Popish Clergie in those Marian times here among us ; as also of the late savage and prodigious butcheries and massacres exercised and executed in Ireland of late , wherein the Roman Clergie were prime both incendiaries and actors , will over-evidentlie evict . And might it not justlie make people to suspect , that there was some Munsterian business under-hand abrewing amongst us , when these two Associates , the one a Star-gazing Wizard , who pretends his Dictates to be taken out of the Celestial Records , and to be not so much uncertain Predictions asundoubted Prophesies , dares to call for a general massacre of the Presbytery , yea indeed of the Ministerie : And the other a Characterd Priest , a most bitter Traducer , and utter Renouncer of our Presbyters and Preachers , as no other , nor better then the Devils Ianisaries , less justifiable before God , and sufferable among men , then some of the worst sort of Separatists , and Sectaries , dares profess to expect to see what the former calls for , to be put in execution ? We want not those that preach , that no thorough Reformation can be , untill our present Ministerie be wholie removed , and the qickest and surest , tho the safest , I dare not say , way would be , not by throwing them al out , as some it may be have deemed , but by taking them all away in such manner as these men suggest and expect . For herein Lilie , and this his intimate friend concur and accord , that as Lilie , howsoever he pretend a disaffection to the Presbyterian partie onelie , yet his malice extends it self unto the main bodie of our Ministerie , nor can he so conceale it and keep it in , but that in some passages it hath broken out , and bewrayed what lay inwardlie smothered in his heart . In like manner is it with this man ; tho he set up the Presbyterie as a Mark or But at which to level and discharge his virulent shot , and envenomed shafts , yet his aims and intentions ar far wider and of larger extent , and do now and then discover themselvs , in glances at our Ministers and Preachers in general , such of them especiallie , as ar eager and zealous for sound pietie , and against Poperie ; that which as in divers other places , whereof some above mentioned , plainlie enough appears , so most palpablie toward the end of his Sermon no Sermon , where giving Directions to a Christian soul , what cours to take for its safetie , he useth these words , Say to the flesh , Thou art meer birdlime ; to the world , Go dirt ; to the Devil , I have too long been thy slave . Say to these Preachers , ye are ignavum pecus , a dul kind of cattle , ye have lerned a tumbling trick with the lip and tongue ; but for action , you know not the behavior of zeal , humilitie , charitie , or of anie tru virtu ; and I will rather ire ad genua praetereuntium , beg my bread of all others ( or as his Latin imports , at the knees of passengers , in the most abject manner by the high-way side ) then close with you . Thus as out of extream hatred to the Scotch Presbyterie , he solemnlie professeth , that whereas in the old Orders of Baptism , the Catechumenus did first publicklie make his Abrenunciation of the Devil and all his works , with his face turned towards the West : for me ( saith he , for ye shall have it in his own terms to a tittle ) I will speak it aloud , nec comprimam me , Be I fancied an Energumenus , Competens , Catechumenus , or Neophyte , or what men of low knowledge please to scribble me in their fancies ; I will utterlie renounce the Devil and all his works , while our most merciful God continues to me the commerce of breath betwixt the Air and this my mortal bodie , with my face turned toward the North. So here out of a parallel affection and disposition of heart and mind towards our Ministerie , he would have our Preachers by every Christian soul renounced and abandoned together with the Flesh , the World , and the Devil . How like Lilie to a hair ? So that as himself relates of one , that after the view of one of his Books , he said no more of it but onely wrote on it , Spalatensis ; so of these two , out of which most here hath been extracted , no more needs to be said , save to write upon either of them , Lilie . Thus having done somewhat more , I suppose , then M. Lilie looked for , and more it may be then he desired , more at least then he reqired ; I shall come at length to grant his bown , and to give my Reader in as good English as I may , what he out of Mr. Carpenter hath presented him with in Latin. The Epistle it self is at the latter end of his later Work. The Inscription of it , as Lilie gives it , To the Lunatik and Chimerical Classes , which term of Classis , he elswhere saith is a dismal and odious Name . In it ( as Mr. Lilie tells you ) he tells the Classical men , that they are fraud , a lye , emptiness , an Idol . Again , infected , unpolished Physicians , exact Asses , and Classical Asses ; and towards the end , taking his leav of them . You of the Calvinistical Sect , a Sect dissected , subsected , and resected ; I wish you together well in your wits , and your pates with Ellebore throughlie purged . Thus , have I fulfilled Mr. Lilies reqest , the rather that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , ex fimbria de text● , by those thrums and threds that he hath pickt and puld out of it , and by those snips and shreds , which as for paterns he hath pared of it , the Reader may judge of the whole piece , what manner of stuffe it is ; for it is in this regard eavenlie wrought , all the Epistle of the verie same tenor , à capite ad calcem , from the one end to the other ; whom also for the same purpose I have the more liberallie presented with some more then good store of his chips , that by them he may lern what kind of timber it is , whereof the main frame and fabrick of his out-works raised and reared against the Presbyterian partie doth consist . To conclude all ; I shall take the boldness in all Christian submission to address my self unto those Powers that are in highest Autoritie with us . Unto whom mine humble suit and earnest reqest shall be , that they would be pleased , not slightlie , but seriouslie and advisedlie to weigh and consider , whether it wil● stand with the Honor of the State , to suffer a solemn Assemblie called together for Advice in Ecclesiastical Affairs by the Parliament of England , when it was in its prime , and consisting not of such Ministers of the word onelie , as were by them well esteemed , but of divers choice members also , out of either House , as well that of Lords , as that of Commons , selected , to be termed , a Flea-bitten Synode , an Assemblie of Royston Crows , or Friers of both Orders , black and grey , by a base Varlet , that lives by cheating of people . For in qoting of it with approbation , he makes it his own . And as for the Autor of it , his Satyres ( it seems ) dance in the dark , as the Autor of Fur paedestinatus saith the Dancers , do at Geneva ; whereas this fellows Merlins Fly abroad in open day-light ; yea , if the father and breeder of them may be believed , flye out over sea , into all parts of the world , to the dishonouring of our Nation , by that ribaldrie , wherewith they are so full fraught , in all States and Churches ( those among the rest so notoriouslie traduced and abused in them ) whersoever they arrive . As also that it may be dulie and deeplie pondered , whether it be in like manner consistent with the Honor of our State , to suffer that Ecclesiastical Goverment , that was not onlie by the vote of the major part of that Assemblie recommended to the Parliament as agreeable to Gods word , and by joynt consent of both Houses so approved of , and setled in some places neerest at hand with us , and that before those exorbitant courses that of late have been charged upon them ; but that is also established in the Dutch and French Reformed Churches , and that of Geneva , with those other adjacent , and in joynt combination with it , and hath with allowance of publike Autoritie , even in the greatest height of Episcopacie , been exercised in those foreign Congregations among us ; and not so manie Reverend , painful , and faithful Ministers of Jesus Christ , and his Gospel , of our own onelie , but such also in foreign parts as the Lord hath so far forth vouchsafed to honor and grace , as to make them chief Instruments of demolishing the Kingdome of Antichrist , and of purging the Churches , both at home by their Ministerie , and elswhere abroad also by their savourie writings , and wholesome advice , and whose Names are precious in all godlie mens minds ; to suffer , I say , such Churches , such Church-government such Ministerie , such Ministers , to be so immodestlie , ignominiouslie , scurrilouslie , satyricallie , opprobriouslie , and contumeliouslie traduced , by a couple of I know not well what I should term them , scoffing Lucians , sure I may , a common Cheater the one , an amphibious , as in some sense he terms himself , an amphibolous ( I am sure at least ) creature , the other ; and , if I might presume so far , to have it at least thought upon , whether the Agents for those States and Churches that are thus notoriouslie abused , might not in justice and equitie reqire to have such scandalous writings pass the fire by the Hang-mans hand , and some kind of reparation for the wrong therein done them from the Autors of them , as being such slanderous traducers , and notorious abusers of their Ministers and Ministerie . But this with the whole Address I shall leav to the pious and prudent consideration of those whom it concerneth , therein to deal , as they shall desire to have their own good names preferved , and persons by God protected , for the procuring whereof one hopeful way may be , by the vindicating and righting of those Gods faitful servants that are wronged in either kind . POSTSCRIPT . WHile this Discours was at the Press , and almost wholie wrought of , I had notice given me that a Book of one of Lilies Complices was fresh from the Press come abroad , wherein somewhat was concerning me , and my dealing with Lilie . Desirous I was hereupon to see what it might be , and having got a sight thereof , I perceived by the Title , that it contained a short System of Astrologie , with a pretended examination of a Book of one Mr. Brain , written ( it seems ) against Judiciarie Astrologie , The Autor whereof is , I suppose , able to defend his own work . But to it I found prefixed an Epistle Dedicatorie thus superscribed : To the Reverend Father in Presbyterie , Mr. Thomas Gataker B. D. Jo. Gadburie dedicates these his Virgin labors . In this Epistle he professes to dedicate his Book to me for my better Information in the principles of their Art and Profession , referring me withal , if this give not satisfaction , to Mr. Lilies Introduction , from whom in vain still I reqire a proof of those principles . And in it seems all to anie purpose contained , that concerns me , being all , under two heds couched , to this effect : 1 That in my clumsie Annotation , and buzardlie Vindication , ( so he is pleased to array them ) I have much scurrilbus language , and horrid imprecations , against men whom I know not , as Wizards , Witches , dealers with the Devil , Hel-hounds , Sycophants , and a thousand more non-Gospel phrases ; Concerning which I shall refer the Reader to what I have written in those two pieces , not doubting but that upon the reading thereof , and this my last together with them , he will easilie be induced to let Lilie and Gadburie , what ever he be , to strive together for the Whetstone . For the particulars here recited . Tru it is , I term Lilie , Angel , and Behmen , Wizards , that is , I call a Spade a Spade ; their Writings , by which they are too well known , shewing them to be such , and from one of Lilies Advocates , who pronounces those of his Profession , that give out their Dictates , not as meer conjectures , but as matters of certainty , as Lilie doth his , to be no other then Magitians , that is in plain English , He-witches ; I conclude Lilie , if his Advocat speak tru , to be such ; of Lilies traducing Calvin , I say , that the snarlings of such Hel-hounds ( and what other 〈…〉 ar they , whose toungs are set on fire from hell ? Jam. 3. 6. for the Toung and the Pen are herein the same ; as Tertullian de Idolol . shews from that , Luke 1. 63. He wrote , saying ) can no more impair the splendent lustre of Calvins repute , then the yalping of maungie Whelps , or mungrel Curs , can the light of the Moon ; for his dealing with the Devil , to let pass what himself professes of Angels , with whom he hath dealing , and from whom he receivs Informations , which unless he fain onelie to gain credit to his practise , whether they be good , or bad ones , all that are not stark blind may soon discern ; for that and his sycophancie , what I say , and how justlie , his own Works that I deal with will sufficientlie discover and shew him to be , what Paul saith of Elymas , Act. 13. 10. and Christ of the Jews , Joh 8. 44. But for these things , I shall refer the Reader to my former Vindication , and to this latter Discours together with that , and in this more particularlie to Page 61. 2 The main matter , that this man thought to strike home with , is this , He gives me notice ( he saith ) of ashrewd slip in my Vindication ; and what is that ? In page 57. I say , that I made my abode in the house of a vertuous Gentlewoman , when I was young , whose Husband did , as I pretend , invite me thither to teach him Hebre 〈…〉 . And 't is tru , I say , that I abode sometime in house with a religious Gentlewoman ; and so I did , with one , a verie plain , sober , grave , modest Matron , a discreet Mother , diligent Nurs , and pious bringer up of manie children , as vertuous , religious , conscientious , humblie minded and demeaned a Gentlewoman , as I have ever in all my life been acqainted with . And it is likewise tru , that upon reqest made by the Gentleman her Husband to a grave Minister his neer neighbor riding over unto Cambridge , to make enqirie there for one , that might further him in his Hebrew , and instruct his familie in the Principles of Religion , I was by some of his acquaintance in St. Johns , where I yet then abode , at his motion , recommended to the Gentleman , and entertained by him thereupon to that purpose . And I shall the rather here digress a little , to relate both mine own employment in that familie , and the constant usage of that worthie Christian Gentlewoman , in regard of that vile calumnie , wherewith this wretched wretch ( for such he herein manifestlie discovers himself to be ) endevors , upon not so much as anie probable , or colourable ground , here to aspers us . At my first access to the familie , and entertainment there , beside my confereuces with the Gentleman at such times as he reqired ; I used to pray morning and evening with the familie , and in the morning to read withall some portion of Scripture ; and after some time , at the Gentlewomans motion , to spend so much time as could well be spared in explication of the Text , where anie difficultie occurred , raising of some few instructions , and making brief application thereof . In this manner within the short time of mine abode there , not much above a twelvmonth , I went over all the Epistles of the Apostles , the Prophesies of Esay , and a good part of the Book of Job , which practise so continned , both verie much improved mine own skill in the Tex● of Scripture , which I usuallie read out of the Originals , and gave much contentment ( beside the benefit accrewing to the rest of the Familie ) to the Gentleman and Gentlewoman ; to him , by giving him occasion after the Exercise over , to enqire of words and forms in the Originals , which he had usuallie at those times before him ; to her , whose constant w●nt was for some time in the day , to retire her self , and with her eldest daughter a young Gentlewoman , of a pious disposition , qick apprehension , and exceeding good memorie , to recollect , and ruminate between them on those things which had made up that morning their spiritual breakfast . And this cours she observed assiduouslie , till laid up suddenlie by sickness , and shortlie after translated to the place of her eternal rest and bliss . And so much concerning that pious soul , that precious Saint , whose principal joy and delight was in Gods word . That of Jerome , whether to L●t 〈◊〉 or Furia , or some other , now I remember not , A 〈…〉 Scripturas , & carnis vitia non amabis , was verified abundantlie in her . Her excellencies consisted not in anie outside of bodilie feature ( that might well be said of her in that regard , that Seneca sometime of a Philosopher of his acquaintance being a man of a werish bodie , Anima illius malè habitat , that her pretious soul had but a sorrie house to speak of to inhabit ) nor yet in external semblances , and affected flourishes ( far was she from anie hypocritical ostentation ) but in a gracious inside of sound and sincere pietie , the power whereof appeared in an eaven tenor of strict , discreet , and circumspect walking , with all meekness and mildness of spirit : In so much that even the Devil himself would never in all likelihood have had the face to raise such a foul surmise of her among those that knew her , as this impudent imp of his hath assayed here to fasten upon her , not having in likelihood had anie the least notice of her , being dead , it may be , long before he was in being . Yea but , saith this fellow , You that pretend to have been invited thither , to teach the Gentlem●n Hebrew , do yet in page 33. profess to have little skil therein your self . Tru , in regard of manie other , or of anie consummate and exqisite skill therein , I willinglie confess it . Upon occasion of Lilies telling me that I should ere long have an exposition of the Text in Jer. 10. 2. of one far surmounting me in the knowledge of the Oriental toungs ; my words are these ; Much skill in the Oriental toungs I never did , nor do profess ; a little smattering onelie in the Hebrew of the Bible I do acknowledge ; neither needs there anie great depth of skill in these Oriental languages for the expounding of that Text. And what I then had , was sufficient to afford the Gentleman such help and furtherance in that kind as himself reqired ; a proof whereof he was pleased to take , by reqesting me to read in English out of the Hebrew a Chapter of his own assignment , while he had his ey on Junius his Latin Version ; which I then did , and was able not long after my departure thence to my place in Sidney Colledge then consummated , to salute him with an Hebrew Epistle , therein inciting him by divers Arguments to proceed in that studie . Not doth it argu , that my skill in that language is now less then it was , because I now thus speak . It is an undoubted truth , in Divinitie , in Philosophie , in a● Arts and Sciences , that the greater progress a man makes in the knowledge of anie of them , the more he comes to discover his own ignorance in them , and how far he comes short of perfection therein . Hence that of the Apostle , 1 Co● . 8. 3. He that thinks he knows ought ( to wit , exactlie ) knows nothing yet , as he ought to know . And this minds me of a notable mistake among manie other , of a man otherwise of no smal lerning , who , whereas Plutarch in that his excellent Treatise concerning the marks and signs of Proficiencie , relateth a merie speech of one Menedemus , who said of those that repaired to that renowned School or Universitie of Athens , that they were at first 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 wise men , great wisards , then 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Philosophers , lovers of wisdom , desirous to lern it , after that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Rhetoricians , such as could talk of , and lastly , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 meer Idiots , stark fools , or ignorant ones at least ; that which he understood to be spoken , as if the Autors meaning were that , after their arrivival there , they were wont , as we use to say of a Cows tail , to grow downward , waxing daily wors , and further from wisdome the longer they staid there ; whereas his meaning was , that at first having gotten a little smatch of that Schoollerning , they vainlie deemed themselvs men of exqisite skill , but as they attained by degrees to a tru understanding of things ; and of themselvs , so they came further to discover withal their own wants and weaknesses , until at length with Agur , therein trulie wise , to acknowledge , that they were but as bruit beasts , and had not such wisdome as a man ought to have , Prov. 30. 2. But what of all this ? Suppose I had then but little skill in that language , or that little that I professed to have , had been less then it was ; what would this Sycophant ( let me be blamed , yea condemned as guiltie of that crime my self for so styling him , if his practise here do not cleerlie and loudlie proclaim it ) what I say , would this Sycophant hence collect ? will you hear hell it self belching out such stuff , as cannot exhale from anie other sink or sewer ? Were I , saith he , your Antagonist , I should make this construction , viz. seeing the contradiction in your words . In his own brains rather ; for in my words there is none . But what is the construction ? a devillish one indeed ; that your residence there , was not so much for the Gentlemans instruction , as for the vertuous Ladies , and your own satisfaction ; for sure I am , the unhallowed Priests are no more priviledged from the sin of lecherie , then the righteous Judah . See Gen. 38. And that his Reader might not conceiv that this had dropt from his Pen in ●ome sudden heat of passion , or in some merrie jesting fit , but that he is in sober sadness , and serious in the business , and might imagine therefore that somewhat in my Book had faln from me , that might afford good ground for some such suspicion at least , he sub-joyns , In 〈…〉 nest , what ever you had put in the room , you had better have kept this out . Concerning which , tho it be not much to the purpose , to intimate , that neither was the Gentlewoman ever a Ladie ( for it was manie yeers after her decess ere her Husband were Knighted ; whereby it appears that he speaks thus of one whom he knew not ) nor my self , either ever an unhallowed Priest , as he speaks , or then a consecrated Presbyter , one ( I mean ) solemnlie set apart to that ●acred function , when I came to that familie ( howsoever it be tru , that I had the Order of a Presbyter on my part unsought for , without suit or fee everie way freelie conferred upon me , ere I left it ) yet , that I may render to others an account of mine entrance into the Ministerie , as I have here before done of mine entrance into the places of my Ministerial employment , I shall take the boldness to detain my Reader a while with no long relation thereof , and then return to my Task again . The Right Reverend Dr. Stern , one neer of kin to this Gentlewoman , daughter to Mr. Stern a Gentleman of Melburn in Cambridgeshire , was at that time Suffragane of Colchester , and Pastor of a Parochial Congregation at Witteham in Essex , neer unto which place , at Braksteed , Mr. William Aylof , the Gentleman with whom I then abode , sonne to the Judge that had been of that name , had one seat , as another called Britains not far from Romford . At this latter he was residing when I came at first to him ; and there the Suffragane found me , when I had been some good space of time with them ; for travelling up to London about the beginning of October to the Convocation then there held , he struck in by the way in civilitie to visit his kindred there , and coming in unexpected at that juncture of time , wherein the whole familie , save the Gentleman himself , who was gone earlie abroad , was met together for our dailie morning employment , he would by no means suffer it to be forborn for his presence , but understanding from the Gentlewoman what I was , upon what account with them , and what my wonted cours therein , he laid a kind of kind constraint upon me to perform all in that manner then , as at other times I did ; the Chapter which that day I read and opened , was ( I well remember it ) Ephes . 1. After which office finished , and prayer conceived , he had some speech with me , and upon demand thereof being informed that I was not yet in the Ministerie , but intended it hereafter , when God should please to fit me for it , and afford a call to it , the rather because to be ere long Fellow of a Colledge , wherein after some yeers continuance it would be reqired of me ; he both encouraged me to undertake it , and of his own accord offred to ordain me , willing me for that end to repair to him at his return back to his charge at Witteham , which would be toward the Feast of Christs Nativitie , about which time also the Gentleman , Mr. Aylof , was to remov , and so did , with his familie from Britains to Brak steed . Howbeit , considering the weightiness of the business , I held back for some space of time , and hung in suspence , until by advice of some frends at Cambridge , whom having some relation to me , and interest in me , I had by letters consulted , I was earnestlie pressed upon some considerations not needful to be here related , in no wise to let slip the present opportunitie offring it self to me for such an entrance , as by him I then might have ; whereupon being by them also so both encouraged and encited , when the Suffragan about a month after his return visited the familie again then residing at Braksteed neer to him , was pleased to renew his former motion and offer , demanding why I had not since his coming down before that resorted unto him , and appointed me to be with him on the Feast day of Purification then at hand , I accepted of that favor so kindlie and freelie then offred , and afterward afforded . and repairing unto him on the day designed , was by Imposition of Hands of the Suffragan , and another Minister then assistant unto him in the work of his Ministerial employments , therein joyning with him , there and then ordained Presbyter . But this relation for the reason above specified being onely taken in by the way , to return to this Gadburie , and his dealing here both with the Gentlewoman now out of his reach , and my self , may he not deservedlie be branded with the name and note of a most shameless Sycopha 〈…〉 , that of no other words then are here expressed , would make such an inconseqent and reasonless construction , and from no other matter then is here exhibited , raise so vile and abominable , but wholie groundless ; a charge ? yea may it not justlie be deemed , that the Devil , whom herein he doth service to , and hath conseqentlie dealing with , stood at his elbow and suggested such hellish stuff to him ; or , that he dipt his pen in the Devils Ink-pot , when he thus wrote ? unless it be doubted , as well it may be , whether the Devil himself , with all his hellish wit , would ever have offred to pick anie such matter out of those words of mine ; whereout to forge so gross and groundless a slander . But herein withall , as well this Gadburie , as Lili● , both birds of a feather doth evidentlie shew unto what an height his spight and ranco● is boiled up against the Ministerie , when he covertlie styles Christs Ministers unhallowed Priests , & would have them deemed no other then a crew of lecherons creatures . Which terms and phrases discovering in him an Heart unhallowed and ful fraught with the gall of bitterness , and surcharged with a superfluitie of prophaness and ungodliness ( for out of the wast of the heart , as well the Pen writes , as the toung speaks ) no less , if not much more then did that pecuniarie motion made to Simon Peter the Apostle by Simon the Samaritan Sorcerer , as our English renders it , or as the Greek hath it , Magician ; unto which Tribe and fraternitie one of Lilies grand Patrons , as himself relates him , and as is elswhere shewn , doth by necessarie conseqence from Osiander pronounce him to belong ; I shall take my leav of them both , resolving here as concerning them to lay down my Pen , and not to wast pretious time , or soil and foil paper hereafter any further in dealing with their filth ; and referring them onelie to that advice , which that blessed Apostle gave to that wretched and cursed Caytiff , Act. 8. 22. and wishing them to to take it neerer to heart , and make better use of it , then it is commonlie deemed that he did . However , it is yet some comfort unto me , that neither that former Helhound , whom I justlie so termed for his malicious bayting of and barking at that blessed man of God Calvin , and other of Christs faithful servants , could meet with ought in the whole cours of my life to charge me with , but what hath been evidentlie evinced to be notoriouslie untru ; nor this other , as justlie deserving the like note and name , as manifestlie discovering himself to be such , as well by his palpable calumnie , of an utterlie unknown , and nothing less deserving partie , as also by his malignant disposition and affection to Gods Ministerie , can espie , and find no nothing throughout my whole Vindication , whereat to snarl , or whereon to fasten his Cerberian ●ang , save a pretended contradiction of his own coining there , where no shew or shadow at all of contradiction appeers . For as concernig his Qerie propounded to me Page 23. whether I can denie , but that in these late Intestine Wars that hath fallen out that his frend Lilie foretold of the ruinating of the most statelie building of this Kingdome ; nor is it exactlie tru ; nor what this man speaks of manie great Houses ruinated , anie more then what anie ordinarie person might easilie foresee in the hot pursuit of anie Civil war was likelie to ensue ; nor is it anie other then to demand whether his fellow-figure-caster , among a multitude of lies , figments and fancies , hath not lighted on somewhat that fell out as he fancied . Whereof see my Vindication pag. 76-80 . Some few Escapes of moment may thus be amended . Pag. 7. lin . 34. qàm qae p 8 〈◊〉 . 3. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 9. l. 8. as evil , p. 11. l. 22. or ●ow , p. 25. l. 22. and caried , p. 34. l. 9. a visit . p. 41. l. 4. Rand. l. 20. what one l. 22. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 66. at l. 14. marg . p. 379. at l. 28. Chap. 79. p. 3. 4. p 90. a● l. 1. put in the margin , As in his Pre●ace to Anabapt . Wa●ht ; I am a tru Protestant in 〈…〉 ue own sense . FINIS . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A85827-e3340 Sabini qod volunt somniant . Festus . Qaliaeunque voles Judaei somnia vendent , Juven . Menander . Cyril . adv . Julian . l. 7. Plutarch . in Caton . Major . Syrus Mim . De Sap. Constant . c. 17. Jude 13. Prov. 12. 23. Plut. design . profect . Eccles 7. 1. Matth. 26. 7. John 12. 3. Prov. 22. 1. Liv. l. 3. Dio P●us . orat . 46. Greg. Naz. cont . Arian . 1 Cor. 9. 15. Phil 4. 8. Rom. 12. 17. 2 Cor. 8. 21. B●rn . de temp . 74. 1 Cor. 10. 32. Clem. Paedag. l. 3. 11. Julian . de Viduit . c. 12. Aug. ad fratr . erem . serm . 52. Acts 24. 16. Ibid. M. Anton. l. 2. sect . 11. Id. l. 4. sect . 12. & l. 6. sect . 2. 22. 1 Cor. 4 3 , 4. Id. l. 5. sect 3. & l. 11. sect . 16. 2 Cor. 6. 8. 2 Cor. 13 7. Se● . Epist . 8● . Ibid. Id. epist . 113. Epict●t l. 4 c. 6. Anton l. 7. sect . 36. Plut. Apophth . Dio Prus . orat . 47. Acts ●5 . 41. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ●lega●s . Casaub . H●b ▪ 11. 36. J. Capit. i 〈…〉 Ma●c . Ibid. J. Cap ibid. Vid M. Anton. l. 1. sect . 16. & l. 6. sect 30. 1 Tim. 3. 7. Ibid. Ibid. V. 6. Ephes . 4 27. Prov 26. 10 , 12. 1 Cor. 9. 2 Cor. 10 & 11 & 12 & 13. Sen epist . ●2 . Ibid. Id. epist . 91. Plut. de adult . De irá . l. 3. c. 6. Naso Fast . l. 4. P. Syrus . Eurip. Ae●l . Pett . Fons R●g ▪ Jur. Leo Imp. ad Maurit . Ep. apud Grat. Caus . 1. Q 〈…〉 . 1. Jo. Sam. Glos . ib. Aris 〈…〉 〈◊〉 . E●hic . l. 5 c. 1. Anton. Melis . l. 1. c. 16. S●● . de tr 〈…〉 qil . c. 15. Isid . Pel. l. 2. epist . 229. Cicer. ad Luceium . 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Amos 8. 5. Exod. 31. 2 , 6 , 11 , 13 , 15. Aug. in Psal . 91. & 32. See Vindicat. p. 17 , 18. Thucydid . Greg. Naz. de pa●e orat 3. R. Carpenter , Adve . t. p. 436. R. Carpenter , S●rmon and no Sermon , &c. p. 176 178. Aristot . de gen . annimal . l. 4. c. 3 Plut. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . Sen. de berefic . lib. 4 c. 26 & 27 Bellarm. de Concil . l. 4. c. 9. & Bishop . ag . Perkins . Method de resurr , apud Epiphan . hoeres . 64. Sect. 28. Canon . Apost . qi dicuntur , can . 13. Concil . Sardic . can . 1. Carthag . 3. can . 38 Brace●● . 2. can 6. pelag . 2. apud Gratian c. 7. q. 1 Flacc. lib. 1. Epist . 11. Hosius in Conc. Sardic . 2 Sam. 10. 5. Plaut . Menaeth . 1. 1. Publ. Syr. Phalaris Epist . 17. M. Antonin . l 7. sect . 74. Ibid. sect . 13. Plut. de vit . Epitcur . Id de convict . trincip . cum Pbilos . Id ibid. Id de Socrat. Genio . M. Anton. l 7. sect . 23 & l. 9. sect . 42. Sen ▪ de Ren. l. 1. c. 2. & l 4. c. 13. Plut. in Apoph . Eupolis Amicis . Dr. Gowge . Dr. Taylor . Dr. Sibbes . Cato Censor . P●ut . in pracept . polit . in Apophth . 〈◊〉 Cat. Maj. Thales . Laert. l. 1. Stob. ●it . 68. Festus . Cicero pro Qu●● . Mr. Jos . Simonds . Mr. Edw. Goodal . Mr. John Grail . Hesiod . Flac. 1. l. Sat. 4. Plut. de Adul●● dignosc . Rolloc , in 1 Tim. Arist . Rhetor. l. 2. c 13. Ter. Adelph● 5. 3. Ammian . Hist ▪ l. 1 Tim. 6. 10. Rolloc . ib. Stob. Tom. 2. tit . 115. Anton ▪ Melis . l. 2. c. 17. Laert. l. 8. in Pythag. Gal. de Dogm . Hip. & Plat. l. 8. Plin. l. 8 c. 27. qo● refutat . Scal. de subtil . exerc . 196. sect . 7 Aug. de temp . 246. Cic. de Senect . Aug. ibid. Plut. de avar . Arist . Poet. c. 21. Lu●ian . de Sectis . Pomp. Eigest . l. 40 tit . 5. l. 28. Diogen . Adag . ●13 . Numb . 4 3. and 8. 25 , 26. Mr. S. M. Mr. P. S. John 8 44. Rev. 21. 8. and 22. 15. Ester 3. 5. 6. Sam. 22. 16 , 18 Notes for div A85827-e18740 Adve●t . Obj ▪ 1 p. 423. Anabap. washt chap. 42. p. 154 Ibid. chap. 86. p. 343. 346. Cha. 41. p. 152 Cha. ●2 . p. 121 ▪ Ibid. Cha. 74. p. 268. Cha. 29. p. 107. Chap. 102. p 372. Chap. 40. ●p . 144 , 146. Cha. 87 p 356 Chap. 102. p 379. Mr. L. C. Adv. p ▪ 452 , 453. Au. wash . C. 88. p. 361. Cha. 41. p. 152. Ibid. p. 152. 153 Ibid. p 2●3 . Advert . Obj. 5. p 445 , 446. Cha 34. p. ●22 . Ibid. p. 126. Cha. 40. p. 142 , 143. Adv●rt . Ob. 5. p. 444. Ibid. p. 445. Ii 〈…〉 446. Iibid. 446. Cha. 41. p. 153 Ibid. p. 149. Serm. no Ser p 228. Ibid. p. 230. Athen , dipnosep . l. 10. Serm. no Ser. p. 50. Pag. 52. Pag. 50. Serm. no Serm. p. 201. a Page 125. b Page 110. c Page 131. d Page 63 , 64. e Page 188. Act. 17. 11. & 26. 22. Anabap : washt Cha. 62. p. 328. Ibid. Advert . Ob. 2. p. 424. Baron A●al . 〈◊〉 ▪ 955. Sect. 2 , 3. Idemex Gl. Rho. an . 1633 Sect. 6 Bel. de Pon. Ro 〈…〉 l. 4 c. 14. Jo. Bal. in Vit. Pont. Rom. Page 99. Adv. Obj. 2. p. 425. Ser. no Ser p. 160. Adver . Obj 2. p. 425. Adv. p. 454. An wash Cha. 86 p. 342. Pag. 433. An. wash . Cha. 102. p. 379. a Pag. 430. b Pag. 434. c Pag 4●3 . d Ibid. e Pag 425 f P. 435 , 436. g Pag. 436. h Pag. 427. Erasm . Eccles . lib. 3. Serm no Ser. p. 44-49 . Serm. no Ser. p. 220. Anab Washt . Chap. 42 p. 156 Page 245. Ib. Chap. 35. p. 126. Serm no Serm. p. 229. Ibid. Adv. Obj. 1. p. 421. An Washt Chap 41. p. 150. E●pen Adag . Arab. Anabap Wash Title Page . i Serm no Serm. p. 67 , 6● . k An. Wash . Chap 8. p ▪ 338. l Ibid. p. 339. m Ibid p. 331. chap 83. n Ibid. 330. * Chap. 85. p 339. o Hi●ero● . Dial. adv . Lucif . Ibid. p. 339. See Anab. Washt . Cha. 4● p. 149. Advert . Obj 5. p. 447. Ibid. p. 448. Serm. no Serm. p. 231. Post●c● . p. 2. Thom. Aqin sum part . 1 , 2. qest . 29 art 2. Plut ▪ de irac ▪ co●ib . Adv. Obj. 4. p. 439. Serm. no Serm. p. 225. ●bi supra p 439 Adv. Obj 5. p. 443. Serm no Serm. p. 194. Ibid p. 195 a Serm no Ser. page 273. b Page 110. c Page 115. d Page 129. e Page 67. f Page 98. g An. W. c 103. p 384. h S no S p. 101 i Page 204. * A. W. c. 26. p 90. k S. no S. p. 1. 191 l Pag● 112. m Page 1●9 n Page 221. o Page 190 ▪ 191 p Page 188. q Page 234. r Page 230. Adv. p. 427. Ser no Ser. p 111. Ibid p. 225. Ibid. p. 230. Page 226. An. W. Cha. 41. p. 149. Serm. no Serm. p. 111. An. wash . chap. 88. p 361. Ibid. p. 262. Pag. 101. Pag. 102. Pag. 104. Pag. 171. See his Chro●ological Discours , and his Satyrical Dialogues . Exper Hist , & divin . lib 2. chap 5. p. 253. Ibid. Lib. 5 chap. 7. p 245. Serm no Serm. p 98. Page 100. Ibid. Page 101. Page 105. Page 1●8 . An Was Chap. ●01 p. 374. Ibid. p. 372. Act 2. Can 16. ●●i● . p. 374. Page 180. Pag. 135. Pag. 1 Po. Notes for div A85827-e29380 Mr. J. W.