Lex talionis, or, An enquiry into the most proper ways to prevent the persecution of the Protestants in France Defoe, Daniel, 1661?-1731. 1698 Approx. 43 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 16 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. Text Creation Partnership, Ann Arbor, MI ; Oxford (UK) : 2003-01 (EEBO-TCP Phase 1). A48302 Wing L1863 ESTC R33482 13403091 ocm 13403091 99391 This keyboarded and encoded edition of the work described above is co-owned by the institutions providing financial support to the Early English Books Online Text Creation Partnership. This Phase I text is available for reuse, according to the terms of Creative Commons 0 1.0 Universal . The text can be copied, modified, distributed and performed, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission. Early English books online. (EEBO-TCP ; phase 1, no. 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LONDON , Printed in the Year M DC XCVIII . Lex Talionis . EVROPE has now for Nine Years past been afflicted with a Bloody , a cruel and a Destructive War , carried on with a vast Effusion of Blood and Treasure ; and in all Parts of it manag'd with more Eagerness and Fury , than any War among the Europoean Princes ever was in the Memory of Man. The French , who are Masters of Address , used all the Skill and Cunning with the Roman Catholick Princes , especially those of Italy , to have made it pass for a War of Religion , thinking by that fineness , to have drawn them off from the Confederacy . But Innocent XI . who , 't was likely , knew as much of Religion , and the Interest of the Church , as the Statesmen of France , saw through that Artifice , and readily agreed with the Emperor , and the King of Spain , That the Growing Greatness of France , and the Measures laid for the Subjecting Europe to her Government , were really more dangerous Things , and of more immediate Consequence to the Publick Liberty , than the Matter of Religion could be : And therefore , though the Court of Rome made some seeming Difficulties at first ; yet the French having thrown off the Mask , and fallen upon his Catholick Confederate the Duke of Savoy , the most Bigotted Romanist , made no scruple to entertain Heretick Soldiers , to recall the banish'd Vaudois , to fight under the Command of Protestant Generals , to accept of the Subsidial Supplies of Protestant Money , and the Protection of Protestant Armies ; thereby evidently declaring to all the World , that this was a War of State , not of Religion ; and that the real Interest of Princes , is to preserve themselves , and their Subjects , against a too Powerful Invader , by Leagues and Assistances , let their Religious Interests be what they will. Nor have the Protestant Princes , though their Forces in this Confederacy have been much superiour , been backward to push on the Common Interest with their utmost Vigour , but have with extraordinary chearfulness assisted the Roman Catholick Confederates , with their Armies , Fleets , and Moneys ; witness the Subsidies paid to the Duke of Savoy , by the English and Dutch ; the Army maintain'd , under the Command of Duke Schombergh in English Pay in Piedmont ; the Forces Ship'd from England to Catalonia , to aid the Spaniard , which sav'd the City of Barcelona a whole Year ; witness also the English Fleet Wintering at Cadiz , under Admiral Russel ; the Squadron sent to the West-Indies , to Relieve Cartagena : And indeed the whole Series of the War has been one continual Instance of the Safety and Protection the Roman Catholick Countries have enjoy'd , by the Sword and Power of the Protestant Interest . So that it has been apparent , beyond the power of Contradiction , that this has been a War of State , not a War of Religion : Nor can I imagine , generally speaking that it can ever be the Interest of the Powers of Europe , take them together , to Commence a War of Religion : For though 't is true , That the Pope always Exalted both his Power and Credit , in the blind Ages of bigotted Devotion , by his Crusadoes and Holy Expeditions ; yet since , the World has more Years over its Head , and the Cheat has been discovered , Int'rest has prevail'd too much upon Devotion to be Deceiv'd any more at that rate : And the Reformed Kingdoms of Europe , are too Potent to be us'd so any more . 'T is true , the Protestant Religion has lost Ground in France ; and that Kingdom where once the Protestants were Strong enough to Contend with their Governours for their Liberty , is now wholly Roman , at least seems to be so . But notwithstanding that , I believe the Protestant Interest in Europe , very well able to stand a shock with the Popish , when ever the Pope thinks fit to Publish another Bloody Jubilee , and display the Standard of St. Peter against St. Paul. And not to descend to Particulars , I shall only Draw up the several Kingdoms , on each Side , who would form this Great Division in Case of such a War. On the Roman Catholick Side , There would be the Emperor , the Pope , the King of France , the King of Spain , the King of Portugal , the King of Poland , the Princes of Italy , Five Electoral Princes of Germany , and the Catholick Cantons of Swisserland . On the Protestant Side , The King of England , King of Denmark , King of Sweden , the Czar of Moscovy , States of Holland , Three Electoral Princes of Germany , but those by far the Strongest ; the Protestant Cantons of Swisserland , the Grisons , Hungarians , Transilvanians , and Moldavians . In the first place , I think it wou'd easily be granted , That the English , Dutch , Dane , and Swede , United ; wou'd be able to Maintain so absolute a Dominion of the Seas , as would entirely Ruine the Negotia-tion of the Catholick Party , Beggar their Merchants , Starve their Islands , and Destroy all their Trade ; They should never be able to Build a Ship , without Leave ; Their Ports should be Bombarded and Destroy'd , their Open Country be Ruin'd by Descents , and all their Coasts continually Harrass'd and Alarm'd by Fleets , and Volant Parties . What the Armies at Land could do , I referr to the History of the Present War , and of Gustavus Adolphus King of Sweden ; who , barely on a War of Religion , and with only his Own single Force , and the Protestant Princes of Germany , who were then much Weaker than they are now , in Two Years and a half pass'd the Rhine and the Danube , and shook the Imperial Crown on the Head of Ferdinand the Second . It would take up too much room in this short Treatise , to Consider the Proportion of the Force of these Nations in general ; 't is true that the weight of the Force of the Catholick Party , lies in the Power of the French ; who must , in such a Case , be the Bulwark and Support of their Cause . As to the Spaniard , he wou'd as he has in all Cases , have Work enough to Secure his Own ; the Empire separated from the Protestant Party , with the Swede , Dane , Brandenburghers , Saxons , and all the Princes of the Augustane Confession on its Front , with the Protestants of Upper Hungary and Transylvania in the Rear , with the Switz and Grisons in Flank , wou'd be very hard bestead , having no Power but the Bavarian , and the small Electorates of Ments , Triers and Cologne , which are of no Consideration to uphold it . Some Support might be drawn from Italy indeed ; but the French must give a powerful Assistance , or the Emperor would be Devoured in two Campagns ; the English , Dutch , and Eastern Germans , as the Lunenburghers , of Hanouer and Brunswick , would be the Opposites to the French on this side , and there the Contention would be strongest . I believe no Wise Man wishes for so Universal a Distraction as such a War would make in Europe , but 't is needful to suppose such a Thing , in order to Examine whether we ought to apprehend any Danger from it , in case such an Attempt shou'd ever be made in Europe ; for 't is apparent , some Princes of the Roman Catholick Party , have Will enough to such an Enterprize , and the Pope would be forward enough to set it on Foot , if he were but sure of the Success . The glorious Peace of Reswick , in which all the World must acknowledge the French have been very much reduc'd , has but One Clause that any way Eclipses the Honour of its Conclusion on the Protestant side , and that is , that it left the Poor Protestant Subjects of the King of France , without any shelter from the Violences of their Persecutors ; as if the Protestant Princes had so much excluded the Int'rests of Religion from the Articles , that they had not one Compassionate Thought for their Distressed persecuted Brethren . 'T is true , the War was wholly a War of State , as is before noted , and the Invasion of Property was the Occasion of it ; and therefore the Surrender of Luxemburgh to the Spaniard , who is a Roman Catholick , nay , a few Villages in the Chattelany of Aeth , made more Bustle in the Treaty , than the Restoration of Three Hundred Thousand banish'd Christians to their Country and Estates . Some have presum'd to say , That had the Restoration of the Edict of Nants been insisted on with the same Vigour as the Dutchy of Lorrain , it wou'd as easily have been Obtain'd ; and these People , among whom some of the French Refugees are of that Mind , think the Protestant Int'rest was not so much Considered in that Treaty as it ought to have been . I cou'd easily Answer such Objectors , by telling them , That the Ground of this War being only Matter of Right , to reduce the Power of France to a Balance , and to oblige her to restore what she had by Force and Injustice taken from her Neighbours ; this being obtain'd , the End was answer'd , and the Confederate Princes had no further Pretence for a War : As to the Protestant Refugees , they were the Subjects of the King of France , and strictly speaking with respect of Princes , no body had any thing to do with it , let him use them how he would . Besides , to have made it an Article of the Peace , it could not be expected that the Catholick Branches of the Confederacy would have insisted on it , or , indeed , have desired it , and the Treaty being Manag'd in one Body , by the Resolutions and Measures of several Princes and States in Congress , the Catholick Princes would have immediately Protested against it , and the Union must have been Dissolved . So that there was no room to Espouse the Interests of the Protestant Subjects of France in the General Treaty , any other Way than by Intercession with their King to use them Mercifully : And this has been done by all Parties , though hitherto without Success . It remains now to examine what Methods are further to be used , in order to oblige the King of France to use his Protestant Subjects with more Humanity , and if possible , either to preserve them that Peace and Enjoyment of their Properties and Estates , which is their Natural Right ; or to procure them some other Equivalent which may give them some kind of Satisfaction and Repose . To Commence a War against the King of France , for the Prosecution of His Protestant Subjects , seems to be very Unjust ; because Speaking of Right and Wrong , we are not Interested in the Quarrel . I make no Question but the Protestants of France themselves have , by the Laws of Nature and Reason , a right to Defend their own Possessions and Inheritances , and to Maintain themselves in them by Force , if they had a Power ; and by the same Rule might by Strength of Hand recover and take Possession of their own Estates if they were Able : But it does not seem so clear that a Neighbour Nation or State can justifie the making War on the King of France , to oblige him to do Justice to his Protestant Subjects . Nor will I attempt to Determine how far it would be Lawful to assist such a People in such a forcible Return , or in Maintaining themselves in the Possession and Enjoyment of their own Rights , be they never so Just. Only thus far 't is plain , That by the particular Article of the Peace of Riswick , respecting the Kings of England and France ; England is fore-closed from such an Attempt both Sides having expresly Stipulated not to Assist the Subjects of either against their Sovereign . The Fourth Article of the said Treaty , providing as follows , ( viz. ) And since the most Christian King was never more desirous of any thing , than that the Peace be Firm and Inviolable , the said King Promises and Agrees for Himself and His Successors , That he will on no Account whatsoever disturb the said King of Great Britain in the free Possession of the Kingdoms , Countries , Lands or Dominions which He now Enjoys , and therefore Engages His Honour , upon the Faith , and Word of a King , that He will not give or Afford any Assistance , directly or indirectly , to any Enemy or Enemies of the said King of Great Britain ; And that He will in no manner whatsoever favour the Conspiracies or Plots which any Rebels , or ill-disposed Persons , may in any Place Excite or Contrive against the said King ; And for that End Promises and Engages , That He will not Assist with Arms , Ammunition , Provisions , Ships or Money , or in any other way , by Sea or Land , any Person or Persons , who shall hereafter , under any Pretence whatsoever , Disturb or Molest the said King of Great Britain in the free and full Possession of His Kingdoms , Countries , Lands and Dominions . The King of Great Britain likewise Promises and Engages for Himself and Successors , Kings of Great Britain , That He will Inviolably Do and Perform the same towards the said most Christian King , His Kingdoms , Countries , Lands and Dominions . There seems to be but One Way left , either to make any Amends to these poor desolate People , or to bring to pass their Re-admission ; I do not say , that the Princes of Europe will find it their Int'rest to put it in practice any more than I believe it is really the Int'rest of the King of France , to Ruine so many Thousand Families of his Peaceable Subjects ; I mean , the Old Standard Law of Retaliation . But if it might be a Means to re-establish those poor People in Peace and Liberty , the Sacrificing Ten Thousand Families of other persons , as Innocent as them , seems to be a Justice their present Case calls for . Lex Talionis seems to me to be the Foundation-Law of Right and Wrong ; the Scripture is full of Instances of this Nature : Adoni-bezek , Agag , and a multitude of other Relations therein , declare it to be agreeable to the Divine Method of Executive Justice ; the reason of Rewards and Punishments , seems to be wholly measured by it : And if exactly administred , it carries so Convictive a Force , that no Person who ever fell under the severest part of it , could object against the Execution of it . Adoni-bezek , above-mention'd , made a Confession of the Justice of his Punishment , when his Thumbs and Great Toes were cut off , as a Retaliation of his Barbarities . And Samuel's Return upon Agag , That as his sword had made women childless , so should his Mother be childless among women ; declares both the Reason and the Justice of God's Decree against him , 1 Sam. XV. 33. 'T is true , this Retaliation is strictly Personal ; and all Retaliation ought to be so , if possible : But in some Cases it differs ; and where a Personal Retaliation is not practicable , then People are considered in Collective Bodies , Nations , Families , and States . Thus , in a War , the Subjects of either Party account it very justifiable , to make themselves Satisfaction for Injuries received , on any of the Subjects of the contrary Party , though the Wrong particularly suffered , is not chargeable on those particular Persons who suffer for it . By the same Rule , it seems justifiable , if we cast the whole Body of Europe into Two sorts , Popish and Protestant , that while the one part commit Hostilities and Depredations on the other , the injur'd Party should have a Right of Retaliation on any Member of the same Body , of what Nation or Government soever they shall be , where the Power is properly put into their Hands : for Power , in such a case , may pass for a sufficient Right of Directing the said Punishment , since nothing but want of Power interrupts its being Personal . The French King has given a Challenge to all the Protestant Princes of Europe , in his present Usage of the Reformed Churches of France : He has carry'd on , though not with much Success , a War for above Eight Years , against the whole United Power of Europe ; at last he has made a Peace , not at all to his Advantage , nor much for his Honour : And now the War of State is at an end , he seems to be beginning a War of Religion ; and that he may lay the Foundation of it safely , he has began it upon his own Subjects . I cannot imagine why all the Protestant Princes of Europe should not think themselves concern'd in this Invasion of their Religion , since nothing is more certain than that they are all strook at , though more remotely : And by all the Rules of Humane Policy , Prevention ought to extend as far as the Evil is design'd . If the weakening the Protestant Interest in general , were only the Design ; the strengthening that Interest ought to be the care of the other : Besides , the Papists are the Aggressors , as they always have been , and the Injustice of their Cause so great , that they have hardly ever attempted to make any other Pretences for all their Barbarities , than the Absolute Will and Pleasure of their Omnipotent Monarch , who will have but one Religion within his Dominions . I confess , to me it seems very proper , for the Ease of all Parties , That Religion should really divide the whole Body of Europe , and that all the Roman Catholicks , and all the Protestants , if they could but agree it among themselves , should live by themselves ; That if the French King will have no Protestants in his Dominion , the Protestants should suffer no Roman Catholicks in theirs ; and when all Parties are withdrawn to their own sort , and the Division compleated , let the Roman Catholicks begin a War of Religion as soon as they please . It is , in my opinion , the unjustest thing in the World , that since the Spaniards and Italians suffer no Protestants to live amongst them , but the bloody Inquisition destroys them ; and the French have Dragoon'd Three Hundred Thousand of their Protestant Subjects to Mass , and hurry'd Three Hundred Thousand more out of their Country , to seek Comfort from the Charity of Neighbour States . The Duke of Savoy has Exiled all his Protestant Vaudois : And hardly any Popish Country admit the Protestants among them , some few Parts of Germany excepted ; yet the Protestant Governments , at the same time , suffer Three Millions of Papists to live among them , and enjoy their Liberties and Estates unmolested . Nor is this all , the Protestants of France , Savoy , and Hungary , have been Persecuted , under the Assurances of the most solemn Treaties , the most sacred Edicts , and the firmest Peace that could be made ; they have never , their Enemies themselves being Judges , been guilty of the Breach of their Faith or Loyalty . Henry III. of France , acknowledged it , when he had recourse to them for Protection against his own mutinous Catholick Subjects . The Duke of Savoy acknowledged it , in his Speech to those Vaudois whom he had releas'd out of the Citadel of Turin . We never read of any War begun by the Protestants , they were always Defendants ; we have not one Instance of a Massacre committed , or of a King Assassinated , or of Nobles Undermined , in order to to be blown up by them ; they have always been Men of Peace , till Self-Defence has oblig'd them to be Men of War. On the contrary , the Roman-Catholicks have been always uneasie to the Governments they have lived under . Our Histories are full of their Treasons . Ireland has twice been Deluged in Blood by their Rebellions and Cruelties . Two Kings of France have been Murthered by their Assassinations ; and innumerable Protestants Massacred and Butcher'd in Cold Blood , under the pretences of Friendship , and assurance of a Treaty . The Reigns of all our Kings and Queens in England , since Henry VIII . have been strangely disturb'd by the Plots , the Treasons and Rebellions of the Papists ; they have often forfeited their Estates and Liberties to the Publick Justice of the Nation , had they been dealt with by the Rules of strict Retaliation . England , Scotland and Ireland have such Reasons for Entire removing them out of their Dominions , as no Nation in the World can have greater ; and yet here they live in Peace , under the Protection of those very Princes they refuse to swear Allegiance to , and under the shelter of those Laws they refuse to be bound by . 'T is no Plea in Bar of any Right , that the Plaintiff is a Papist ; our Courts of Justice are as open to them , as to any of the Kings most faithful Subjects : Of which more hereafter . On the contrary , the Protestants of France , tho' charg'd with no Disloyalty , nor guilty of no Crimes , are Dispossess'd of their Estates , Banish'd their Native Country , Dragoon'd , Shipt to the Gallies , and many of them Hang'd , their Children torn from them by Violence , and buried alive in Monasteries and Nunneries , and all the Cruelties an unbridled Soldiery can inflict , acted upon them , without any manner of Crime alledg'd but their Religion , and this when that very Religion was secur'd to them by the solemnest Leagues and Treaties in the World , Declared in the famous Edict of Nantes , Entred , Receiv'd and Registred in all the Parliaments of the Kingdom . The King of France , in Persecuting his Protestant Subjects , acts not only the part of a Tyrant over them , as they are his Subjects , but is guilty of the Breach of the Faith and Honour of a King , oppressing those People who had their Religion tolerated and allow'd to them by his Ancestors , in the most sacred manner possible ; and he is guilty also of the greatest Unkindness to those very People who were the Instruments and Agents of the Glory of his Family , and of his Person . To make good which Reflection , that I may not seem to be guilty of Disrespect to the Majesty of the King of France , 't is needful to examine a little the Ground on which the Protestant Interest in France stood for the last Century of Years , and the History of the present Royal Family of France , and how they came to the Crown . In the Year 1571. on the 24th . Day of August , Charles IX . being King of France , the Third War with the Hugonots having been lately ended , and a Peace made with the Protestants , the Cities of Rochell , Montauban , Coignac , and la Charitie , being put into their Hands for Security , and the Chief of the Protestants wholly resting on the Faith and Honour of the King , in full Satisfaction of his sincere Intentions , being come to Court , was acted the Massacre of Paris ; at which , in the space of Five Days , above Thirty Thousand Protestants were barbarously Surprized and Butcher'd in Cold Blood. Upon which follow'd the Fourth and Fifth Civil War ; during which , King Charles IX . died ; and the Crown fell to Henry III. the last of the House of Valois , and then newly Elected King of Poland . The Beginning of his Reign being entangled with Civil Broils , the Protestant Interest grew very strong ; and though the League forced the King to make Three several Wars with them , yet they still maintain'd their Liberty and Religion . At length the Faction of the Guises , known by the Name of the Catholick League , Declar'd themselves so absolutely against the King , and grew so powerful , especially after the Death of the Duke and Cardinal of Guise , whom the King had caused to be kill'd , that they had almost driven him out of the Kingdom . In this Exigence , the Protestants , against whom he had carry'd on Four Persecutions and Wars , and therein destroyed many thousands of their Brethren , undertook his Defence , and joining all their Forces , in order to Restore him , marched with him to the very Gates of Paris ; where , while he was preparing for a general Attack of the City , he was barbarously Assassinated by Jacques Clement , a Jacobin Monk , sent out of the City on purpose , being stabb'd in the Belly with a Poynard , of which he died the Day after . Henry IV. the present King's Grand-father , was then King of Navarre , and a Protestant ; and being Lawful Heir to the Crown , as also recommended to the Nobility by the deceased King , at his death , took upon him the Stile and Title of King of France . The League , back'd by the Power of the King of Spain , oppos'd him with all the vigour imaginable ; and many of the Catholick Nobility deserted him , on the account of his being an Heretick . The Protestants serv'd him with all the Glory and Loyalty that ever was shown , perhaps , in any War in the World ; and , as is computed , during the Years War he maintain'd against the League , and the Spanish Power , above an Hundred and Sixty Thousand Protestant Soldiers lost their Lives in his Service . At length , to put an end to the War , and assure himself of the Kingdom , he deserted his Religion , and turn'd Roman-Catholick ; by which means he obtain'd a full Possession of the Crown , ruin'd the League , the Chief Heads of it making their Peace with him , one by one ; and at last concluded the War with the Spaniard , at the Peace of Vervin . The Protestants , however , never withdrew their Loyalty nor their Services from him : The famous Mareschal de Biron , the Dukes de Bouillon , du Plessis , and de la Tremouille , continuing to do him the most faithful and important Services against the Spaniards to the last . Having setled himself in the Kingdom , and made Peace with all the World , the Protestants , who had serv'd him so faithfully , and who expected no other Reward than the Security of their Religion and Estates , obtain'd from him the famous Edict of Nantes ; in which is particularly stated and stipulated , the Terms of their Liberty , in what Places they should erect their Temples , how they should hold their Synods and Assemblies : Money was allotted out of the Publick Revenues , to maintain their Ministers ; Cities were allotted to them , for their Security , the Garrisons whereof were to be paid by the King : And the Edict was made Perpetual and Irrevocable , by being Entred and Registred in the Parliaments , and Courts of Justice all over the Kingdom . But all the Services of the Protestants to this Great King , by which he was brought to the Crown of France , nor the solemn Engagement of this Edict , could not preserve them , but that in the Ministry of Cardinal Richlieu , under the very next Reign , they were again attack'd , and driven to the necessity of taking Arms in their own Defence : Which Cardinal , after three times making Peace , and breaking it again at his pleasure , compleated the Conquest of them , in the Taking of Rochelle ; the Protestants being miserably deserted by the English , and Thirteen Thousand People starv'd to death in the Town . Since this , in the Infancy of the present King , while the Contests between the Prince of Conde and the Queen-Mother were so hot as to break out into a War , the Protestants , as Subjects only , were not a little instrumental to the maintaining him in that very Power , which now he makes use of to their Destruction . I think this History fully makes good the Assertion that the present Usage of the Protestants is both Perfidious and Ungrateful . Perfidious , as being acted while under the Protection of a Sacred League and Solemn Treaty , and Ungrateful as it is exercised on those very People , who with their Lives and Estates , raised the present Fortune of the House of Bourbon , to the Greatness it now enjoys . I have been the more particular in this Account , because from hence it will appear that the Protestants of France stand on a different foot from other Subjects of that Monarchy , and that his right of Dealing with them , differs from his Power over the rest of his Subjects , for they are his Subjects by express Stipulations and Agreements , whose Obedience to him has been always allow'd to be Conditional ; they have made Peace and War with their Kings , not as Rebels , but as Persons having a Lawful Right to Plead and to Defend , their Kings have given them Cautionary Towns for the Performance of the Treaties made with them ; a Thing which in its own Nature implies that they might hold those Towns against him , if he did not perform the Postulata of those Treaties , without the Scandal of Rebellion . So that their Right to the Liberty of their Religion , had an Authority sufficient to justifie them in taking Arms ; nor does any of the French Histories , that ever I saw , though wrote with the greatest Partiality , ever call it a Rebellion , but a War with the Hugonots , and the Conclusions were always call'd , A Peace with the Hugonots , as is Evident through D' Avila's whole History of the Civil Wars of France . The History of the Protestants of the Upper Hungary and of Bohemia , might in many respects bear a Parallel with this , the Persecutions and ill Usage of them , having been after the solemnest Agreement and Treaties with them that could be made ; insomuch as that poor Unhappy People being so absolutely separated from any Relief of their Brethren of Germany , have been forced to fly for Protection to the Enemies of Christianity , the Turk , with whom however they have this Satisfaction , that whatever Bargain they make for their Religion , they are sure they will keep it . And I remember very well a Banished Hungarian Minister told me , Discoursing of this very Case , he was sorry to say it , That the Turks , though they made them pay Dear for it , were Juster and Truer to their Leagues and Treaties than the Imperialists , who call'd themselves Christians . It may possibly be objected here , That while we Exclaim against the French and Germans for their Violence to their Subjects , if we should do the same thing to the Papists , it would be practising what we Condemn , and doing Evil that Good may come . The Answer to this is Included in what goes before , ( viz. ) taking the whole Roman Catholick and Protestant Party in Europe asunder , and considering them as two Collective Bodies divided in Interest and Religion , it seems to me to be just that a Retaliation of the Injuries done upon the Members of one Party in one place , may be made upon the Members of the same Party in another place , by the same Rule that Depredations of Subjects of one Prince in War , may be paid by Reprizal upon any of the Subjects of the same Prince . But this may be more fully answer'd thus , That if the Popish Subjects of some Protestant Governments have so behaved themselves to their Governors , as to make their Extirpation just , that Justice however suspended in Mercy to them hitherto , will absolutely justifie removing them from those Governments , and by that means Lex Talionis be Executed by the Hands of Publick Justice , and one Banishment be at the same time both a Punishment of their several Crimes , and a Retaliation of the Oppressions of their Party . This is a Method God Almighty often takes himself , while he suffers a Punishment for a publick Crime of less Guilt to be the Executor of his Vengeance for some Crime of a higher Nature not known . To go no farther than Ireland for an Instance of this , the present Inhabitants , I mean the Popish Irish by a Bloody Massacre of 200. Thousand Protestants in 1641. by little less intended , and as much as they were able executed , this late War , have deserved no doubt to have been used at the Discretion of the English ; and Oliver Cromwell was more than once consulting to Transplant the whole Nation from that Island . If he had done it , or if it had now been done , I am of the Opinion , no Nation in the World wou'd have tax'd us with Injustice , and I do verily think Oliver acted with more Generosity than Discretion in omitting it ; for this is certain , that if he had done it , this last War and the Expence of so much Treasure as it cost this Nation , and the Ruine of so many Thousand Protestant Families , who were Driven from thence by King James , all the Destruction at London-Derry , the Sickness at Dundalk , and the Blood of 150000 people , who at least one way or other , on both sides , perish'd in it , had been prevented . It may be enquired whether Oliver design'd to Transplant them , I could answer directly to that also ; but 't is sufficient to my purpose to say , had he clear'd the Island of them , it had been no matter at all to us whither they had gone , and the King of France has set a Rule for such as Banish their Subjects to let them go where they please , and then they certainly separate ; whereas had he sent the Protestants to any particular place , they wou'd have been so many and so United , they might possibly have come back again with Swords in their Hands , and ha' bidden fair for another Hugonot War. I have also seen among the Letters of State written by Mr. Milton , who was his Secretary for the Foreign Dispatches , a Letter written to the States of Holland , wherein by way of Argument to prevail , for some Ease to the Protestants of Piedmont , he proposes a Confederacy with the Dutch , and all their Reform'd Friends , to reduce the Duke of Savoy to a Necessity of giving better Conditions to the Vaudois ; and seems to Threaten to Expel all the Roman Catholicks in England , Scotland and Ireland , out of his Dominions . I remember upon Discoursing of this Passage in some Company , one asked , What if he had ? and another by way of Repartee , made Answer , Then there wou'd have been none left . I repeat it not for any great Wit in the Answer ; but to Introduce the Question , What if he had ? 1. If he had , possibly we had not been troubled with any Popish Plot in 1678. nor none of the bloody Consequences of it ; we had had no Sham-Plot upon that , no Russel , Sidney , nor Armstrong Murthered ; No Blood lost in an Invasion by the Duke of Monmouth , nor Cruel Executions in the West ; we had had no Popish Successor , no Standing Army , no Bishops sent to the Tower , no Invasion of Charters nor Privilege of Universities ; No Ecclesiastical Commission , &c. 2. We had had no Nuncio from Rome , to take his Progress over the Kingdom , no Fire-Works for a Sham-Prince of Wales , nor no Mass Sung in Windsor Chapel , no Seminaries of Priests , nor Nunneries of Whores , at Chelsea , Lincolns-Inn Fields , or Hammersmith . 3. In short , we had had no War of Nine Years to restore a Popish King , the Nation had not spent 60 Millions Sterling , nor lost 200000 of the Stoutest of her Inhabitants to Maintain her Liberty ; King William had been King in Right of his Wife , and a Peaceable Admission had been given him . In all probability this had been the Consequence , if Oliver Cromwell had sent them all out of the Kingdom . I beshrew his Heart he did not . I do not pretend to lead my Reader to any Political Reasons why this shou'd be done now ; our Governours are best Judges of the Publick Interest . But thus far , I think , may be assumed without Danger of Reflection . If the Nation shou'd think fit in Compassion to the Miseries of our poor Distressed Brethren of France to retaliate their Usage upon the Roman Catholicks of England and Ireland , the following Consequences would in all probability ensue , which whether it wou'd be Just in the whole , or Beneficial to England and Ireland in particular , I leave to the Judgment of Impartial Readers to Consider , 1. It might be a means , by the Intercession of Parties , to procure some reasonable Conditions for the Poor Protestants of France , as the Stopping the Mareschal Boufflers at the Surrender of Namur procur'd Justice to the Imprisoned Garrisons of Deinse , and Dixmuide . This is a Practice too well known in the War to need any Contention , where the putting a Prisoner of War to Death , or any other Breach of Articles has been requited by putting some other Prisoner of War to Death on the contrary Side ; and though the latter be an innocent Person , Lex Talionis is the Word , the Justice of it is not disputed . 2. It wou'd put these Kingdoms in a Condition to Entertain and Relieve that great Multitude of Distressed Christians , with the very Substance of their Adversaries , and the King of France might , if he pleas'd , make the Roman Catholicks Amends , by giving them the Estates of the Hugonots , or what other Way he thought fit . This is most certain , that the Roman Catholicks of England , wou'd not have half the Reason to Complain of hard Usage that the Protestants of France have , they have no Leagues or Capitulations to show for their Permission the Laws of the Kingdom are expresly against them , and they have in all the Reigns for 150 Years past , been the Disturbers of the Peace of it ; they resuse now to Swear Allegiance to the Government , and if they do not Disturb it , it is Owing to their want of Power , not their want of Will. But if they had all those Defences to make , which have been hinted , on behalf of the Protestants of France , they wou'd have no body to thank for such Usage , but their own Friends . And the Pope , if he ow'd them so much Care , might use his Interest with the King of France , to let the Protestants enjoy their Liberty , in order to save them from the same Fate . Some , indeed , object against the receiving such vast Numbers of Foreigners among us , as Prejudicial to the Interest of Trade , and to our own Manufacturers and Inhabitants , by Eating the Bread out of our Mouths , and Starving our own Poor . This is an Argument would require a little Volume to Answer ; but in General , I presume to Affirm , That no Number of Foreigners can be Prejudicial to England , let it be never so great . Number of Inhabitants , is the Wealth and Strength of a Kingdom ; and if we had a Million of People in England , more than we have , let them be of what Nation they would , it would be far from being a Damage to us . 'T is true , if these Million of People were all Artisans , Manufacturers , it would be some detriment to our Poor who are employ'd in those particular Manufactures : but allow one third to be Artisans , one third Labourers , Husbandmen or Sailors , and one third Merchants , Shop-keepers or Gentlemen ; and if the greatest Number that can be supposed came to settle in England , it could be no Injury , but a vast Advantage to the Kingdom in general : And it will appear by this One particular , well examin'd . An Addition of a Million of People , suppose that were the Number , would devour a proportion'd quantity of Corn and Flesh for Food and Drink , and a proportioned quantity of Manufactures for Cloth and Housholdstuff ; the one employs more Land , and the other more People . Now 't is apparent , we have in England more Land lies unimprov'd , common , and waste , than would feed a vast many People more than we have ; and we have a Staple of Wooll , never to be exhausted . In Manufactures , the more Lands we improve , the greater the Rents will be , and the greater the general Stock of the Nation will be ; and the more Manufactures are made , the better the Poor are employ'd , and the richer the Manufacturer is made . Many other Arguments might be used , to prove , That the Coming Over of Foreigners can be no general Prejudice to the Nation , as to Trade . But that is not the main thing here . If the Roman-Catholick Princes pursue their Protestant Subjects with such Cruelty , and drive them into Banishment and Exile , to seek Relief in Foreign Countries , the Case seems to speak for it self , the Protestants can have no readier way , either to prevent the Miseries of those poor persecuted People , or to relieve them in their Exile , than by dealing with the Papists in their Dominions in the same manner , and Inviting the said persecuted French to come and live in the Estates and in the Places of their Adversaries . This is Lex Talionis : And this is a way that would soon tire the Papists out . For I think I may be allowed to suppose there are much the greater number of Papists among the Protestants , than there are of Protestants among the Papists ; and the Exile of the Parties would also differ , as to Places . For , generally speaking , the Protestant Countries are the best for Strangers to live in , the Protestant People are the Trading People of the World : therefore the Exile of the Protestants of France and Hungary would be less to their disadvantage , than the Papists of England , Ireland and Holland , who must apply themselves to Countries where there are few Manufactures , small Trade , and but very indifferent Means for a Stranger to live . So that the Popish Exiles would be in much the worse Circumstances : And there is no question , but whenever the Protestant Princes of Europe shall find it needful to use this Remedy , the Roman-Catholick Powers will find it for their Interest to make some Cartel , or Condition , upon which all their Subjects , though they are Protestants , may enjoy some sort of Liberty in their own Native Countries ; and so Persecution , as well as War , might end in an Universal Happy Peace to Europe , both in Matters of Religion , as well as Civil Affairs , which has so often been attempted by other Methods , to so little purpose . FINIS . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A48302-e120 Judg. i. 7.