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             Five severall papers delivered by the King to the commissioners at the treaty and six papers presented by them to His Majesty with an exact journall of the most remarkable passages of each day since the treaty began.
             Charles I, King of England, 1600-1649.
          
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             1648.
          
           
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           Five
           severall
           Papers
           ,
           Delivered
           by
           the
           KING
           TO
           THE
           Commissioners
           at
           the
           TREATY
           .
           AND
           
             Six
             papers
             presented
             by
             them
             to
             his
             Majesty
          
           WITH
           An
           exact
           Journall
           of
           the
           most
           remarkable
           passages
           of
           each
           day
           since
           the
           TREATY
           began
           .
        
         
           Die
           Sabbathi
           23.
           
           Septemb.
           1648.
           
           
             THese
             Papers
             are
             printed
             and
             published
             for
             satisfaction
             to
             the
             Kingdome
             ,
             and
             to
             prevent
             the
             false
             scandals
             reported
             about
             the
             Treaty
             .
          
           Severall
           Papers
           signed
           CHARLES
           REX
           .
        
         
         
           London
           Printed
           by
           
             Robert
             Ibbitson
             .
          
        
      
    
     
       
       
       
         
           AN
           Exact
           Journall
           of
           the
           most
           remarkable
           passages
           of
           each
           day
           since
           the
           Treaty
           began
           .
        
         
           
             Noble
             Sir
             ,
          
        
         
           ON
           Munday
           morning
           
             Sep.
          
           18.
           1648.
           
           The
           Lords
           and
           the
           rest
           of
           the
           Commissioners
           (
           after
           prayers
           with
           the
           Chaplaines
           ,
           who
           pray
           each
           of
           them
           by
           turnss
           ,
           one
           ,
           one
           weeke
           ,
           another
           ,
           another
           weeke
           Mr.
           
           
             Vines
          
           prayed
           this
           weeke
           )
           they
           went
           (
           but
           not
           the
           Chaplaines
           )
           to
           the
           place
           of
           the
           Treaty
           ,
           and
           sent
           word
           to
           His
           Majesty
           ,
           that
           they
           were
           come
           and
           ready
           to
           waite
           upon
           His
           Majesty
           at
           the
           Treaty
           :
           (
           this
           was
           about
           9
           a
           clocke
           in
           the
           morning
           .
           )
           The
           Commissioners
           were
           appointed
           a
           roome
           neere
           unto
           the
           Chamber
           where
           the
           Treaty
           is
           ,
           which
           is
           a
           withdrawing
           roome
           ,
           (
           in
           which
           is
           severall
           other
           roomes
           )
           untill
           his
           Majesty
           calls
           for
           them
           .
           The
           King
           is
           in
           one
           part
           of
           the
           House
           ,
           the
           other
           is
           reserved
           for
           the
           Commissioners
           when
           they
           come
           to
           the
           Treaty
           .
        
         
           Immediately
           after
           they
           were
           come
           ,
           and
           word
           brought
           to
           the
           King
           ,
           that
           the
           Commissioners
           were
           ready
           ,
           His
           Majesty
           passeth
           from
           Sir
           
             William
             Hodges
          
           to
           the
           Treaty
           in
           His
           Coach
           ,
           with
           the
           
           Lords
           and
           others
           that
           attend
           His
           Majesty
           ,
           and
           His
           Footmen
           ,
           and
           Coach-man
           ,
           with
           new
           suites
           laid
           with
           broad
           plate
           silver
           lace
           ,
           two
           in
           a
           Seame
           .
           His
           Majesty
           came
           into
           the
           Treaty
           Chamber
           ,
           where
           is
           a
           large
           table
           :
           At
           the
           upper
           end
           whereof
           is
           a
           Canopy
           and
           a
           Chaire
           of
           State
           for
           His
           Majesty
           ,
           where
           He
           sat
           downe
           .
        
         
           His
           Majesty
           being
           set
           ,
           sent
           out
           for
           the
           Commissioners
           into
           the
           Treaty
           Chamber
           ,
           who
           comming
           into
           His
           Majesties
           presence
           ,
           stood
           bare
           to
           the
           King
           .
           His
           Majesty
           bad
           them
           sit
           down
           at
           the
           table
           ,
           the
           Commissioners
           (
           very
           modestly
           )
           refused
           it
           at
           first
           ,
           but
           His
           Majesty
           pressing
           them
           ,
           they
           sat
           downe
           at
           the
           other
           end
           of
           the
           Table
           ,
           but
           all
           bare
           both
           the
           Lords
           and
           Commons
           .
           No body
           at
           all
           ,
           comes
           into
           the
           roome
           ,
           but
           the
           King
           alone
           ,
           and
           the
           Commissioners
           from
           the
           Parliament
           .
        
         
           That
           day
           they
           read
           their
           Commission
           (
           to
           the
           King
           in
           the
           morning
           )
           and
           other
           things
           in
           relation
           to
           the
           preparations
           of
           the
           Treaty
           ,
           which
           they
           fell
           upon
           in
           the
           afternoone
           .
        
         
           The
           King
           went
           to
           dinner
           to
           His
           Quarters
           ,
           and
           the
           Commissioners
           to
           theirs
           and
           in
           the
           afternoone
           fell
           to
           the
           Treaty
           againe
           ,
           and
           made
           some
           entrance
           ,
           and
           parted
           againe
           at
           night
           to
           their
           respective
           lodgings
           .
        
         
           
             
               Septemb.
               18.
               1648.
               
            
             The
             effect
             of
             His
             Majesties
             first
             paper
             .
          
           
             
               HIs
               Majesty
               desired
               the
               Propositions
               ,
               and
               Copy
               of
               their
               Instructions
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             
               Septemb.
               18.
               1648.
               
            
             The
             effect
             of
             the
             Commissioners
             Papers
             .
          
           
             The
             Commissioners
             first
             Paper
             .
          
           
             MAy
             it
             please
             your
             Majesty
             ;
             Having
             made
             knowne
             our
             Commission
             to
             treat
             personally
             with
             your
             Majesty
             ,
             upon
             the
             Propositions
             formerly
             presented
             at
             
               Hampton
               Court
               ,
            
             as
             they
             concern
             the
             Kingdomes
             of
             
               England
            
             and
             
               Ireland
               .
            
             And
             this
             Treaty
             to
             be
             for
             forty
             daies
             ,
             beginning
             this
             present
             ,
             and
             to
             proceed
             in
             the
             first
             place
             upon
             the
             Propositions
             following
             in
             order
             ,
             
             Viz.
             
             
               For
               recalling
               ,
               and
               annulling
               all
               Oathes
               ,
               Declarations
               ,
               &c.
               
               And
               to
               receive
               your
               Majesties
               Answer
               in
               writing
               .
            
             Wherefore
             we
             pray
             that
             nothing
             may
             be
             understood
             to
             bee
             binding
             of
             either
             side
             ,
             but
             what
             shall
             be
             so
             set
             down
             in
             writing
             .
             Accordingly
             wee
             are
             ready
             to
             present
             your
             Majesty
             a
             paper
             concerning
             that
             first
             proposition
             for
             
               Recalling
               Oathes
               ,
               Declarations
               ,
               &c.
               
            
          
           
             
               Signed
               by
               the
               Commissioners
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             His
             Majesties
             second
             Paper
             .
          
           
             
               Nothing
               to
               bee
               binding
               but
               what
               should
               be
               agreed
               upon
               in
               writing
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             The
             Commissioners
             second
             paper
             .
          
           
             Desiring
             his
             Majesty
             to
             give
             his
             Royall
             assent
             to
             this
             Proposition
             insuing
             :
             That
             whereas
             both
             Houses
             of
             Parliament
             have
             been
             necessitated
             to
             undertake
             a
             warre
             in
             their
             just
             and
             lawfull
             defence
             ,
             &c.
             
             An
             Act
             of
             Parliament
             may
             passe
             ,
             whereby
             all
             Oathes
             ,
             Declarations
             ,
             &c.
             against
             both
             or
             either
             Houses
             of
             Parliament
             ,
             or
             against
             any
             for
             adhering
             to
             them
             ,
             &c.
             to
             be
             declared
             null
             ,
             and
             that
             publiquely
             intimated
             in
             all
             Parish
             Churches
             ,
             in
             all
             your
             Majesties
             Dominions
             of
             
               England
            
             and
             
               Ireland
               ,
            
             &c.
             
          
        
         
           
             His
             Majesties
             third
             paper
             .
          
           
             
               His
               Majesty
               desired
               to
               have
               the
               Propositions
               of
               the
               
                 English
              
               and
               
                 Irish
              
               entirely
               together
               ,
               &c.
               
            
          
        
         
           
             The
             Commissioners
             third
             paper
             .
          
           
             VVe
             humbly
             Answer
             ,
             That
             the
             Propositions
             themselves
             were
             formerly
             presented
             to
             Your
             Majesty
             at
             
               Hampton
               Court
               ,
            
             we
             conceive
             are
             in
             Your
             Majesties
             hands
             ,
             excepting
             that
             of
             the
             Court
             of
             Wards
             ,
             delivered
             since
             in
             the
             Isle
             of
             
               Wyght
               ,
               &c.
            
             what
             concerns
             our
             instructions
             ,
             wee
             humbly
             say
             ,
             that
             wee
             have
             no
             Warrant
             from
             our
             Houses
             to
             deliver
             any
             Copy
             .
          
        
         
           
             The
             Commissioners
             fourth
             paper
             .
          
           
             As
             to
             the
             latter
             part
             of
             the
             second
             paper
             delivered
             in
             the
             morning
             ,
             we
             shall
             acquaint
             the
             Houses
             ,
             that
             no
             agreement
             put
             in
             writing
             ,
             be
             binding
             till
             the
             conclusion
             of
             the
             whole
             Treaty
             ,
             unlesse
             it
             shall
             be
             otherwise
             especially
             agreed
             .
          
        
         
           
             
               Tuesday
               Sep.
               19.
               
            
          
           
             THe
             King
             and
             the
             Commissioners
             met
             again
             in
             the
             same
             order
             that
             they
             had
             done
             the
             day
             before
             ,
             and
             Treated
             both
             forenoon
             and
             afternoone
             .
             None
             of
             them
             do
             go
             to
             the
             King
             at
             all
             ,
             but
             in
             the
             Treaty
             Chamber
             ,
             and
             altogether
             publickly
             at
             
             the
             Table
             ,
             where
             there
             are
             made
             many
             gallant
             Speechs
             ,
             insomuch
             that
             His
             Majesty
             gives
             them
             this
             Character
             ,
             
               That
               they
               are
               a
               company
               of
               very
               wise
               men
               .
            
             The
             King
             is
             very
             merry
             ,
             and
             free
             ,
             and
             hath
             such
             freedome
             that
             many
             resort
             to
             Him
             ,
             to
             the
             Court
             to
             kisse
             His
             hand
             ,
             but
             the
             Commissioners
             never
             go
             thither
             none
             of
             them
             ,
             since
             the
             first
             Saturday
             ,
             but
             daily
             meet
             His
             Majesty
             in
             the
             Treaty
             Chamber
             .
             That
             night
             the
             King
             and
             the
             Commissioners
             upon
             His
             Majesties
             desire
             ,
             adjourned
             untill
             Wednesday
             night
             .
          
        
         
           
             
               19
               September
               .
            
             The
             Substance
             of
             His
             Majesties
             fourth
             Paper
             .
          
           
             
               CHARLES
               R.
               
            
          
           
             In
             Answer
             to
             your
             Paper
             of
             the
             18th
             
               Sept.
            
             concerning
             the
             Recalling
             of
             all
             the
             Oathes
             ,
             Declarations
             and
             Proclamations
             heretofore
             in
             all
             ,
             or
             to
             be
             had
             ,
             against
             both
             or
             either
             Houses
             of
             Parliament
             or
             against
             any
             for
             adhering
             unto
             them
             ,
             or
             for
             doing
             ,
             or
             executing
             any
             Office
             ,
             Place
             or
             Charge
             by
             any
             Authority
             derived
             from
             them
             :
             And
             all
             judgements
             ,
             Inditements
             ,
             Outlawries
             and
             Inquisitions
             in
             any
             of
             the
             said
             Causes
             ,
             and
             all
             Grants
             thereupon
             ,
             made
             or
             had
             to
             be
             made
             or
             had
             ,
             be
             Declared
             null
             ,
             suppressed
             ,
             and
             forbidden
             ,
             and
             that
             this
             be
             publickly
             intimated
             in
             all
             Parish
             Churches
             ,
             and
             other
             places
             needfull
             ,
             within
             His
             Majesties
             Dominions
             of
             
               England
            
             and
             
               Ireland
               .
            
             His
             Majesty
             ,
             &c.
             Concerning
             that
             expression
             that
             both
             Houses
             of
             Parliament
             have
             been
             necessitated
             to
             undertake
             a
             War
             for
             their
             just
             defence
             ,
             &c.
             
          
        
         
           
             
               Sept.
               19.
               
            
             The
             Commissioners
             fifth
             Paper
             .
          
           
             For
             our
             giving
             the
             Propositions
             entirely
             together
             ,
             we
             finde
             not
             our selves
             warranted
             to
             present
             our
             desires
             concerning
             all
             the
             Propositions
             at
             once
             ,
             or
             in
             any
             sort
             to
             Treate
             them
             but
             in
             Order
             ,
             but
             what
             wee
             have
             drawne
             out
             for
             our
             owne
             use
             we
             shall
             give
             your
             Majesty
             to
             expedite
             the
             Treaty
             .
             And
             this
             draught
             is
             seperated
             from
             what
             concernes
             the
             Kingdome
             of
             
               Scotland
               .
            
             And
             this
             we
             do
             not
             in
             way
             of
             Treaty
             ,
             but
             out
             of
             desire
             to
             satisfie
             your
             Majesty
             ,
             &c.
             
             We
             humbly
             desire
             your
             Majesties
             Answer
             to
             our
             Paper
             delivered
             
             yesterday
             concerning
             the
             Proposition
             for
             Recalling
             all
             Oathes
             ,
             Declarations
             ,
             &c.
             
             And
             other
             proceedings
             thereupon
             against
             the
             Parliament
             ,
             or
             those
             that
             acted
             by
             their
             Authority
             .
          
        
         
           
             
               Wednesday
               Sep.
               20.
               
            
          
           
             MR.
             Recorder
             came
             hither
             ,
             from
             
               London
               ,
            
             and
             went
             with
             the
             Lords
             ,
             and
             the
             rest
             of
             the
             Commissioners
             to
             the
             Treaty
             in
             the
             afternoone
             .
             And
             they
             sat
             very
             close
             ,
             and
             debated
             matters
             very
             deep
             ,
             in
             all
             which
             the
             Commissioners
             argued
             so
             gallantly
             with
             His
             Majesty
             ,
             and
             gave
             such
             Reasons
             to
             every
             thing
             debated
             on
             ,
             that
             the
             King
             admired
             their
             wisdome
             and
             gravity
             .
             That
             night
             they
             adjourned
             untill
             Thursday
             in
             the
             afternoon
             .
             But
             His
             Majesty
             told
             the
             Commissioners
             that
             he
             was
             not
             certaine
             ,
             that
             he
             could
             then
             be
             ready
             ,
             but
             said
             that
             he
             would
             either
             come
             to
             them
             ,
             and
             proceed
             to
             Treat
             then
             ,
             or
             give
             them
             reasons
             why
             he
             could
             not
             come
             that
             night
             ,
             and
             then
             proceed
             to
             the
             Treaty
             on
             Friday
             .
          
           
             The
             busines
             that
             thus
             holds
             in
             Dispute
             is
             ,
             about
             the
             matter
             of
             the
             fault
             upon
             whom
             the
             guilt
             of
             the
             blood
             shed
             these
             wars
             shall
             bee
             laid
             ,
             and
             how
             as
             to
             freeing
             His
             Majesty
             ,
             which
             His
             Majesty
             would
             have
             done
             .
          
        
         
           
             His
             Majesties
             fifth
             Paper
             .
          
           
             His
             Majestie
             desired
             to
             know
             ,
             whither
             they
             had
             any
             power
             to
             consent
             to
             any
             Omissions
             or
             Alterations
             ,
             if
             upon
             a
             debate
             he
             should
             give
             Reasons
             to
             satisfie
             such
             Omissions
             or
             Alterations
             .
          
        
         
           
             
               Septem.
               20.
               
            
             The
             Commissioners
             sixt
             paper
             .
          
           
             Wee
             are
             ready
             by
             debate
             to
             shew
             how
             reasonable
             our
             desires
             are
             ,
             and
             there
             will
             be
             no
             reason
             that
             wee
             should
             alter
             or
             recede
             from
             them
             .
             But
             if
             in
             the
             matter
             
             of
             this
             ,
             or
             any
             other
             debate
             ,
             your
             Majesty
             give
             such
             reasons
             as
             shall
             satisfie
             us
             for
             any
             omissions
             or
             alterations
             in
             the
             papers
             we
             sent
             to
             your
             Majesty
             ,
             wee
             shall
             then
             doe
             therein
             as
             we
             are
             warranted
             by
             our
             Instructions
             ,
             which
             we
             have
             not
             power
             to
             make
             known
             ,
             as
             we
             have
             declared
             (
             in
             a
             former
             paper
             of
             the
             18
             of
             this
             instant
             )
             to
             your
             Majesty
             .
          
        
         
           
             
               Thursday
               Sep.
               21.
               
            
          
           
             HIS
             Majesty
             could
             not
             dispatch
             to
             be
             ready
             to
             Answer
             what
             was
             before
             propounded
             by
             the
             Commissioners
             ,
             and
             therefore
             put
             it
             off
             untill
             the
             next
             day
             .
             And
             His
             Majesty
             sent
             Answer
             by
             His
             Secretary
             ,
             that
             Hee
             could
             not
             meet
             the
             Commissioners
             that
             night
             ,
             and
             delivered
             in
             Reasons
             why
             Hee
             could
             not
             meet
             that
             afternoone
             .
          
           
             The
             Secretaries
             are
             admitted
             to
             be
             behind
             a
             Curtaine
             ,
             where
             they
             Treate
             ,
             in
             the
             time
             of
             the
             Treaty
             .
          
           
             There
             is
             as
             yet
             nothing
             denyed
             by
             the
             King
             to
             bee
             passed
             ;
             though
             nothing
             actually
             granted
             .
             But
             the
             great
             rub
             is
             not
             get
             removed
             .
             His
             Majesty
             is
             loath
             to
             charg
             Himselfe
             with
             the
             guilt
             of
             the
             blood
             spilt
             .
             The
             Commissioners
             are
             very
             faithfull
             to
             their
             Instructions
             .
             To
             morrow
             His
             Majesty
             puts
             in
             His
             Answer
             .
          
           
             
               Newport
               
                 21
                 Sep.
                 1648.
                 
              
            
          
           
             FINIS
             .