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             Heraclitus
             Ridens
             Redivivus
          
           :
           OR
           ,
           A
           DIALOGUE
           BETWEEN
           HARRY
           and
           ROGER
           ,
           Concerning
           the
           Times
           .
        
         
           
             Qui
             semel
             verecundiae
             fines
             transierint
             ,
             eos
             oportet
             gnaviter
             esse
             impudentes
             .
          
           
             Cicero
             .
          
        
         
           
             Harry
             .
          
           
             OH
             Sir
             ,
             I
             am
             glad
             to
             see
             you
             :
             what
             
               Anno
               aetatis
               suae
            
             72.
             and
             yet
             so
             brave
             and
             lusty
             ?
             having
             not
             of
             late
             seen
             any
             thing
             from
             you
             ,
             I
             was
             afraid
             that
             the
             difficulty
             of
             finding
             out
             Self-murderer
             ,
             had
             tempted
             you
             to
             make
             upon
             your self
             some
             fatal
             experiment
             ;
             like
             the
             Philosopher
             ,
             when
             he
             could
             not
             solve
             the
             motion
             of
             the
             Sea
             ,
             threw
             himself
             into
             it
             .
          
        
         
           
             Roger.
             
          
           
             I
             must
             confess
             ,
             Harry
             ,
             I
             have
             been
             of
             late
             (
             but
             much
             against
             my
             inclinations
             )
             very
             useless
             ;
             my
             talent
             and
             the
             present
             current
             of
             Affairs
             are
             diametrically
             opposite
             :
             had
             the
             Church
             of
             England
             men
             been
             our
             own
             ,
             I
             could
             have
             run
             divisions
             upon
             the
             Dissenters
             
               ad
               infinitum
            
             ;
             I
             would
             have
             proved
             them
             a
             pack
             of
             Rebels
             for
             a
             whole
             Century
             ;
             I
             would
             have
             made
             the
             last
             88
             to
             be
             of
             a
             plece
             with
             this
             ;
             and
             the
             Invincible
             Armada
             should
             have
             been
             believed
             to
             be
             no
             more
             than
             a
             Phanatick
             Conspiracy
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Nay
             the
             Dissenters
             are
             not
             at
             this
             time
             to
             be
             provoked
             .
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             That
             I
             am
             very
             sensible
             of
             ,
             and
             therefore
             I
             have
             endeavoured
             all
             I
             could
             to
             bring
             my self
             to
             speak
             for
             them
             ;
             but
             I
             find
             I
             do
             it
             so
             aukwardly
             ,
             that
             you
             would
             as
             soon
             cure
             the
             Rickets
             in
             one
             of
             my
             age
             ,
             as
             bring
             any
             thing
             of
             mine
             into
             shape
             that
             pleads
             for
             them
             :
             my
             Answer
             to
             the
             
               Letter
               to
               a
               Dissenter
            
             ,
             I
             hope
             ,
             was
             an
             ample
             specimen
             of
             my
             good
             will
             ;
             bút
             my
             wit
             lay
             so
             much
             the
             other
             way
             ,
             that
             my
             answer
             was
             looked
             upon
             to
             be
             the
             worst
             of
             the
             four
             and
             twenty
             ;
             besides
             
             my
             printing
             of
             the
             Letter
             at
             large
             ,
             made
             me
             in
             danger
             to
             be
             brought
             in
             as
             a
             disperser
             of
             the
             Libel
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             I
             must
             tell
             you
             ,
             
               Sir
               Roger
            
             ,
             that
             Answer
             with
             some
             other
             late
             Writings
             of
             yours
             ,
             has
             a
             little
             atton'd
             for
             your
             old
             Sins
             ;
             and
             tho
             the
             Dissenters
             do
             not
             look
             upon
             you
             as
             their
             best
             friend
             ;
             yet
             it
             has
             in
             some
             measure
             allayed
             the
             enmity
             between
             them
             and
             the
             Serpent
             .
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             Now
             you
             put
             me
             in
             mind
             .
             I
             think
             I
             have
             given
             the
             Dissenters
             in
             some
             of
             my
             last
             Observators
             a
             very
             pleasing
             farewel
             :
             If
             I
             be
             not
             mistaken
             ,
             I
             spoke
             notable
             things
             for
             the
             Toleration
             ;
             and
             were
             it
             not
             for
             the
             reproach
             of
             self-contradiction
             ,
             I
             could
             have
             said
             twenty
             times
             as
             much
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             What
             need
             you
             fear
             self-contradiction
             so
             much
             ?
             Cannot
             you
             say
             ,
             That
             
               upon
               a
               change
               of
               circumstances
               ,
               a
               man
               may
               likewise
               vary
               his
               judgment
               as
               to
               Toleration
               ,
               with
               a
               respect
               to
            
             hic
             &
             nunc
             ;
             
               [
               R.
            
             L's
             .
             Answer
             to
             the
             Letter
             to
             a
             Dissenter
             ,
             p.
             12.
             ]
             and
             what
             was
             abominable
             in
             one
             Reign
             ,
             may
             be
             Law
             and
             Gospel
             in
             another
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             You
             speak
             right
             ;
             to
             alter
             one's
             opinion
             ,
             tho
             at
             threescore
             and
             twelve
             ,
             I
             think
             ,
             is
             no
             very
             great
             blemish
             :
             But
             I
             that
             have
             so
             often
             challeng'd
             the
             World
             to
             discover
             
               two
               clashing
               Sentences
            
             in
             all
             my
             Writings
             ;
             that
             have
             carried
             my
             matters
             always
             so
             even
             ,
             that
             to
             discover
             
               one
               flaw
            
             in
             me
             ,
             was
             as
             difficult
             as
             to
             find
             out
             Sir
             
             Edmund-Bury-Godfrey's
             Murther
             :
             For
             me
             to
             speak
             home
             for
             Toleration
             ,
             would
             make
             it
             a
             harder
             task
             ,
             to
             find
             an
             agreement
             between
             my
             Works
             ,
             than
             it
             would
             be
             to
             reconcile
             the
             two
             Churches
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             What
             is
             't
             you
             have
             so
             unluckily
             said
             ,
             that
             will
             make
             it
             so
             heinous
             in
             you
             to
             write
             for
             Toleration
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             O
             I
             have
             spoke
             against
             the
             Dissenters
             such
             hard
             words
             ,
             that
             now
             I
             could
             willingly
             eat
             them
             ;
             but
             withal
             they
             are
             so
             full
             of
             Gall
             and
             bitterness
             ,
             that
             should
             I
             swallow
             them
             ,
             they
             were
             in
             danger
             to
             come
             up
             again
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             'T
             is
             but
             gilding
             them
             then
             ,
             Sir
             Roger
             ;
             a
             sew
             ,
             Presents
             from
             the
             Dissenting
             Party
             ,
             I
             suppose
             ,
             will
             make
             'em
             run
             down
             easily
             :
             But
             what
             are
             these
             cutting
             Expressions
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             Why
             among
             other
             things
             ,
             I
             have
             said
             ,
             That
             
               Liberty
               of
               Conscience
               was
               a
               Paradox
               against
               Law
               ,
               Reason
               ,
               Nature
               and
               Religion
               :
            
             [
             Obs.
             Vol.
             3.
             
             Numb
             .
             4●
             .
             ]
             and
             should
             I
             now
             unsay
             all
             this
             ,
             the
             Wags
             would
             make
             such
             work
             with
             me
             ,
             as
             I
             formerly
             did
             with
             Richard
             and
             Baxter
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Have
             you
             never
             an
             old
             Distinction
             then
             left
             to
             help
             you
             out
             at
             a
             dead
             lift
             ?
             I
             remember
             when
             I
             had
             occasion
             to
             consult
             your
             writings
             ,
             distinguishing
             was
             the
             best
             part
             of
             your
             talent
             .
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             That
             you
             must
             know
             I
             have
             already
             attempted
             ,
             when
             I
             perceived
             that
             an
             Indulgence
             was
             a
             brewing
             ;
             I
             thought
             it
             was
             high
             time
             for
             me
             to
             draw
             back
             ,
             and
             pull
             in
             my
             horns
             ;
             and
             therefore
             I
             immediately
             fell
             to
             work
             ;
             and
             split
             the
             hair
             .
             I
             artificially
             divided
             an
             Indulgence
             ,
             
               into
               an
               Indulgence
               granted
               and
               an
               Indulgence
               taken
               ;
               into
               an
               Indulgence
               that
               shall
               owe
               it self
               to
               the
               favour
               of
               the
               Prince
               ,
               and
               an
               Indulgence
               that
               shall
               be
               got
               by
               the
               importunities
               of
               the
               People
               :
            
             [
             Observ.
             Vol.
             3.
             
             Numb
             .
             43.
             ]
             By
             thus
             nicely
             distinguishing
             the
             matter
             ,
             I
             was
             in
             hopes
             to
             rescue
             the
             present
             Toleration
             from
             the
             stroaks
             of
             my
             former
             animadversions
             ;
             and
             in
             my
             Answer
             to
             the
             Letter
             to
             a
             Dissenter
             ,
             my
             telling
             the
             Dissenters
             that
             
               The
               Declaration
               of
               Indulgence
               ran
               to
               them
               ,
               and
               not
               they
               to
               the
               Declaration
               ,
            
             [
             Answ.
             to
             the
             Letter
             ,
             p.
             3.
             ]
             I
             think
             was
             a
             full
             Comment
             upon
             the
             Text
             as
             it
             stands
             thus
             divided
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Methinks
             ,
             Sir
             Roger
             ,
             this
             Distinction
             is
             very
             ridiculous
             ,
             and
             I
             can
             compare
             it
             to
             nothing
             more
             ,
             than
             to
             a
             Decree
             of
             the
             Council
             of
             Constance
             ,
             which
             ,
             I
             remember
             ever
             since
             I
             writ
             my
             Pacquet
             ,
             runs
             thus
             :
             Upon
             the
             Debate
             about
             the
             Communion
             in
             one
             kind
             ,
             it
             was
             ordered
             ,
             that
             when
             the
             Laity
             desired
             the
             Cup
             ,
             it
             was
             by
             all
             means
             to
             be
             denied
             them
             ;
             but
             if
             they
             would
             submit
             to
             the
             
               non
               obstante
            
             to
             our
             Saviour's
             Institution
             ,
             and
             
               not
               desire
            
             it
             ;
             then
             they
             might
             be
             allowed
             to
             partake
             of
             it
             :
             So
             that
             ,
             
               Ask
               and
               ye
               shall
               receive
            
             ,
             it
             seems
             is
             a
             Rule
             that
             will
             by
             no
             means
             hold
             in
             the
             case
             of
             Toleration
             .
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             I
             must
             confess
             I
             was
             there
             hard
             put
             to
             it
             ,
             and
             you
             may
             be
             sure
             ,
             that
             't
             was
             not
             willingly
             that
             I
             took
             my
             leave
             so
             abruptly
             of
             the
             Observator
             ,
             and
             went
             trailing
             ,
             like
             a
             Blood
             hound
             ,
             after
             the
             Murder
             of
             Sir
             
               E.
               B.
               G.
            
             
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Let
             Murder
             alone
             ,
             when
             all
             comes
             to
             all
             ,
             't
             is
             but
             saying
             that
             he
             was
             a
             Heretick
             ,
             and
             then
             Killing
             you
             know
             is
             no
             Murder
             .
             Our
             business
             must
             now
             be
             to
             get
             off
             the
             
               Penal
               Laws
            
             .
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             Penal
             Laws
             !
             Had
             my
             endeavours
             succeeded
             ,
             they
             should
             have
             been
             kept
             up
             to
             the
             end
             of
             the
             Chapter
             ,
             ay
             and
             as
             tight
             too
             as
             any
             Fiddle-string
             :
             cou'd
             I
             but
             have
             brought
             over
             the
             Church
             of
             England
             men
             ,
             our
             business
             had
             been
             done
             ;
             and
             I
             think
             I
             drew
             as
             good
             a
             Scheme
             for
             accommodation
             ,
             as
             ever
             Cassander
             did
             ,
             or
             
             the
             Bishop
             of
             Spalato
             :
             Had
             that
             project
             took
             ,
             the
             
               Penal
               Laws
            
             wou'd
             have
             been
             as
             useful
             to
             us
             as
             the
             Inquisition
             ;
             and
             then
             I
             had
             boldly
             affirmed
             ,
             That
             
               neither
               the
               Church
               of
            
             England
             ,
             
               nor
               the
               Members
               of
               the
               Church
               of
            
             Rome
             ,
             
               cou'd
               be
               joyn'd
               in
               a
               Toleration
               with
               the
               Phanaticks
               ,
               but
               with
               the
               certain
               ruin
               of
               both
               .
            
             [
             Obs.
             Vol.
             3.
             
             Num.
             134.
             ]
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             These
             Church
             of
             England
             men
             are
             very
             obstinate
             .
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             Ay
             ,
             and
             perverse
             too
             ;
             insomuch
             that
             you
             would
             as
             soon
             perswade
             the
             Pope
             to
             part
             with
             the
             Franchises
             ,
             as
             bring
             them
             to
             pray
             to
             the
             People
             in
             an
             unknown
             tongue
             .
             T'other
             day
             a
             Friend
             of
             ours
             (
             I
             suppose
             after
             reading
             my
             Project
             of
             Accommodation
             )
             asked
             a
             Church-man
             ;
             in
             case
             the
             Church
             of
             Rome
             should
             give
             up
             Transubstantiation
             ,
             what
             would
             the
             Church
             of
             England
             part
             with
             in
             order
             to
             a
             reconciliation
             :
             And
             what
             dost
             think
             the
             Church-man
             offered
             in
             exchange
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Why
             ,
             the
             nine
             and
             thirty
             Articles
             ,
             I
             suppose
             .
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             I
             protest
             only
             
               Passive
               Obedience
            
             ;
             and
             I
             wou'd
             no
             more
             take
             that
             Principle
             from
             them
             ;
             than
             I
             wou'd
             unshackle
             a
             Mad-man
             .
             Passive
             valor
             is
             a
             virtue
             I
             love
             in
             an
             Enemy
             ;
             and
             't
             is
             as
             necessa
             y
             for
             our
             preservation
             that
             they
             hold
             this
             Doctrin
             ,
             as
             't
             is
             for
             the
             Grand
             Seignior
             that
             a
             Bassa
             believes
             that
             of
             Fatality
             ,
             when
             he
             is
             to
             undergo
             the
             disclpline
             of
             the
             Bow-string
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             I
             give
             the
             Church
             of
             England
             men
             for
             lost
             ;
             and
             therefore
             for
             my
             part
             ,
             my
             Province
             shall
             be
             to
             gain
             the
             Dissenters
             ,
             I
             think
             the
             wind
             blows
             fairest
             from
             that
             side
             .
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             Prithee
             ,
             Harry
             ,
             how
             cam'st
             thee
             to
             be
             either
             beloved
             by
             the
             Papists
             ,
             or
             believed
             by
             the
             Dissenters
             ?
             I
             am
             sure
             you
             have
             spoke
             as
             severe
             things
             of
             the
             Papists
             ,
             as
             ever
             I
             did
             of
             the
             Phanaticks
             ,
             and
             yet
             by
             a
             sudden
             turn
             you
             are
             become
             as
             gracious
             ,
             as
             if
             you
             were
             a
             Convert
             of
             some
             considerable
             standing
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             I
             perceive
             you
             don
             't
             understand
             the
             virtue
             of
             Holy
             Water
             ;
             this
             powerful
             sprinkling
             will
             immediately
             restore
             a
             man
             to
             the
             state
             of
             Innocence
             :
             Had
             Adam
             but
             known
             this
             easie
             receipt
             ,
             he
             would
             never
             have
             been
             at
             the
             expence
             of
             Fig-leaves
             .
             You
             must
             know
             I
             have
             all
             my
             old
             sins
             forgiven
             me
             ,
             and
             I
             am
             now
             as
             clean
             as
             if
             I
             had
             been
             over
             head
             and
             ears
             in
             Iordan
             .
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             But
             all
             thy
             washing
             will
             not
             clear
             thy
             contradictions
             ;
             thy
             
               Pacquet
               of
               Advice
            
             and
             the
             
               weekly
               Occurrences
            
             are
             as
             opposite
             as
             Fire
             and
             Water
             ;
             and
             I
             wonder
             how
             thou
             canst
             so
             shamefully
             prevaricate
             ,
             without
             one
             single
             blush
             to
             alter
             thy
             complexion
             .
             When
             I
             was
             press'd
             hard
             with
             my
             former
             Opinions
             ,
             I
             set
             off
             the
             false
             Coin
             with
             some
             plausible
             Varnish
             ,
             and
             alwaies
             distinguished
             where
             I
             could
             not
             sairly
             deny
             ,
             but
             thou
             wou'dst
             fain
             cheat
             even
             in
             spite
             of
             daylight
             ;
             thy
             juggle
             is
             so
             easily
             detected
             ,
             that
             by
             thus
             
               openly
               publishing
            
             thy
             Shame
             ;
             one
             wou'd
             think
             this
             task
             was
             given
             thee
             ,
             not
             so
             much
             that
             thy
             Masters
             had
             need
             of
             thy
             pains
             ,
             as
             to
             oblige
             thee
             to
             a
             Penance
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Puh
             ,
             Sir
             Roger
             ,
             you
             know
             words
             are
             wind
             ,
             and
             why
             should
             one
             no
             more
             than
             t'other
             be
             tied
             to
             one
             point
             of
             the
             Compass
             ;
             he
             that
             can
             turn
             and
             double
             upon
             a
             Stage
             ,
             is
             alwaies
             applauded
             for
             his
             performance
             ;
             and
             why
             may
             not
             a
             dexterous
             change
             of
             Opinion
             be
             as
             much
             commended
             for
             the
             activity
             of
             the
             Brain
             ,
             as
             the
             other
             is
             for
             the
             agility
             of
             Body
             .
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             In
             troth
             ,
             Harry
             ,
             I
             must
             confess
             thy
             Brain
             is
             of
             a
             very
             singular
             constitution
             ,
             and
             thy
             late
             Writings
             are
             such
             Originals
             ,
             that
             for
             my
             part
             ,
             I
             think
             thou
             deservest
             to
             have
             a
             Patent
             for
             Scribling
             ;
             thou
             art
             of
             late
             the
             very
             Darling
             of
             the
             Papists
             ,
             and
             thou
             carriest
             on
             the
             business
             of
             Rome
             so
             vigorously
             ,
             that
             I
             do
             not
             doubt
             in
             a
             short
             time
             to
             see
             thee
             Secretary
             to
             the
             Conclave
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Why
             ,
             I
             believe
             I
             do
             them
             no
             small
             service
             with
             my
             Occurrences
             ;
             I
             take
             from
             them
             the
             odium
             of
             Persecuti●n
             ,
             by
             fixing
             it
             upon
             the
             Church
             of
             England
             ;
             I
             fill
             the
             Peoples
             heads
             so
             full
             with
             
               Penal
               Laws
            
             ,
             that
             there
             is
             no
             room
             left
             for
             the
             Inquisition
             ;
             and
             if
             any
             one
             blabs
             about
             Q.
             Marys
             days
             ,
             I
             immediately
             stop
             his
             mouth
             with
             the
             thirty
             fifth
             of
             Elizabeth
             .
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             But
             you
             are
             very
             frugal
             in
             giving
             Instances
             of
             the
             Severitities
             of
             the
             Church
             of
             England
             ,
             not
             above
             one
             in
             a
             Paper
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             You
             must
             know
             he
             that
             has
             not
             much
             Butter
             ,
             must
             spread
             it
             thin
             ;
             I
             must
             make
             the
             most
             of
             what
             I
             have
             ,
             for
             I
             am
             afraid
             hereafter
             I
             am
             not
             like
             to
             have
             from
             that
             side
             any
             more
             Examples
             :
             But
             if
             you
             observed
             ,
             I
             manage
             matters
             to
             the
             
               best
               advantage
            
             :
             When
             once
             upon
             a
             time
             ,
             there
             was
             taken
             from
             a
             Quaker
             
               a
               Warming-pan
               for
               the
               Church
               dues
            
             ;
             I
             put
             in
             a
             notable
             innuendo
             ,
             and
             hinted
             that
             't
             was
             then
             
               cold
               weather
            
             ;
             what
             think
             you
             ,
             may
             not
             that
             be
             called
             the
             
               Warming-pan
               Persecution
            
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             Ay
             that
             was
             indeed
             hot
             and
             firy
             ,
             to
             take
             a
             Warming-pan
             from
             a
             Quaker
             ,
             was
             a
             little
             too
             unchristian
             ,
             whom
             not
             only
             the
             Season
             ,
             
             but
             his
             Religion
             obliged
             to
             frequent
             fits
             of
             shaking
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             And
             now
             you
             talk
             of
             your
             distinguishing
             ,
             I
             think
             I
             have
             had
             lately
             a
             notable
             fetch
             that
             way
             too
             :
             When
             I
             had
             in
             one
             of
             my
             Occurrences
             accused
             
               the
               Clergy
               of
            
             London
             
               of
               cheating
               the
               Poor
               of
            
             Sion
             
               Colledge
               ,
               in
               keeping
               from
               them
               the
               Charity
               of
               their
               Founder
               .
            
             [
             Occur
             .
             Numb
             .
             11.
             ]
             And
             the
             malice
             and
             falshood
             of
             my
             accusation
             being
             unluckily
             published
             ,
             I
             was
             hard
             put
             to
             it
             to
             avoid
             the
             Charge
             of
             Evil
             Speaking
             ,
             Lying
             ,
             and
             Slandering
             ;
             therefore
             in
             my
             next
             Paper
             
               I
               did
               protest
               ,
               that
               in
               my
               former
               Story
               ,
               I
               did
               not
               intend
               to
               reflect
               upon
               the
            
             London
             Clergy
             :
             [
             Occur
             .
             Num.
             12.
             ]
             So
             that
             here
             is
             the
             Clergy
             of
             London
             ,
             and
             the
             London
             Clergy
             make
             up
             a
             very
             serviceable
             Distinction
             .
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             Your
             Occurrences
             then
             I
             perceive
             are
             to
             insult
             over
             the
             Church
             of
             England
             ,
             and
             thereby
             to
             divert
             the
             Papists
             and
             gain
             the
             Dissenters
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             You
             are
             in
             the
             right
             on
             't
             ;
             this
             Church
             of
             England
             you
             know
             is
             our
             greatest
             obstacle
             ;
             it
             vexes
             me
             to
             think
             that
             an
             Heretical
             Church
             shou'd
             be
             by
             
               Law
               established
            
             ;
             these
             Laws
             are
             such
             unlucky
             ways
             of
             fortifying
             ,
             that
             they
             stand
             more
             in
             our
             way
             than
             Walls
             and
             Bastions
             .
             Could
             we
             but
             once
             level
             their
             Works
             ,
             you
             would
             not
             find
             it
             long
             before
             we
             fell
             to
             storming
             ,
             and
             I
             think
             we
             have
             already
             made
             some
             considerable
             advances
             .
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             And
             do
             the
             Dissenters
             come
             on
             kindly
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Why
             truly
             some
             of
             them
             are
             pretty
             forward
             ,
             and
             we
             favour
             them
             accordingly
             ;
             we
             do
             as
             the
             Patriarch
             did
             of
             old
             ,
             he
             that
             comes
             in
             first
             receives
             the
             Blessing
             ;
             if
             they
             promise
             fairly
             ,
             then
             we
             place
             them
             in
             convenient
             stations
             ,
             we
             put
             them
             in
             such
             posts
             that
             are
             something
             for
             their
             honour
             ,
             as
             well
             as
             for
             
               our
               use
            
             .
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             I
             must
             confess
             for
             my
             part
             ,
             I
             am
             not
             for
             advancing
             the
             Dissenters
             too
             much
             ;
             and
             tho
             I
             cannot
             but
             approve
             of
             their
             present
             behaviour
             ,
             yet
             I
             am
             not
             for
             trusting
             them
             too
             far
             ,
             for
             they
             are
             slippery
             creatures
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Trusting
             them
             quoth
             a
             !
             Why
             who
             does
             ?
             Have
             you
             ever
             seen
             a
             Dissenter
             at
             the
             head
             of
             a
             Regiment
             ?
             have
             you
             ever
             heard
             that
             any
             of
             them
             was
             made
             Lieutenant
             of
             the
             Tower
             ,
             or
             Governour
             of
             a
             Garrison
             ?
             The
             Offices
             they
             are
             generally
             put
             into
             ,
             are
             places
             of
             Expence
             and
             not
             Profit
             .
             If
             any
             of
             them
             has
             a
             Mandat
             to
             be
             Mayor
             or
             Alderman
             of
             a
             Town
             ;
             he
             is
             so
             precarious
             in
             his
             Office
             ,
             that
             he
             dares
             not
             make
             one
             false
             step
             upon
             pain
             of
             another
             Regulation
             :
             and
             withal
             they
             commonly
             act
             in
             conjunction
             with
             Papists
             ;
             so
             that
             they
             are
             no
             more
             than
             Under-Workmen
             ,
             they
             are
             only
             employed
             ,
             not
             trusted
             .
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             Here
             is
             a
             Dissenter
             coming
             ;
             I
             guess
             he
             comes
             to
             beg
             your
             assistance
             ,
             Harry
             ,
             either
             to
             present
             an
             Address
             ,
             or
             to
             get
             a
             Commission
             to
             regulate
             some
             stubborn
             Corporation
             .
             He
             looks
             as
             if
             he
             had
             a
             spite
             to
             the
             Tests
             and
             Penal
             Laws
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Let
             me
             alone
             ,
             I
             'll
             warrant
             you
             I
             manage
             him
             to
             advantage
             ,
             and
             if
             I
             do
             not
             make
             him
             as
             rank
             a
             Repealer
             as
             any
             is
             in
             England
             ,
             I
             'll
             forseit
             all
             the
             gain
             of
             my
             Occurrences
             .
          
        
         
           
             Rog.
             
          
           
             Well
             I
             'll
             take
             my
             leave
             of
             you
             ;
             and
             at
             our
             next
             meeting
             shall
             expect
             an
             account
             of
             your
             Transactions
             ,
             and
             in
             what
             forwardness
             Affairs
             stand
             for
             a
             Parliament
             .
             Farewel
             .
          
        
         
           
             Enter
             an
             
               Honest
               Dissenter
            
             .
          
        
         
           
             Dissenter
             .
          
           
             Gentlemen
             ,
             I
             am
             sorry
             I
             have
             disturbed
             you
             ,
             and
             that
             I
             should
             be
             the
             occasion
             of
             breaking
             up
             so
             choice
             and
             select
             a
             meeting
             .
             My
             business
             is
             only
             with
             you
             ,
             Harry
             ,
             and
             not
             so
             urgent
             neither
             ,
             but
             that
             I
             can
             retire
             ,
             and
             call
             upon
             you
             at
             your
             leisure
             .
          
        
         
           
             Harry
             .
          
           
             Sir
             ,
             you
             are
             heartily
             welcome
             ,
             I
             am
             never
             so
             engaged
             ,
             but
             that
             I
             am
             always
             ready
             to
             wait
             upon
             a
             Person
             of
             your
             Character
             .
             Your's
             I
             am
             sure
             is
             
               publick
               business
            
             ;
             and
             since
             I
             have
             not
             of
             late
             seen
             your
             hand
             to
             an
             Address
             ,
             I
             doubt
             not
             but
             you
             come
             now
             at
             least
             some
             hundreds
             strong
             .
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             That
             is
             not
             at
             present
             my
             business
             .
             You
             must
             know
             ,
             there
             is
             a
             
               small
               place
            
             in
             his
             Majesties
             service
             lately
             fall'n
             vacant
             ,
             which
             lies
             so
             conveniently
             in
             my
             neighbourhood
             ,
             that
             as
             it
             may
             not
             be
             of
             such
             advantage
             to
             another
             ,
             so
             no
             one
             perhaps
             can
             so
             easily
             attend
             the
             duty
             with
             so
             much
             diligence
             as
             my self
             ;
             and
             therefore
             since
             I
             am
             told
             ,
             that
             now
             all
             Offices
             are
             disposed
             of
             
               without
               distinction
            
             ;
             I
             hope
             by
             virtue
             of
             former
             acquaintance
             ,
             I
             may
             beg
             your
             interest
             on
             my
             behalf
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Before
             I
             can
             appear
             your
             Friend
             ,
             you
             must
             answer
             me
             first
             to
             some
             few
             Questions
             ;
             for
             no
             man
             must
             expect
             his
             Reward
             ,
             before
             he
             can
             say
             his
             Catechism
             .
             
               Will
               you
               ,
               whenever
               there
               is
               a
               Parliament
               call'd
               ,
               endeavour
               to
               choose
               such
               men
               as
               will
               take
               off
               the
               Tests
               and
               Penal
               Laws
               ?
            
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             What
             is
             the
             meaning
             of
             this
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             You
             must
             know
             then
             ,
             that
             no
             one
             Is
             to
             be
             either
             promoted
             to
             ,
             or
             continued
             in
             an
             Office
             ,
             
             who
             will
             not
             answer
             affirmatively
             to
             this
             Question
             .
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             Why
             this
             is
             encountring
             Test
             with
             Test
             ,
             setting
             one
             nail
             to
             drive
             out
             another
             ;
             if
             a
             man
             be
             not
             qualified
             for
             an
             Office
             but
             upon
             such
             conditions
             :
             You
             seem
             to
             set
             up
             as
             hard
             things
             as
             those
             you
             would
             have
             abrogated
             .
             For
             what
             is
             the
             difference
             between
             your
             obliging
             a
             man
             to
             abjure
             the
             Test
             ,
             and
             the
             Laws
             requiring
             him
             to
             renounce
             Transubstantiation
             ?
             but
             only
             this
             ,
             that
             for
             my
             part
             I
             think
             renouncing
             Transubstantiation
             to
             be
             the
             more
             innocent
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             There
             is
             a
             greater
             difference
             than
             you
             may
             imagin
             :
             for
             the
             Declaration
             that
             is
             required
             by
             the
             Law
             is
             a
             violence
             to
             a
             Man's
             conscience
             ;
             't
             is
             obliging
             him
             to
             renounce
             an
             Article
             of
             his
             Faith
             ;
             whereas
             the
             Tests
             are
             matters
             purely
             political
             :
             they
             were
             
               promoted
               by
               a
               Faction
            
             ,
             and
             designed
             only
             to
             gratifie
             
               a
               Party
               ,
               which
               is
               pleased
               to
               call
               it self
            
             the
             Church
             of
             England
             .
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             Hold
             there
             ,
             Harry
             ,
             these
             words
             are
             something
             too
             severe
             ;
             let
             me
             tell
             you
             ,
             you
             cannot
             make
             the
             enacting
             of
             these
             Laws
             to
             be
             the
             business
             of
             a
             Faction
             ,
             without
             putting
             the
             late
             King
             and
             his
             Parliament
             at
             the
             very
             head
             on
             't
             ;
             and
             it
             does
             not
             become
             you
             to
             speak
             so
             irreverently
             of
             a
             
               Crowned
               Head
            
             ,
             thô
             it
             lies
             in
             ashes
             .
             But
             suppose
             a
             man
             shou'd
             believe
             in
             his
             conscience
             ,
             that
             the
             Tests
             are
             a
             great
             security
             to
             the
             
               Protestant
               Religion
            
             ,
             and
             that
             the
             consequence
             of
             repealing
             them
             will
             be
             the
             introducing
             of
             Popery
             ;
             (
             as
             I
             must
             necessarily
             think
             of
             those
             many
             Noble
             and
             worthy
             Gentlemen
             ,
             who
             lately
             lost
             their
             Employments
             upon
             this
             very
             question
             )
             is
             not
             the
             turning
             of
             such
             a
             one
             out
             of
             his
             Office
             ,
             which
             perhaps
             is
             his
             whole
             subsistence
             ,
             for
             not
             consenting
             to
             repeal
             these
             Tests
             ,
             not
             only
             a
             privative
             ,
             but
             according
             to
             your
             wise
             distinction
             ,
             
               a
               positive
               inflicting
               of
               penalties
               on
               the
               score
               of
               conscience
               ?
            
             [
             Occur
             .
             Numb
             .
             9.
             ]
             For
             is
             not
             he
             that
             thinks
             his
             whole
             Religion
             to
             be
             in
             danger
             ,
             as
             much
             concerned
             in
             his
             conscience
             ,
             as
             another
             that
             is
             so
             tender
             of
             one
             
               single
               Article
            
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             But
             these
             are
             groundless
             apprehensions
             :
             the
             Protestant
             Religion
             will
             be
             secure
             without
             these
             Tests
             ;
             and
             I
             have
             over
             and
             over
             proved
             that
             they
             are
             but
             Mud-Walls
             .
             Surely
             you
             have
             never
             seen
             my
             Occurrences
             .
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             Ay
             that
             I
             have
             ,
             and
             at
             the
             same
             time
             that
             I
             could
             laugh
             at
             your
             Jests
             ,
             I
             was
             offended
             at
             your
             scurrilities
             :
             and
             now
             you
             put
             me
             in
             mind
             ,
             I
             have
             seen
             your
             
               Pacquet
               of
               Advice
               from
               Rome
            
             too
             :
             there
             I
             remember
             you
             say
             ,
             
               That
               no
               mortal
               man
               can
               embrace
               or
               countenance
               the
            
             Popish
             Religion
             ,
             
               but
               either
               a
               designing
               Knave
               ,
               or
               a
               cajol'd
               self-will'd
               Fool.
            
             [
             Pacq.
             vol.
             3.
             p.
             15.
             ]
             Now
             I
             cannot
             believe
             that
             you
             look
             upon
             either
             of
             these
             Characters
             to
             be
             very
             honourable
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             I
             wou'd
             have
             the
             Papists
             be
             admitted
             into
             Offices
             as
             well
             as
             other
             Subjects
             ;
             
               and
               they
               may
               sometimes
               happen
               to
               have
               better
               abilities
               to
               serve
               their
               King
               and
               Country
               ,
               than
               those
               that
               wou'd
               exclude
               them
               .
            
             [
             Occur
             .
             Numb
             .
             9.
             ]
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             Certainly
             ,
             Harry
             ,
             thou
             art
             made
             up
             either
             of
             Knavery
             or
             Forgetfulness
             ;
             thô
             I
             am
             afraid
             Knavery
             is
             the
             chief
             ingredient
             in
             thy
             composition
             .
             Have
             not
             you
             said
             in
             your
             Pacquet
             ,
             that
             
               you
               cou'd
               wish
               we
               were
               fairly
               rid
               of
               two
               and
               fifty
               thousand
               Papists
               ,
               and
               yet
               you
               believed
               ,
               and
               durst
               undertake
               to
               prove
               the
               King
               should
               not
               lose
               one
               good
               Subject
               by
               the
               Bargain
               .
            
             [
             Pacq.
             vol.
             1.
             p
             143.
             ]
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             You
             shou'd
             not
             so
             spitesully
             recollect
             my
             former
             Opinions
             ;
             you
             shou'd
             consider
             not
             so
             much
             my
             
               old
               faults
            
             ,
             as
             my
             
               present
               arguments
            
             ;
             and
             if
             my
             carriage
             at
             this
             time
             may
             make
             you
             entertain
             any
             hard
             thoughts
             of
             my
             person
             :
             thô
             you
             may
             not
             believe
             the
             man
             ,
             yet
             I
             hope
             you
             will
             be
             convinced
             by
             his
             reasons
             .
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             Why
             truly
             whenever
             I
             see
             a
             forehead
             of
             Brass
             ,
             I
             am
             apt
             to
             believe
             ,
             that
             what
             is
             within
             is
             of
             no
             better
             mettal
             .
             To
             be
             
               always
               false
            
             and
             shifting
             ,
             is
             methinks
             a
             temper
             so
             mean
             and
             creeping
             ,
             so
             very
             like
             the
             race
             of
             the
             Serpent
             ,
             that
             to
             be
             overcome
             by
             such
             a
             one's
             insinuation
             ,
             is
             not
             to
             be
             perswaded
             but
             betrayed
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Is
             it
             not
             
               unreasonable
               that
               the
               Papists
               should
               be
               debarred
               of
               those
               priviledges
               and
               advantages
               which
               they
               are
               born
               to
               ?
            
             And
             
               since
               they
               are
               under
               an
               equal
               obligation
               of
               duty
               with
               other
               Subjects
               ,
               why
               should
               not
               they
               have
               the
               same
               right
               ?
            
             as
             't
             is
             in
             other
             Countries
             ,
             where
             Protestants
             and
             Papists
             have
             an
             equal
             share
             in
             the
             government
             .
             
               [
               Occur
            
             .
             Numb
             .
             9
             ]
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             Prithee
             shew
             me
             but
             one
             Country
             where
             there
             are
             but
             four
             Papists
             to
             one
             Protestant
             ,
             and
             the
             Protestants
             allowed
             to
             enjoy
             equal
             priviledges
             with
             the
             Papists
             :
             If
             this
             cannot
             be
             done
             ,
             why
             then
             should
             the
             Papists
             of
             our
             Nation
             look
             upon
             it
             as
             unequal
             dealing
             in
             this
             government
             to
             keep
             them
             from
             Offices
             ,
             when
             their
             number
             is
             not
             as
             yet
             perhaps
             above
             one
             in
             
               two
               hundred
            
             ?
             unless
             they
             assume
             some
             extraordinary
             priviledges
             to
             their
             persons
             ,
             as
             well
             as
             their
             Religion
             ;
             and
             pretend
             that
             their
             very
             Civil
             Rights
             are
             Catholick
             .
          
        
         
           
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             But
             these
             Test-Laws
             are
             unjust
             :
             they
             
               set
               up
               an
               Inquisition
               into
               mens
               thoughts
               ,
               put
               their
               Souls
               on
               the
               Rack
               ;
               so
               that
               a
               Papist
               must
               either
               starve
               or
               violate
               his
               Conscience
               .
            
             [
             ibid.
             ]
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             I
             perceive
             ,
             Harry
             ,
             your
             compassion
             leans
             much
             on
             the
             Popish
             side
             ;
             and
             you
             do
             not
             seem
             much
             concerned
             ,
             whether
             a
             Protestant
             dies
             in
             his
             Bed
             ,
             or
             on
             a
             Dunghill
             ,
             for
             if
             the
             
               loss
               of
               imployments
            
             be
             an
             infallible
             symptom
             of
             starving
             ;
             I
             am
             afraid
             there
             will
             be
             found
             of
             late
             more
             
               Church
               of
               England
               men
            
             put
             into
             those
             uneasie
             circumstances
             ,
             than
             there
             are
             Papists
             of
             any
             note
             in
             the
             whole
             Nation
             .
             And
             since
             you
             would
             perswade
             us
             ,
             that
             the
             grand
             project
             is
             to
             employ
             all
             men
             equally
             ,
             without
             any
             regard
             to
             their
             perswasions
             ;
             methinks
             it
             does
             not
             at
             all
             become
             you
             in
             policy
             ,
             to
             give
             such
             early
             instances
             of
             partiality
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Are
             not
             there
             Church
             of
             E●gland
             men
             preferred
             as
             well
             as
             other
             men
             ?
             do
             not
             you
             see
             them
             daily
             made
             Deans
             ,
             and
             Bishops
             ,
             &c.
             
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             So
             have
             I
             seen
             Bulls
             and
             Bears
             wear
             Top-knots
             ;
             but
             I
             presume
             they
             would
             never
             have
             gone
             to
             the
             expence
             of
             adorning
             the
             Brutes
             ,
             were
             it
             not
             on
             purpose
             to
             expose
             the
             fashion
             .
             Prithee
             ,
             Harry
             ,
             there
             are
             Knaves
             of
             all
             persuasions
             ,
             and
             the
             Church
             as
             well
             as
             the
             Barn
             breeds
             Vermin
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Why
             are
             you
             so
             much
             afraid
             of
             Papists
             being
             put
             into
             publick
             Employments
             ?
             I
             'll
             assure
             you
             they
             are
             not
             such
             men
             as
             you
             doe
             imagine
             ;
             and
             whosoever
             says
             they
             are
             bloody
             and
             cruel
             ,
             foully
             misrepresents
             them
             ,
             and
             does
             not
             draw
             them
             in
             their
             proper
             colours
             .
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             Pray
             ,
             Harry
             ,
             how
             long
             have
             you
             had
             such
             a
             favourable
             opinion
             of
             their
             good
             nature
             ?
             what
             ,
             
               are
               all
               the
               holy
               Candles
               out
               ,
               that
               you
               formerly
               told
               us
               ,
               were
               made
               of
               Protestant
               Grease
               at
               the
               Irish
               Massacre
               ?
            
             [
             Pacq.
             Nov.
             19.
             1680.
             ]
             Are
             there
             no
             Popish
             Fires
             but
             that
             which
             burnt
             the
             City
             ?
             Or
             have
             the
             
               French
               Protestants
            
             think
             you
             ,
             left
             their
             Estates
             and
             come
             over
             only
             for
             the
             advantage
             of
             a
             Collection
             ?
             These
             are
             too
             bitter
             things
             ,
             Harry
             ,
             to
             be
             so
             easily
             digested
             :
             and
             if
             I
             be
             not
             much
             mistaken
             ,
             I
             can
             shew
             you
             that
             some
             of
             them
             are
             bound
             by
             Oaths
             to
             give
             
               Hereticks
               no
               better
               quarter
            
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Surely
             there
             is
             no
             such
             thing
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             I
             do
             assure
             you
             I
             had
             it
             from
             a
             very
             substantial
             Author
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Pray
             who
             is
             it
             ?
             I
             'll
             warrant
             you
             one
             of
             our
             modern
             Misrepresenters
             .
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             No
             I
             'll
             assure
             you
             ;
             I
             had
             it
             from
             the
             worthy
             Author
             of
             the
             
               Pacquet
               of
               Advice
               from
               Rome
            
             ;
             and
             certainly
             he
             must
             needs
             know
             best
             what
             was
             done
             there
             ,
             where
             he
             kept
             his
             weekly
             correspondence
             .
             'T
             is
             the
             Oath
             ,
             which
             all
             Popish
             Bishops
             take
             at
             the
             time
             of
             their
             Consecration
             :
             My
             Author
             has
             it
             at
             large
             ,
             but
             I
             shall
             here
             only
             give
             you
             the
             Clause
             of
             it
             .
             
               And
               all
               Hereticks
               ,
               Schismaticks
               ,
               and
               such
               as
               rebel
               against
               our
               Lord
               the
               Pope
               ,
               or
               his
               Successors
               ,
               I
               shall
               to
               the
               uttermost
               of
               my
               power
               ,
               persecute
               ,
               impugn
               ,
               and
               condemn
               .
            
             So
             help
             me
             
               &c.
               
               [
               Pacq.
            
             Jan.
             30.
             1679.
             ]
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             And
             does
             not
             the
             Church
             of
             England
             with
             her
             
               Penal
               Laws
            
             come
             upon
             you
             and
             your
             Brethren
             with
             the
             same
             severities
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             Pray
             where
             is
             a
             Church
             better
             seen
             than
             in
             her
             Articles
             and
             Canons
             ?
             And
             if
             these
             are
             to
             be
             looked
             upon
             as
             the
             Standards
             of
             her
             Doctrin
             ;
             to
             give
             the
             Church
             of
             England
             her
             due
             ,
             she
             in
             her
             66.
             
             Canon
             requires
             her
             Bishops
             and
             Ministers
             to
             endeavor
             by
             instruction
             and
             perswasion
             to
             reclaim
             all
             Recusants
             within
             their
             respective
             limits
             :
             and
             if
             some
             of
             her
             Communion
             ,
             did
             put
             the
             Laws
             in
             Execution
             against
             us
             with
             too
             much
             rigour
             ;
             the
             present
             promotion
             of
             several
             of
             those
             Instruments
             of
             our
             Miseries
             ,
             wou'd
             tempt
             a
             man
             to
             believe
             ,
             that
             what
             they
             did
             was
             not
             so
             much
             out
             of
             mistak●
             ,
             as
             by
             order
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             But
             now
             you
             have
             a
             Commission
             to
             enquire
             ,
             into
             what
             money
             was
             taken
             from
             you
             upon
             the
             account
             of
             your
             Religion
             ;
             and
             so
             in
             some
             measure
             you
             may
             make
             your selves
             whole
             again
             .
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             Prithee
             Harry
             ,
             why
             dost
             not
             send
             us
             to
             the
             Spanish
             Wrack
             to
             dive
             for
             Gold
             and
             Silver
             ?
             on
             my
             conscience
             I
             believe
             it
             wou'd
             be
             to
             as
             much
             purpose
             .
             If
             you
             will
             procure
             us
             all
             that
             was
             returned
             into
             the
             Exchequer
             ,
             that
             will
             indeed
             encourage
             and
             enable
             us
             to
             sue
             for
             the
             rest
             ;
             and
             surely
             you
             do
             not
             think
             that
             the
             Exchequer
             ought
             to
             thrive
             by
             oppression
             no
             more
             than
             a
             private
             Gentleman's
             pocket
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             If
             you
             consent
             to
             take
             off
             the
             Tests
             ,
             you
             do
             not
             know
             what
             may
             be
             done
             for
             you
             ;
             and
             methinks
             you
             of
             all
             people
             shou'd
             be
             ready
             to
             comply
             ,
             since
             you
             are
             so
             much
             obliged
             for
             the
             Toleration
             :
             and
             you
             know
             one
             good
             turn
             always
             requires
             another
             .
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             Suppose
             the
             Church
             of
             England
             men
             had
             complied
             to
             take
             off
             the
             Tests
             ,
             dost
             think
             then
             we
             shou'd
             have
             been
             such
             Favourites
             ?
             I
             find
             it
             was
             our
             turn
             to
             be
             asked
             last
             :
             we
             have
             somthing
             of
             
               Original
               sin
            
             that
             still
             sticks
             to
             us
             ;
             and
             I
             am
             afraid
             when
             Popery
             comes
             in
             ,
             we
             that
             have
             
               no
               
               foundation
            
             ,
             and
             are
             as
             it
             were
             strangers
             in
             the
             land
             ,
             must
             expect
             that
             this
             Liberty
             will
             onely
             encrease
             our
             future
             risk
             ,
             and
             put
             us
             further
             into
             the
             house
             of
             bondage
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             You
             shall
             have
             a
             
               Magna
               Charta
            
             for
             Liberty
             of
             Conscience
             ;
             and
             that
             you
             know
             ,
             is
             like
             the
             Laws
             of
             the
             M●des
             and
             Persians
             ,
             unalterable
             .
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             I
             must
             be
             a
             fool
             by
             thy
             own
             Maxim
             ,
             if
             I
             believe
             thee
             ;
             for
             have
             not
             you
             said
             in
             your
             Pacquet
             ,
             that
             he
             is
             only
             fit
             to
             be
             
               Recorder
               of
            
             Goatham
             ,
             
               who
               does
               not
               foresee
               thát
               if
               ever
               the
            
             Papists
             prevail
             ,
             Magna
             Charta
             
               and
               the
            
             Bible
             
               must
               down
               together
               .
               [
               Pacq.
            
             Nov.
             21.
             1679.
             ]
             But
             now
             I
             think
             on
             't
             ,
             how
             will
             this
             
               Magna
               Charta
            
             ,
             and
             the
             
               Magna
               Charta
            
             of
             the
             Council
             of
             Lateran
             stand
             together
             ?
             which
             is
             so
             far
             from
             giving
             
               Liberty
               of
               Conscience
            
             ,
             that
             it
             will
             not
             allow
             Hereticks
             the
             common
             priviledge
             of
             living
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Has
             not
             Sir
             Roger
             cleared
             that
             difficulty
             sufficiently
             ?
             when
             he
             told
             you
             ,
             
               that
               when
               they
               are
               rightly
               distinguished
               ,
               they
               may
               very
               well
               stand
               together
               ;
               for
               the
               Decrees
               of
               the
               Church
               of
            
             Rome
             
               are
               Religious
               ,
               this
               Liberty
               you
               are
               offered
               is
               a
               civil
               point
               .
            
             [
             Answ.
             to
             the
             Letter
             to
             Dissenters
             .
             p.
             7.
             ]
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             Well
             now
             I
             find
             true
             ,
             what
             I
             always
             suspected
             ;
             that
             this
             Liberty
             was
             grounded
             upon
             a
             trick
             of
             state
             ;
             and
             not
             upon
             a
             Religious
             conviction
             of
             Judgment
             .
             So
             that
             when
             the
             Government
             shall
             not
             stand
             in
             need
             of
             such
             Arts
             ;
             that
             is
             ,
             when
             Popery
             is
             too
             powerful
             to
             submit
             to
             such
             condescensions
             ;
             we
             must
             expect
             to
             be
             thrown
             off
             ,
             and
             sink
             again
             into
             the
             state
             of
             suffering
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             I
             do
             assure
             you
             ,
             it
             has
             been
             the
             constant
             judgment
             of
             Papists
             ,
             that
             men
             all
             ought
             to
             have
             
               Liberty
               of
               Conscience
            
             :
             and
             they
             are
             very
             ill
             men
             ,
             and
             you
             ought
             not
             to
             joyn
             with
             them
             who
             wou'd
             perswade
             you
             to
             the
             contrary
             .
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             
               Divide
               &
               impera
            
             ,
             I
             know
             is
             the
             
             Papist's
             rule
             ,
             as
             well
             as
             the
             
             Politician's
             .
             Prithee
             Harry
             ,
             he
             that
             is
             but
             Eight
             and
             twenty
             years
             old
             ,
             has
             lived
             long
             enough
             to
             see
             their
             methods
             of
             destroying
             the
             
               Protestant
               Religion
            
             :
             and
             it
             is
             mostly
             by
             playing
             fast
             and
             loose
             with
             the
             Dissenters
             .
             Sometimes
             the
             Dissenter
             is
             a
             Heretick
             and
             a
             Rebel
             ,
             and
             all
             the
             cry
             must
             be
             ,
             
               Crucifie
               him
               ,
               crucifie
               him
            
             ;
             at
             another
             time
             he
             is
             all
             innocence
             ,
             
               What
               harm
               has
               he
               done
               ?
               We
               'll
               release
               him
               and
               let
               him
               go
               .
            
             Thus
             by
             intermittent
             fits
             of
             ease
             and
             rigour
             ,
             they
             endeavour
             to
             shake
             and
             undermine
             that
             foundation
             ;
             against
             which
             their
             arguments
             have
             not
             strength
             to
             prevail
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             But
             this
             Indulgence
             was
             so
             frankly
             offered
             you
             ,
             that
             you
             cannot
             choose
             but
             make
             
               sutable
               returns
            
             for
             such
             unexpected
             civilities
             .
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             Proffered
             service
             in
             some
             case
             is
             not
             only
             unacceptable
             ,
             but
             nauseous
             ;
             for
             when
             all
             the
             Arguments
             of
             Reason
             and
             Religion
             could
             not
             prevail
             ;
             to
             find
             an
             
               unexpected
               fit
            
             of
             affection
             ,
             makes
             the
             kindness
             something
             suspicious
             ,
             and
             all
             the
             endearing
             expressions
             may
             proceed
             not
             so
             much
             from
             Love
             ,
             as
             Dissimulation
             ;
             a
             politick
             design
             may
             be
             in
             the
             bottom
             ,
             and
             a
             snake
             may
             lie
             in
             the
             grass
             that
             looks
             so
             fresh
             and
             flourishing
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             I
             find
             you
             still
             continue
             in
             your
             groundless
             suspicion
             of
             the
             Papists
             :
             methinks
             they
             are
             the
             most
             reasonable
             men
             alive
             ;
             for
             if
             they
             do
             repeal
             your
             Laws
             ,
             they
             promise
             you
             
               Equipollent
               securities
            
             .
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             I
             must
             tell
             you
             Harry
             ,
             the
             Papists
             are
             the
             worst
             men
             in
             the
             world
             to
             pretend
             to
             insure
             the
             Protestant
             Religion
             from
             Fire
             and
             Faggot
             :
             their
             love
             to
             Hereticks
             ,
             we
             know
             ,
             is
             generally
             hot
             and
             flameing
             ,
             and
             't
             is
             rarely
             that
             any
             of
             them
             vouchsafes
             to
             kiss
             ,
             but
             when
             't
             is
             to
             bring
             in
             others
             that
             come
             with
             
               Swords
               and
               Staves
            
             .
             And
             what
             is
             this
             Equipollent
             security
             to
             be
             ?
             an
             Act
             of
             Parliament
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Yes
             ,
             but
             such
             an
             Act
             that
             shall
             be
             unalterable
             ,
             and
             not
             in
             the
             power
             of
             future
             ages
             to
             revoke
             .
          
        
         
           
             Dissenter
             ,
          
           
             Hold
             ,
             not
             too
             fast
             there
             ,
             you
             will
             ruine
             the
             
               Dispensing
               power
            
             else
             ;
             for
             if
             the
             King
             may
             not
             
               suspend
               that
               Act
               too
            
             at
             pleasure
             ,
             what
             will
             become
             of
             those
             Officers
             ,
             who
             have
             made
             so
             bold
             with
             the
             Laws
             in
             being
             ?
             for
             the
             consequence
             must
             reach
             all
             Acts
             alike
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Ay
             ,
             but
             these
             Tests
             are
             in
             their
             nature
             unjust
             ,
             and
             dangerous
             to
             the
             government
             in
             their
             consequence
             ;
             and
             so
             no
             matter
             what
             becomes
             of
             them
             .
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             And
             will
             not
             
               that
               Law
            
             ,
             think
             you
             ,
             be
             unjust
             ,
             which
             cramps
             the
             King
             's
             natural
             and
             inherent
             right
             of
             suspending
             Acts
             of
             Parliament
             ?
             so
             that
             
               this
               Law
            
             or
             the
             mighty
             Prerogative
             of
             suspending
             immediatly
             falls
             to
             the
             ground
             :
             and
             which
             do
             you
             think
             will
             most
             likely
             get
             the
             better
             on
             't
             ?
             Besides
             that
             Law
             ,
             if
             it
             be
             equipollent
             ,
             must
             exclude
             all
             
               Romish
               Priests
            
             from
             Officiating
             in
             any
             publick
             Church
             or
             Chappel
             within
             the
             Kingdom
             :
             Now
             if
             it
             be
             ,
             according
             to
             you
             ,
             so
             impious
             to
             exclude
             Papists
             from
             serving
             the
             King
             in
             
               publick
               Offices
            
             ;
             what
             a
             monstrous
             piece
             of
             impiety
             will
             Popish
             Judges
             interpret
             that
             Law
             to
             be
             ,
             
             which
             excludes
             the
             Priests
             from
             serving
             God
             in
             his
             
               publick
               Worship
            
             ?
             and
             therefore
             the
             apparent
             consequence
             of
             repealing
             our
             Laws
             to
             me
             will
             be
             this
             ;
             that
             hereafter
             we
             shall
             have
             all
             Popish
             Governours
             both
             in
             Church
             and
             State
             ;
             and
             to
             us
             will
             be
             left
             the
             Merit
             of
             obedience
             ,
             and
             the
             Glory
             of
             suffering
             ;
             onely
             I
             am
             afraid
             we
             shall
             much
             Eclipse
             that
             Glory
             ,
             upon
             some
             melancholy
             considerations
             that
             we
             have
             had
             a
             hand
             in
             our
             
               own
               execution
            
             .
          
        
         
           
             Har.
             
          
           
             Well
             I
             perceive
             you
             will
             not
             give
             me
             a
             Categorical
             answer
             to
             my
             Question
             .
             You
             will
             have
             the
             same
             more
             formally
             put
             to
             you
             ere
             long
             ,
             and
             I
             do
             not
             doubt
             when
             you
             have
             taken
             time
             to
             consider
             ,
             but
             you
             will
             return
             a
             very
             satisfactory
             answer
             .
          
        
         
           
             Diss.
             
          
           
             To
             be
             short
             with
             you
             then
             ;
             the
             sum
             of
             my
             opinion
             is
             this
             :
             That
             I
             consider
             my self
             as
             an
             Englishman
             as
             well
             as
             a
             Protestant
             ;
             and
             whatever
             I
             conceive
             may
             directly
             or
             by
             consequence
             prejudice
             my
             Religion
             ,
             or
             
               Civil
               Rights
            
             ,
             I
             think
             my self
             obliged
             not
             to
             consent
             to
             it
             ,
             as
             I
             am
             to
             answer
             it
             to
             GOD
             and
             my
             COUNTRY
             .
             
               So
               farewel
            
             .
          
        
      
    
     
       
         
           OXFORD
           :
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           in
           the
           Year
           1688.